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city on a hill that reagan talked about? on the shoulders of what fdr talked about. that is not the america that we need donald trump's and isolationists. joe biden understands america's place in the world and that if we're not there, the preservation of democracy and freedom both abroad and at home is gonna be at risk. what's at stake in this election? biden made a direct comparison between world war ii today and the war in ukraine we know the dark forces that these heroes fought against 80 years ago. they never fade do you think that's going to be a driving message in the biden campaign in the coming months. >> well, i think democracy and freedom are driving message. and again, america has always been an indispensable nation today, mitch mcconnell actually parotid the president's talk because mitch mcconnell understands this as well. i'll do some other mainstream republicans, but you may recall that when the president was trying to get funding from ukraine, they'll whole bunch of very, very conservative maga folks held up the funding for ukraine, donald trump said he wants to decimate nato. those are the best areas between us