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reasons he needed mike pence was to shore up his support among white evangelicals and tap somebody vouch for him which mike pence did he doesn't really need that anymore, does he he doesn't need that anymore. >> i mean, mike pence serve to really critical functions. i don't think that mike pence convinced people who were skeptical of trump's character to vote for him. but i do think that it eased some uneasy consciousness of people they knew that they could trust mike pence, a lady who taught me sunday school when i was a kid lambasted me after i criticized trump, after access hollywood. and the reason she gave is look at his vice presidential candidate is such a godly man. so it helped some people to work through the question of, am i really voting for donald trump? i don't think any of those people would have voted for hillary clinton, but it helped them along the second thing was that mike pence understood and knew the ev