rates for an advanced capitalist nation. no. >> we certainly do. >> bill: look. advanced capitalist nation. is holland a capitalist nation, sir? is it? >> europe is a capitalist. >> bill: no it is not. it's quasisocialism where they do cradle to the grave entitlements. playing with all due respect. you are playing a game. cradle to gave entitle entitlements what the western union is this is a much more competitive capitalistic society. i will give you the last word. you are using the catholic religion to justify the quasisocialist european model that you want. i don't think that's good. i don't think that's honest. now, i'm going to give each of you 30 seconds to make last statements. dr. miller, you go. >> the catholic position is that the market is important and it helps serve society.