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equal in the sense that they were both repressive tyrannies and e. wanted to make sure that the world was basically free of those. and that's why he made the remarks that he did. >> isaac dovere at you, of course, have covered a president biden a day in and day out as president of the united states. what does this day, this moment mean for him? >> like he, he has said that through his time running and starting out in january of this year when he gave that speech, valley forge, that he sees preserving i can see as the work of his presidency. and here he is, as i think it's fair to say, likely the last president who will have been alive during d-day, right? who grew up in that world and stephen was saying that was built by these soldiers and those leaders trying to defend it and trying to say this is the world that we should keep living in. it is to him, not an issue of politics per say, although of course it is being litigated in the 2024 campaign.