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is real. i'm listening. >> yeah, figuring out what is real is not so easy. >> right. >> and, you know, most people don't want to turn to brian steltzer to tell us what's real >> greg: there's that laugh again worse than yours kat. he gigled like a guy accidentally walked in on him in the changing room of old navy. i've been there. how i meet people. i never expected i would ever feel sorry for brian, usually i feel sorry for his office chair. oh, well, why did wolff bother going on cnn a few times this week anyway. >> well then why did you bother coming on cnn a few times this week? ha ha. >> you know, i'm a book salesman. >> michael, i love talking to you, i'm grateful you came on, i guess let's do it again in four