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today, the ukrainians certainly view themselves as fighting for their lives and for the existence of their country. and when you speak to eastern europeans, in particular they see the war in ukraine as defining that if russia is allowed to win, there than it doesn't end there again, a test like the world saw in 1939 and 1941 and 1944, that hitler at the time when he started moving east, he didn't stop. he can kept going and the fear in eastern europe is that putin will do the same and that he will take western exhaustion with this war western delays in providing aid to ukraine as a signal that well, he might be able to get away with this again. and by the way, we don't have to look back to 80 years ago go to get those lessons. you look at the russian invasion of georgia in 2008, russia's first invasion of ukraine in 2014. and of