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rules-based international order that served us so well for so many years. and we ought to protect that we have to work hard to protect democracy is worth, worth having. but it's something that you have to, you have to work on. you have to fight for which is absolutely true on russia's war in ukraine right now, mr. secretary, president biden just said that putin is, and i'm quoting him now, is not a decent man. >> he's a dictator when defending his decision to let ukraine strike russian territory with us weapons only near kharkiv not far from the border with russia. what is the red line in ukraine right now? how far is the us willing to go in letting kyiv strike deeper into russia with us weapons when deemed necessary. >> well, if our policy using long-range strike a weaponry to go into russia as hasn't changed but what we have done