many people will be subpoenaed. we'll see more resolution to that early in june. >> shepard: i felt like once this special counselor came in, some of this information in the public might dry up. is it your sense for a motivation behind these leaks, is it just to keep the public informed or what is it? >> i personally don't know what the motivation is. i know that oftentimes people have varying motivations. some people say to understand when something is going on. some people leak because they see wrong doing. some people leak because they want to be in the papers. i have no idea what these people were thinking when they chose to reach out to the press. >> shepard: thanks, kelsey. president trump coming face-to-face with members of the alliance he once called obsolete. he had a tough warning for nato. time to pay up. how that is playing out with our allies coming up. at red lobster's seafood trios