kennedy and hillary clinton on past of health information technology, and also tim murphy, a republican from pennsylvania. you may think why would newt do that? answer is simple. you want to get a message out in the news media and you put them together and patrick kennedy with gingrich, you will get huge press coverage. we sent a signal that we ought to have healthcare technology that you never could have done if you were a lobbyist. they said isn't that lobbying? no, it's a citizen. as a citizen i'm allowed to have an opinion. >> we have to take a break. more of my full hour interview with the former speaker of the house from the campaign trail. we are in greensville, south carolina, and hope you will stay with us.