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ask the appeals court to take the case. the trial court judge specified, while you all are doing that, i'm going to continue holding proceedings in this trial court. and now today, just a couple of hours ago, the appeals court said, no, no, no pause. that too. so that tells me that they're taking this appeal very seriously. and if trump in the defendants prevail and just peel, this case is essentially that you're talking about, judge mcafee. he was still ruling on some pretrial motions going ahead with things. all of that is now frozen. and i mean, we're not even going to get the decision on the appeals court until next spring. >> yeah. we won't. >> but i think it's the right call and let me tell you why i'm a firm believer that you have to have confidence in our institutions and appeals are part of that process. i think there are many people who took issue with mcafee is decision, however well-reasoned to 23 pages war we're not i think there are people who felt that there was an actual conflict of interests, not just a perceived conflict, and maybe took issue with his remedy as well. what remy yet, the special counsel off the case and you're fine proceed. nathan wade, i'm