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if they were vaccinated, and, therefore, we have this massive surge that we're seeing. the biden administration really needs to look at the realities on the ground and see that we have a situation with the delta variant that is now dominant in the country. the delta variant results in a person who is infected 1,000 times the viral load compared to previous variants. we don't actually know if somebody who is fully vaccinated but has a breakthrough infection with the delta variant, are they able to transmit it to others? would that be kind of lack of knowledge? >> right. because the cdc doesn't track these breakthrough cases, right? >> that's exactly right. we really don't know how many mild breakthrough infections there are, and that's really important to give people the expectation. are we talking about 1 in 100 or 1 in 2? we don't know what is happening. we really don't know, for those of us who are parents of unvaccinated children, what if we are asymptomatic and we are protected ourselves, but are we able to transmit it to our