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essentially saying that they were wrong for what they did. and another point on what lauren was talking about regarding the people being held, those people are very small number of the hundreds of convicted people who have been convicted in january 6 cases. and they are largely the people who are in jail. they are largely violent offenders. they receive extremely long sentences, longer than they're being held pretrial. >> so what is being said about january 6 on capitol hill often is just not the case. >> in court. >> okay. lauren box, katelyn polantz. thank you. both very much for all this reporting. we're going to continue to monitor this hearing that as you can see, is beginning. we'll be watching it throughout the hour. we'll bring you the attorney general's opening statements when he begins speaking. >> okay. also happening right now, opening statements in the trial of hunter biden and we just learned that one juror has been dismissed, will bring you the latest from there birth.