Transcripts For RT Documentary 20240713
Victims to skate unarmed but how cold this is 2 year old daughter cynthia died in the fire. You. Know what a goal from Village Apartments from columbus grove. Joy the fire started. And where my life ended. I havent been in others place. In. July in 1907 as a prima fascia 1st time back the. Long haul feel about the city and i guess. They are Old Farm Village apartment. And go. National one of was on fire. Well form Village Apartment was put in much. Of the low income if you had money you know welfare could pick you up and stop the. Complex at avis. Everybody would. Be drinking and getting their own. Nursery. See the balcony. Now how is anybody going to climb up with a broken hand and a cash to. Carry and to continue nose gasoline and paint and drunk oh their mind is impossible cant be done. On july 29th 1986 there was a party at the Old Farm Village apartment complex at the time kenny was suffering from depression and drinking a lot that night was no exception. And about 2 oclock noon. On the monk the mother slim chance until she was. Getting high. A couple a couple ads stopped by friends of. God they were them and she said yeah. Maybe so. She came downstairs and measure was passing me. And whats good he told me. And shook my head. At the trial collins claim that ricci had agreed to babysit her daughter while she was away. Allegedly in exchange for letting him crash on her sofa that night however neighbors saw him fall into the bushes and passing out soon afterwords. Passed over there where no one. In the bush. And when he woke up. I went to my arm and. Pulled him up on. My part much in the back. And then you went over here just to see was going on. Came from the other side. How big was the fire. You can see a lot of smoke and flames. Next thing. The body gets into your cones. All and pretty straight to see a little girl like that. And were heading out and like dreams about what happened about seeing fear i mean where you sleep some bad dreams. No. No not a bother. We better get going. Bro. How you doing. So youre at the house. You know which allowed. To bloody hard then. You are. The ones who are you know. 2002 years 8 years in my name is Steven Ritchie and im cammies youngest brother how did we get along. Good i mean. When we were younger i looked up to him you know theres a you know its. 1213 you know i look up to me and i really. Know him for 21 years and. One really is much of a relationship is in prison and so is mine you know our relationship was no phone calls and that was a. Concern about richie calling on his condition trial was pretty much a farce they are had him guilty for that trial started a murder trial and it takes 3 judges 45 minutes to. Go to some guy hes guilty. You know the Death Penalty. The ohio cord was stole that came into could vanish of the sack at the neighboring apartment had been left with only the 2 year old victim inside it was alleged that his intention was for the fire to spread to the lower floor where hes exgirlfriend and her new boyfriend were sleeping the case relied on that just a moment as if people attending the party who stated under oath that ricci was strong and thats threatened to burn down the building. There was to be people its threaten to burn the building in some way. And torch a section. Going to a bowl and. 3 different variations of it. You know i was garbage. To the people for attractive statements people lie. And sometimes theres no explanation. Almost cost me my life so far as some of the evidence goes in the goes back to school back to the fire marshall. Marshall stated that kenny had poured gasoline on his not on the porch also. And was tracing the gash on the floor. If you please be seated. Almost 20 years later gaining his lores would prove that the investigation had been so long resulting in the wrong conclusions. There was a brand new porsche that was built. When the fire marshal stated that he didnt take chippings i do but charge port to ship wood chips for me brand new build. Dead. But he stated they were charred while crime lab screwed up and didnt do a. Test properly. Or didnt read them properly and that was. We had the best experts in the world take a look at it and said no this isnt all gasoline. And no false i wouldnt you want to present that and the judge just took it as trees fell you. Execute just one innocent person thats. Reason enough to have the Death Penalty and they just dont do that were going to. Going to either kill you. Know one. Of you match. You know im proud of stephen better put out. Stephen. For themself in a beautiful from like my shadow. And the jail which. Says you have a brother to live in around where you can go to use a place to stay for a while until you get to. Hes never offered gentle. Amount to proud. Old years were stolen from you. Trying to make up for that get yourself a life together have tried. To be. Just when things go good. The rug pulled out from under. The bloody life. And dishonest still make jenny had no regular job or any kind of stable income. Is your media a reflection of reality. In a world transformed. What will make you feel safe. Isolation community. Are you going the right way or are you being led. Direct. What is true what is faith. In a world corrupted you need to descend. To join us in the depths. Aura made in the shallows. In the troubled 19 seventies a group of killers rampage through parts of Northern Ireland that was coordinated loyalists attacks particularly catholic population tens of thousands were forced to flee their homes come up with strike and put these attacks was a p. R. You see the Police Actually took part in the attacks so instead of preventing they were active participants in the burning of coal streets in belfast at the time more than a 100 innocent civilians were unloaded as the review can seniors and we found out more i was surprised about the extent and its occurrence which the solution was involved in some of those cases that killers would later be named. I think it went to the very very top i think it is. The water where politicians you walk on and give the go ahead. My name is all ramsey probably. Im working on here on this is called sanctuary for offers. Housing and restoration for at risk and Homeless Veterans they always have that. How you would be not a. Prison do you have a film that i talked to the most pleasurable once you get the stigma attached you know so that you know you know you know you know how much of a life left i meant to mr rich the. Life you know end of october. 2002 so roughly a year ago gave him a place to stay at least a roof or recite it and in exchange he would do menial tasks around the house during the day did he appreciate what ive done for him. To be honest id have to say you know he stopped paying me you know. You no longer paid me to 250. 