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My name is kenneth ritchie. 54 years old its been 21. 00 and a half years on death row and ohio. For a crime i didnt commit. A crime was arson. I would 2 year old child. Get f. T. Ricci who was tried in ohio for aggravated murder committed in the course of a fallacy. Evidence showing that respondent set fire and their partner enough hes neither collins in an attempt to kill his exgirlfriend and her new boyfriend who were spending the night together in the apartment below the intended victims to scape them harmed but how cold and says 2 year old daughter cynthia. Died in the fire. Know what is going wolf on Village Apartments in columbus grove. Where the fire started. And where my life ended. I havent been to this place. In. July in 1907 as a prima fascia 1st time back the. Long haul feel about the city and i guess. They are Old Farm Village apartment. And go. And i saw one of those on fire. Old farm Village Apartment was pretty much. An apartment in the low income if you had money welfare could pick you up and stop the. Complex at adis. Everybody would. Be drinking and getting along. Nicely. See the balcony off now how is anybody going to climb up that with a broken hand and a cash to. Carry into containers and gasoline and paint and and junko their mind is impossible can be done. On july 29th 1986 there was a party at the Old Farm Village apartment complex at the time kenny was suffering from depression and drinking a lot that night was no exception. Fish and about 2 oclock noon and carried on until the wee hours of the monk the mother cynthia. She was off party and getting high. A couple of a couple ads stopped by friends of. Car they were them. She said yeah. Maybe so. She came downstairs and measure was passed and me. And what she told me. And shook my head. At the trial collins claim that ricci had agreed to babysit her daughter while she was away. Allegedly in exchange for letting him crash on her sofa that night however neighbors saw him fall into the bushes and passing out soon afterwards. Passed over there where no one. In the bushes. And when he woke up. I went to my farm and. Pulled him up on. My part much in the back. And then you went over here just to see was going on. Came from the other side. How big was the fire. You could see a lot of smoke and flames. Next thing. The body gets into your cones. All of them pretty straight to see a lone girl and like. Every other holy cow i dont know like dreams about what happened about seeing. Yeah i mean while you sleep some bad dreams. No. No no. We better get going. Bro. How you doing. So youre at the house. Whats your address. To the bloody hard didnt sleep over it is not if you want. One so i just know. 2000 and. 8 years in my name is Steven Ritchie and im cammies youngest brother how did we get along. Good i mean. When we all know i looked up to him now as you know its. 1213 you know i look up tall i mean i really. Am for 21 years and. One really has much of a relationship is in prison and so is mine you know our relationship was a phone calls and that was a. Calling and concerned about Kenneth Richie calling on his condition trial was pretty much a farce. They are had him guilty for that trial started a murder trial and it takes 3 judges 45 minutes to. Clear some guy hes guilty. You know the. Death penalty. The. Accord was told that canning too could damage of the sack at the neighbor an apartment had been left with only the 2 year old victim inside it was alleged that his intention was for the fire to spread to the lower floor where hes exgirlfriend and her new boyfriend were sleeping the keys relied on that just a moment as if people attending the party who stated under oath that ricci was drunk and thats threatening to burn down the building. Has to be people its threaten to burn the building in some way. And torch. Going to. Make 3 different variations of it. You know i was garbage to the people who tracked statements people lie. And sometimes theres no explanation. Almost cost me my life so far as some of the evidence goes in the goes back lets go back to the fire marshall. Marshall stated that kenny had poured gasoline on his not on the porch also. And it was tracing the gas in the pool. To please be seated. Almost 20 years later gaining his lores would prove that the investigation had been flawed resulting in the wrong conclusions. There was a brand new porsche that was built. When the fire marshal stated that he didnt take chippings aisle of the charred poor chip wood chips for me brand new build. Dead. But he stated they were charred while crime lab screwed up. Their tests properly. Or didnt read them properly. We had the best experts in the world take a look at that and said now if this is not gasoline. You know pain and false i wouldnt you want the president and the judge just took the history israel you have you execute just one innocent person thats. Reason enough money abba Death Penalty and they just dont do that were going to. Your brother kill you. Fool of the match. No im proud of stephen better put out. Steven has done great for themself in a beautiful from way and i sort of. Tend to jealous. Since you have a brother living around where you can go to use a place to stay for a while until you get. Hes never offered