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this and more, chief medical adviser to president biden, dr. anthony fauci. thank you for joining us today. one model projects if we do not improve the vaccination rate, cases could rise and the u.s. could see a tripling of the current daily death toll, by mid-october. worst case scenario in this modeling, that number could climb as high as 4,000 deaths a day, about as bad as it was last winter. do you think it's possible it could get that bad, 4,000 deaths a day? >> well, when they do modeling, jake, they generally give you the worst case scenario and the best case scenario, but somewhere in the middle, if you look historically at the modeling that has been done over the last 18 months, for the most part, it's been pretty accurate. so i'm not sure it would be the worst case scenario, but it's