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before lyndon johnson's policies, there was more of black families united, united the marriage rate in black america was significantly higher before the great society well, that's true. marriage rates frankly have dropped since jim crow ended, but rates have actually dropped for all races since 1970. >> during me now, derrick johnson president of the end nwa cp. >> derrick johnson thank you so much for being here today. now, of course i can tell you this is not the first time we've heard a playbook about trying to appeal to black voters by talking and attacking the black family unit to suggest that it's a fractured population among what's not a monolith are you surprised this is a particular vehicle of choice for this congressman? >> well, he comes from a long line of grifter black people drifting on their race for self-benefit there's a book written about it. you have two lines of black republicans. you have douglas republicans who