comments that may have seemed in conflict with what the -- he had sent the vice president out in particular. the white house counsel informed the president immediately. >> now, the immediately there is important to the question you raised early. the immediately if it's true matters there. again, gave us a heads up. sounds pretty casual. listen to sally yates. >> i had two in-person meetings and one phone call with the white house counsel about mr. flynn. we told them that we were giving them all of this information so that they could take action. the action that they deemed appropriate. i remember that mr. mcgann asked me whether or not general flynn should be fired and i told him that that really wasn't our call, that was up to them, but that we were giving them this information so that they could take action. >> that's not a heads up. a, it's a big deal when the attorney general goes to meet with the white house counsel about somebody on the white house staff who's under fib investigation. that is a big deal in its own