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unusual, and the allowing of outsiders to participate in a de and-a-half hearing that most judges would decide on briefs or maybe he give ten minutes aside to argue, is just a another illustration that she is trying to kill this prosecution. that's the only conclusion you can draw. no other judge in the federal system that i'm aware of would treat these issues, anything like what she's gonna do, judge gardner, i mean, you've been critical of judge cannon's handling in this case required quite some time what he make of her opening up the debate over jack smith's authority to some of trump's outside allies well, let's step back. >> what she's effectively doing is taking a number of the only way to describe them or maga, arguments, arguments about selective vindictive prosecution in this case arguments about the special prosecutor legitimizing them by giving them a hearing time as jeff was describing, which is