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it's about five deaths per 100 100,000. the countries that have similar rates to us, a new zealand records about 14. chile records about 14 deaths per 100,000. but here in the united states, we have the highest rate at 22 deaths per 100,000 births. and kate black women are the most impacted when it comes to maternal mortality in the us, when you look at black women alone, the rate is 50 deaths per 100,000. so we know everywhere in the world, kate, every two minutes, a woman dies due to pregnancy or childbirth birth anywhere in the world. but when you look at where we stand in the united states and how we compare with other high-income nations. >> it's disturbing to see these kinds of disparities and to see these high rates of deaths, and it really shows that we can do more with supporting lemon during pregnancy, supporting them during childbirth providing the level of care that's really needed out there, kate, i mean, when you think about amongst