to you know. And im too proud to. Hold yours were stolen from you. Trying to make up for that just social life together. Dr. Michael i. Just when things go good. The rug pulled out from under me. Its all part of the bloody life. And design must still make. Jenny had no regular job or any kind of stable income. Joining me every thursday on the alex salmond show and ill be speaking to guest of the world of politics sports business im showbusiness ill see of that. What politicians do. They put themselves on the line to get accepted or rejected. So when you want to be president. Or somehow want to. Have to go right to be press as a white woman for 3 of them or can people that im interested always in the waters about how. They sit. In the troubled 19 seventies a group of killers rampage through parts of Northern Ireland that was coordinated loyalists attacks particularly catholic population of belfast tens of thousands for forced to flee their homes come up with strike and put these attacks was a p. R. You see the Police Actually took part in the attacks so instead of preventing them they were active participants in the burning of full streets in belfast at the time more than a 100 innocent civilians women. As the review can seniors and we found out more i was surprised about the extent and of the currents which think pollution was involved in some of those cases the killers would later be named goodwin and were getting i think it went to the very very top i think it gave those. The water where all the taste and you walk on and give the go ahead. My name is on all rams the president working on here on this is called sanctuary for years it offers. Housing and restoration for at risk and Homeless Veterans they always have that. How you would be nice to have been imprisoned do you have a film that i thought the most pollution itll be when you get the stigma attached you know so that you know youve done it you know how much of a life left i meant to mr ritchie and the life you know and the october. 2002 so roughly a year ago gave him a place to stay at least a roof or recite it and in exchange he would do menial tasks around the house through the day did he appreciate what ive done for. Him to be honest id have to say no he stopped paying me you know. In a longer paid me into 250. 00 a week in the form that i was paying the rent. You know utilities but i wasnt getting i wasnt getting any money. It threw me all of the a problem you know told me to leave communication or arnold deeds gave me a place to live on condition that he get hes back together and find a job to secure a steady income but that never happened in his case he drank extensively. And he. Was subject to drug use not only drug use but a lot of the also come along with that prostitution. And thats just not the way to renovate your life and get back on a positive path he had an opportunity to redeem his life he had an opportunity to raise. Years of imprisonment and even take full advantage of the opportunity i think they had to me hasnt for. Given himself for something hes been a man make it right because its eating you alive youre just not happy with yourself. When it took me to most elm put me in a. Death row inmate or. Recognized by a red stripe and then goes down the side of the side of the pen like. Indicate sure. That youre in there for execution and every time you walk in the corridors of the present theres a dead man walking dead man walking again he never admitted guilt and launched repeated appeals to have his case review his death sentence was postponed with each new submission but if one was refused any new data in town for the execution was scheduled over his 21 years in prison he was stalled on 13 different occasions the exact date and time when he would die as depression. Brings you dont you know. It does something to you mentally. In other piece of me died i know that on one day. On drugs or not if you dont mind my life is full of bad memories. No need dont need. Dont need to remember dont want to remember the. You see hes. Doing here. Most with the old switcheroo cherry. Leading you to your mind is very good did you. Think it was so emotional because you know she loves me because so far away. She lost she lost me all those years ago and i always knew that he was innocent as i read the truth but nobody took this. Hour proven wrong. Ive been down this road with him forever in almost 60 years. And i had to get to. Because it was. In the early 2000 and. 3 and been sentenced to death and the states began to attract Media Attention on both sides of the pond. They had a reporter they contacted me wanting to talk to me and stuff and me the. Judge and. Prosecutor. You know i was innocent when the article came out and just went from there like you know. Newspapers calling tag to me and then people started writing me. The proclaimers. Orders for a whole all over you. You can read i go. On a stand on national came out. Publicly stating. Ok so one of the most compelling case is a bit of power in the sense the human to human rights champion heard. Of abortion. In 2000 someone get his lawyer skims in agreement with the prosecutors. The arson and murder charges swear a plea bargain down to child endangerment. This was enough to secure richs release considering the amount of time he told what