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what makes a difference when it comes to the vaccine, not someone's idea about fda approval when there's no research or facts to back it up. so maybe 49% believe that, but what they are believing is not actually the truth, and our job is to tell people the truth about the vaccine. >> the truth is nothing gets fda approval without efficacy. >> that's not true. >> you can't get fda approval if you can't show that is vaccine is effective. >> well, you can get the emergency authorization. >> that's not approval. that is an eua. >> that is emergency use authorization. that is what i just said to you a minute ago. >> don, your ability to speak is great. your ability to listen is -- you must listen as well. >> yes, okay. >> efficacy is db.