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out? >> just forget -- putting the merits aside politically, the obama years have been a tale of two electorates, the midterm and the presidential. in '08 and 2012, the presidential year, he had a huge surge of young voters, non-white voters that helped him win re-election and win his initial election. he needs some issues to sort of make the 2014 electorate a little more like the 2012 electorate. this is a good issue to do that. >> although there is concern among democrats that republicans might let it happen and stand back as i think they did in '96, right? >> there was -- >> late '80s minimum wage raise. >> republicans did not stand against it. they kind of let it happen. >> it was a bigger deal. president clinton was trying to move to the middle and they balanced the budget, they lowered taxes. >> there was a negotiation. the business community got something. >> that's right. >> labor -- >> you won't see that with this republican party. i don't think so. >> thank you for being here. coming up, if your kid has