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a fairy tale that people tell themselves. so we wanted to take a look at its, it's an important moment and also a lot of the domestic issues that we think about and talk about even today immigration, inflation are tied to foreign issues. so we were focused on that going in your instrumental in getting these to cover stories done. if he wins with trump there on the left, if he wins with biden there on the right, i'm obviously not going to ask you who you're going to vote for, but give us your measure of the man at this point in time how we're going to have a debate obviously on june 27th you saw them both up close and personal. what should viewers of the debate on june 27th expect yeah, it's interesting they're obviously very, very different people. >> one of the reasons again, why we wanted to focus on foreign policy is arguably, there have never been two more different positions on american