important question, because trump has, ever since that day, that press conference, defended michael flynn and repeatedly suggested that he did nothing wrong, even in the face of all of this talk about the risks of blackmail. there's that problem. i think in general on the collusion question, the folks who are looking at this situation fairly need to be more comfortable with the idea that we don't know what the answer to the collusion question is. it is not as the president says that there was no collusion. the answer is unsatisfyingly that we don't know. i think that's what james clapper and sally yates put out there was that there is no definitive yes or no answer to that right at this moment and even folks on the left i think need to be a little bit more comfortable. >> i think the democrats have gone beyond at least the public information and smft thinome of things they say. the president himself is a politician. i understand the idea that they