this is going to do to the deficit could be much higher, because everybody is saying we're just going to kick that individual tax cut thing down the road? >> yeah. not a secret. all of the tax cuts in these bills are going to be made permanent. just as the bush tax cuts from 2001 and 2003 were extended and made permanent. these are not -- this is understood. we had to fit this in to the senate rules, which are silly, but there are senate rules, and so to get the bill passed live within the little box invented. the individual rates will be permanent, going to expensing permanent, tax credit for dependents made permanent. so disingenuous left wing groups go, oh, don't look at the numbers until 2027 when some of these things disappear and then say, look at that. we'll never get there. >> i don't do that. >> no, you don't, but the guys
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