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but no, his example is i will change the city in new york and rich people will not pay more than a small soy latte. you know how hard it is for those of us in the business of trying to characterize liberal to have somebody jump you will and say soy latte. how do you ridicule somebody who already says -- >> in manhattan, he has serious decisions to make. >> but let me ask you a program question -- is there a single red state democratic senator up for reelection who could embrace soy latte liberalism without getting defeated? >> well, he's the mayor of new york, so of course he's going to have a different tony and use different imagery than mary landrieu. that's just as true for republicans as it is for democrats. look, i think bill deblasio provides an opportunity to talk about some of this is issues, which by the way, people also