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it's a public holiday that normally traditionally celebrates the defeat of nazi, germany, but has taken on a much wider significant importance in celebrating russia's military glory and military might in a much more general sense. >> phil, thank you. hard to imagine more brutality than what we've seen, but i suppose it is possible. there was a face-to-face meeting between austria's chancellor and russian president vladimir putin today in moscow. nic, what are you learning about that? >> well, the austrian chancellor's office is saying it was not a friendly visit, that it was direct, it was open, and it was tough. we knew from the austrian chancellor, from the austrian foreign minister, rather, that when the chancellor went in, he was going to look putin in the eye go eye-to-eye with him, tell putin he'd lost the moral war that, you know, that he was