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outfront legal expertise with me now. so you here, you know, he was in the courtroom today, so we heard that audio. he saw the jury's reaction to that so you also heard that him talking about the one juror who was tearing up, right? obviously, people have personal connection chins to issues like addiction. >> so how do you think that plays with the jury hearing his own words, reading a book which they could read excerpts are so excerpts, but hearing him, i think it can be very powerful. >> so just to take an example of the recent case in manhattan what the prosecutors they were able to do is actually play an audio of the defendant donald trump. that's very powerful. and to also speak about or have somebody read from donald trump's prior books. this is even better than that because the prosecutors actually have the defendant and his own voice and it sounds like therefore, an audio recording of the defendants. so it's one step below having the defendant take the stand, which prosecutors like, but they're presenting the defendant and therefore, the jury hearing him actually talk about his own addiction, which is an element of the crime, which of course, in the book is also where he admits to