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that, but added there is every reason for people to draw that conclusion. now this interview notably was conducted one day before president biden outlined the broad contours of that israeli proposal. a three-phase proposal that could lead to a ceasefire and secure the release of hostages. i'm actually told national security adviser jake sullivan this morning here at the white house, will be meeting with the families of the american hostages still being held in gaza. but this all comes as president biden is urging israel, urging netanyahu to put an end to this war. he says that hamas, their capabilities to conduct another large scale october 7 style attack have largely been degraded because of israel's efforts. and so he's encouraged and pushed the israelis to work towards some type of deal to secure the end of this war and also secure the release of hostages. of course, the white house has said that they are waiting for hamas to respond to that proposal. >> and really quickly that's deaths president biden speaking about israeli prime minister