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simple. people who supported phil were saying his anti-gay statements were related to his passion for the bible. and then suddenly a&e was being seen as anti-christian. and that was a very difficult place for a&e to be. and that is what likely motivated their decision to lift the suspension yesterday. >> and then i wonder, was a&e a straight shooter in all of this? because a&e had this indefinite suspension. and then as i understand on christmas day, they had a "duck dynasty" marathon and phil robertson was in just about every episode. was a&e really setting up to do anything by having this indefinite suspension if he was still going to be on the air? >> you've got to remember, fredericka, this is a&e's biggest show by far. we put it on the cover of "us weekly" and it sells extremely well. there's merchandise in walmart.