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>> she is conducted this case is wildly totally crazily unusual. and the allowing of outsiders to participate in a de and a half hearing that most judges would decide on briefs or may let me give ten minutes aside to argue is just a another illustration that she is trying to kill this prosecution. that's the only conclusion you can draw. no other judge in the federal system that i'm aware of would treat these issues anything like what she's trying to do, judge gertner, i mean, you've been critical of judge cannon's handling this case quite some time. what do you make of her opening up the debate over jack smith's authority to some of trump's outside allies well, let's step back. >> what she's effectively doing is taking a number of the only way to describe them or maga, arguments, arguments about selective vindictive prosecution in this case arguments about the special