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civilians out of the battlespace before for conducting significant maneuver. and i don't think accomplishing objectives and protecting civilians are mutually exclusive endeavors. i think you can do both. we've demonstrated that i think you have to do that. i think that the way that you ensure long-term access is by making sure that you take the other civilian population, strip them away, eventually stripped them away from hamas. and demonstrate that hamas does not equal the palestinian people. but we have to, they have to take care of the palestinian people, flow more aid humanitarian aid into the space and make sure that we're doing the right things to take care of them as you know, mr. secretary, when it comes to rafah in southern gaza president and biden told cnn in an interview, he won't supply the weapons to israel if israel goes into rafah. >> now israeli troops are in