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when other members of the biden family testify a sources have said that the defense could potentially call her granddaughter, naomi biden up to the witness stand. and what the first lady's office has stressed to me is that she wanted to ensure she could be at this trial as much as humanly possible. her communications director elizabeth alexander told me last night, it's something that a lot of parents and maybe mothers, especially feel that when your children need you, it doesn't matter how old they get there. always your children and you always want to be there to support them. i think what this also all shows is how central she is to the president and his it's family. the president has often referred to her as the glue of the family. that is something that you're seeing play out as she continues to maintain this continued presence at this trial of their only living sudden and incredible balance is especially with an entire ocean in-between those commitments are, i'll let signs really appreciate it. thank you. >> okay an off-duty nurse and