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supplying weapons to ukraine is a dangerous step. >> he says, any country that does so as quote directly involved in war against russia. what do you think putin would actually do to retaliate against the u.s. or do you think this is just bluster? >> well, i believe is just bluster. >> briana. i have not kept track of mr. putin's the number of times mr. putin has said this is going to cause some kind of catastrophic effect, and he's implying the use of either tactical or strategic nuclear weapons. but he has been saying this for the past two plus years. so i think the biden striation realize that it's a bluff and it's a bluster and he won't do that because he knows what might happen if he does. so i think it is continuing bluster and it's the very fact that he is now become increasingly a war criminal based on the kinds of tactics that he's using and going after ukrainian infrastructure and ukrainian civilians. i think mr. putin is trying to put up a veil of domination and it's not working very well. >> it was such a moving