00 a week in the form that i was paying the rent. You know utilities but i wasnt getting i wasnt getting any money. Its a meal be a problem you know told me to leave communication or arnold be skinny a place to live on condition that he get his act together and find a job to secure a steady income but that never happened in his case he drank extensively. And he. Was subject to drug use not only drug use but a lot of the also come along with that prostitution. And thats just not the way to renovate your life and get back on a positive path he had an opportunity to redeem his life he had an opportunity to raise. Years of imprisonment and even take full advantage of the opportunity i think to have kenny hasnt forgiven himself for something hes been and i said hey man make it right because its eating you alive youre just not happy with yourself. When it took me to most elm put me. In. Death row inmates or. Recognized by the red stripe down the side of the pants. Sure. But youre in there for execution and every time you walk in the corridors of the present theres a dead man walking dead man walking. Again he never admitted guilt and launched repeated appeals to have his case review his death sentence was postponed with each new submission but if one was refused any new data in town for the execution was scheduled over his 21 years in prison he was told on 13 different occasions the exact date and time when he would die as depression. Brings it down you know. It. Does something to you mentally. But i pray every deal another or another piece of me died i know that on one day the very for the call is. On drugs or not if you dont mind my life is full of bad memories. Dont need. Dont need to remember dont want to remember them. You see you. Do it here. As a legal duty most with the all to do charity. Leading you to. That mine is very good did you. Think it was so emotional because you know she loves me because so far away. She lost she lost me all those years ago and i always knew that he was innocent ive read the truth but nobody. Would prove that im wrong. Ive been down this road with him forever in almost 60 years now and i had to get to. Because it was. In the early 2000 because of a scotsman called Kenneth Ricci has been sentenced to death and the states began to attract Media Attention on both sides of the pond. They had a reporter or they contacted me wanting to talk to me and stuff and over to me the trying to court. Judge and. Prosecutor. You know i was innocent when the article came out and just went from there its like you know. Phone tag to me and then people started writing me. Due to. The proclaimers. Orders for a whole chunk all over the globe or ta while. You were going to go. On a stand on national came out. Publicly stated. My case was one of the most compelling cases a bit of power in emissions the human to human rights campaigners. Were seen. In 2000 someone jennies laurie schemes in agreement with the prosecutors. The arson and murder charges swore a plea bargain down to child endangerment. This was enough to secure richs release considering the amount of time he told what he spends in prison. Only one person in the courthouse Still Believes him can his guilt valerie pinkly. The victims. I have. Here. Tonight im going to face get through it but i want to know you want nobody you know. People who will. Know i never can take any confusion he loves kids. Who has children clearly he wouldnt. Be you know the idea why so many neighbors and other people who live. Here in the testimonies to give him a probably pissed off somewhere. Can you start asking me that the age old question about going to hell. Oh is there talk about am i going to go to hell for what happened cynthia collins. And i would tell him again for the millionth viewer to drop chilling member what happened and you didnt know the baby was there and i really believed that and he turned around. And in the most evil voice i had ever heard come out of his mouth with an accent. He goes. I knew she was there and i knew exactly what i was doing. My name is karen i am rich and i am the exwife. Of kenneth rich karen married gay mean do you think i was in a lot of it 3 years after he was finally released from prison. I had no idea what i was getting into i had no clue because i truly believed in his story about being incarcerated for 21 and a half years for a crime he didnt commit. And i thought ok ill play into your ego because i really wanted to know how the fire started and i thought how can i how can i ask this question how can i get this information from him without him. Lying to me i said because you are just so incredibly smart you outsmart them he goes because theyre a bunch of dumb asses like ok. Because it was easy because you take a lit cigarette it will come back to it in the book. Behind the couch and that i walk down the street 30 minutes later a place goes up in smoke and they cant connect me to the crime. I didnt expect that. I was just absolute shock. I am married to say. Himself. Shes a lawyer just give me. Something like. 3 years to come forward with it. Lets just. Try. She told me. Problem of cold cold cold didnt cope with me. Because i ran into it there are other spirits that decided to intervene and one was his father. And his father came to me in the middle of the night open my eyes same the same time and i. See this figure in the doorway. Shadow walk through the door around the bed. And right next to me again and. He said we need your help. I need you to tokay that hes been forgiven. And. He says we need your help to save his soul. The next night. I go to bed and i heard these footsteps. On the carpet running to the side of the bed. Of course i wake up and i looked and there was this little lying. Little same size as my right there. And im in shock and she said. I need to deliver a message. And. An easy to tell kenny that i forgive them. And forget. I said. Ok. To another look. At the spiritual experience. And i had the little girl that died in the fire cynthia collins. I have. Had very few of that kind of thing happen where you shake your core when youre around something so evil with Kenneth Richie that happened. Some of the bush people would normally also think. What call bush really nice at times im too nice a potion. But was about. As would be a lonely. Figure some of the story to. Get through to us. So i. Can give you a few beers doable. Child control the pain. Despite the claims of kenneth reaches exwife nicole and smirk ace was now reopened. Karen herself wanted us to make clear that she received no money for a given these interview. After their fall out with donald. Gainey was unable to find a new job and the lack of money man he had to move out of the rented apartment and back to his stand in the forest. One almost shows seem wrong. But old rules just dont hold. Any world yet to shape out is they can stick out to it and engage with it was betrayal. When so many find themselves worlds apart we choose to look for common ground. You know world big part of a lot of things and conspiracy its time to wake up to dig deeper to hit the stories that made stream media refuses to tell more than ever we need to be smarter we need to stop slamming the door on the bath shouting past each other its time for Critical Thinking its time to fight for the middle for the truth the time is now for watching closely watching the hawks. During the Great Depression which im old enough to remember there was most of my family were unemployed working class there wasnt it was bed you know much worse objective listen today but there was an expectation that things were going to get better. There was a real sense of hopefulness there isnt today todays america where shape by the turn principles of concentration of wealth and power. Reduced democracy at tax a loadout engineer elections manufacture consent and other principles according to no im chomsky one set of rules for the rich opposite set of rules for. 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