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no way for the america who is a shining city on a hill that reagan talked about on the on the shoulders of what fdr talked about. that is not the america that we need donald trump's and isolationists joe biden understands america's place in the world and that if we're not there, the preservation of democracy and freedom both abroad and at home is going to be at risk what's at stake in this election? biden made a direct comparison between world war ii today and the war in ukraine, saying we know the dark forces that these heroes fought against 80 years ago. they never fade. >> do you think that's going to be a driving message in the biden campaign in the coming months well, i think democracy and freedom are driving message. and again america has always been that indispensable nation. today. mitch mcconnell actually parotid the president's talk because mitch conille understands this as well. all do some other mainstream republicans. but you may recall that when the president was trying to get funding from ukraine, they'll whole bunch of very, very conservative maga folks held up the funding for ukraine. donald trump said he wants to decimate nato. those are the barriers