he spends in prison. Only one person in the courthouse Still Believes in ken his guilt valerie pinkly. The victims aunt. I have been here. To the north cafe to get through it but i want to know you want nobody. People who will. Know i never can take any confusion he loves kids. Who knows children clearly he wouldnt be. There you know the idea why so many neighbors and other people who live. Here in the testimonies to give him a probably pissed off somewhere. Kenny started asking me that the age old question about going to hell oh is a target am i going to go to hell for what happened cynthia collins. And i would tell him again for the millionth time you were to drop charring member what happened any didnt know the baby was there and i really believed that and he turned around. And in the most evil board. I had ever heard come out of his mouth with an accent. He goes. I knew she was there and i knew exactly what i was doing. My name is karen i am rich and i am the exwife. Of kenneth rich karen married gainey do you think i was in a lot of it 3 years after he was finally released from prison. I had no idea what i was getting into i had no clue because i truly believed in his story about being incarcerated for 21 and a half years for a crime he didnt commit. And i thought ok ill play into your ego because i really wanted to know how the fire started and i thought how can i how can i ask this question how can i get this information from him without him. Lying to me i said because you are just so incredibly smart you out smart he goes because there are a bunch of dumb asses like ok. Because it was easy because you take a lit cigarette it will come back to it in the book. Behind the couch and that i walk down the street 30 minutes later a place goes up in smoke and they cant connect me to the crime. I didnt expect that. I was just absolute shock. I am married to satan himself. Shes a lawyer just give money you know. Something like. 3 years to come forward with it you know thats just her trauma but you know people should know. Actually she called. Problem of cold cold cold didnt cope with me. Because i ran into it there are other spirits that decided to intervene and one was his father. And his father came to me in the middle of the night although my eyes same the same time of night. I see this figure in a doorway. Shadow walked through the door on the bed. And right next to me again and. He said we need your help. And i need you to tell k. That hes been forgiven. And. He says we need your help to save his soul. The next night. I go to bed and i heard these footsteps. On the carpet running to the side of the. Break up and i looked and there was this little guy in. A little same size as my 2 right there. And im in shock and she said. I need you to live with this is. An easy to tell kenny that i forgive him. I forgive. I said. Ok. Enough to do. The spiritual. Experience. And i had the little girl that died in the fire cynthia collins. I have. Had very few of that kind of thing happen where you shake your core when youre around something so. With Kenneth Richie that happened. Some of the. People that normally also. Really know at times im too nice a potion. Biggest enough to sort of to. Get through to. So i. Can do a bit of a. Child control the pain. Despite the claims of 3 shes exwife. Murder case was never reopened. Karen herself wanted us to make clear that she received no money for a given these interview. After their fall out with donald. Jenny was unable to find a new job and the lack of money man had to move out of the rented apartment and back to the stand in the forest. Is youll be via reflection of reality. In a world transformed. What will make you feel safe. Isolation community. You good in the right way or are you being that. Way. What is true what is faith. In a world corrupted you need to descend. To join us in the depths. Or a mate in the shallowest. During the Great Depression which im old enough to remember there was most of my family were unemployed. And it wasnt it was bed you know much worse objective listen today but there was an expectation of the things were going to get better. There was a real sense of hopefulness there isnt today todays america was shaped by the turn principles of concentration of wealth and power. Reduced democracy attack solid doubt engineer elections manufacture consent and other principle holds according to no im chomsky one set of rules for the rich opposite several so. Thats what happens when you put her into the hands of a narrow sector of wilf which will is dedicated to increasing power for itself just as youd expect one of the most influential intellectuals of our time speaks about the modern. Illustration of america. Headlining tonight another expert breaks ranks from the Global Chemical weapons watchdog saying the o. P. C. W. s final report into the alleged attack in the syrian city of duma last year misrepresented the facts plus. The. Latest on the new citizenship law in india that sparked violent protests nationwide for a 5th consecutive day since if you saw it demonstrators say its discriminatory for singling out muslims as fears build over a legal migrant flow. And the u. S. Calls for denuclearize ation talks again with north korea as pyongyangs year end deadline for sanctions relief draws near