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oraa ring i've hanako montgomery in tokyo and this is cnn we have no reporting today from cnn's isaac dovere on president biden's campaign making its biggest play yet for anti-trump republican voters we've learned that adam kinzinger, former chief of staff, austin, whether weatherford has been hired to lead republican outreach efforts for the biden campaign. now it's part of a larger effort to try to win over gop voters who don't like donald trump, but they are skeptical about voting for democrat. my panel is back and laura, you also have done reporting on this for pbs. what are you hearing? >> well, last week, they held a call, actually the day before the verdict came out in donald trump's new york case, and the biden campaign spoke to a number of former republican