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starting their how meaningful is this ruling? >> i think is meaningful. i had to the extent that it reflects two things. one that the appellate court is going to take, it's time to get this right. and to that it cannot believe in taking this action that the appeal by trump's lawyers is frivolous. >> now, keep in mind that judge mcafee did find that the appearance of impropriety required a solution, and he fashioned that solute and really out of whole cloth without much guidance because this is an unprecedented said actuation and concluded that it was adequate for mr. wade to step down, but that ms willis could carry on yeah, that's it. there's nothing in the law that dictates that, and there's some question in a law whether that's sufficient to cure the appearance of impropriety. >> so tau so when asked you