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filling out this form maybe on a particular de on which he filed that he wasn't actually on drugs, might have only been an alcoholic, really trying to thread the proverbial needle? yes. >> could that succeed? >> it could succeed for a couple of the charges because the ideas that he's not knowingly making a false statement because he thinks the form is asking him right at this moment, are you using drugs? so maybe he's thinking, oh, they want to know, amount of sound mind that i can sign this form. that's the argument right. >> and then the other one is that he doesn't necessarily know who is an addict at the time. so that's to the arguments. they're trying to say. look, the prosecution bears the burden beyond a reasonable doubt they're tied to prevent a prime to propose. >> i'm sorry, reasonable doubt. all right. now so we caisson i mentioned her. she was a crucial witness for the prosecution. she testified she saw hunter smoking crack a lot over several days in september 2018. of course, that's around with the gun was purchased and that she got a text message from hunter saying, quote, i'll always be an addict but then when it came down to what she said, well, she's not sure what he was doing in october when the gun was bought so what