Transcripts For RT Interview 20220423

and alexis, mr. alex h. thank you very much for your time. you are. thank you for inviting me that fall cove. nick once colonel of the yugoslav air defense myself for says, now you are a retired officer that in 1999 when nato was ruthlessly bowman. bell grade you and asked think serb, we're part of a unique operation in each. they asked 117 knight hawks. dow fighter jack of america's air forces was shut down. as far as i know, this was the only time when the aircraft of that type was lost in combat. how did that happen with richard? that night i was at the command post of the $200.00 and 15th air defense missile brigade, which was guarding belgrade, chief of staff. colonel dragon, stank of which was the commander of the task force. my zone included the 3rd battalion, which was under the leadership of colonel danny's alton. we were in touch and he was telling me what he saw in his radar. and i was relaying to him the until that i got from our control and reporting center. at some point a target appeared and the intercept zone of the 3rd battalion. and i gave danny the order to shoot it down. as i said, did you know what the target was? yes, mean is lol it. no, we didn't. it was just to target force. his team did a good job. and the next day we found out from the news on t v that we had shot down f, 117, nighthawks, stealth aircraft, the pride and joy of the united states air force. i guess the saying is true, we just didn't know that it was supposed to be invisible. so you learned about the success of your operation from the new yes, from our new sale at that moment. cougar's pride. it's not every day that you get to shoot down a stealth aircraft. this happened for the 1st time ever. this helped on the emotional level by boosting the morale of the 3rd battalion. it remained the most successful battalion throughout the whole bombing operation. it fought for 78 days and didn't suffer any losses that is high here. yeah. amazing. so as far as i understand, if he hadn't shut down the bomber, it would have carried out its mission. right. the samo yearly on was it was coming towards our air defense command post, but it didn't succeed on its way out. it wanted to strike the 3rd battalion and ended up being shot down. the f 170 ne has a computer that tracks its route so we can avoid any threats. but they didn't know where our defense battalion was maneuvering and hiding. well, there was an imperative force. we were also good at diversion. some say that we used microwave ovens, those were not microwave ovens, of course, we call them radio signal imitators. other devices that they caused confusion when the used anti radiation missiles against us, we would turn on these alternative devices along with our actual raiders. these imitators drew the missiles towards themselves, so our equipment stayed safe here and trailing any military secret i. here is this a well known tactic? as is new, political? yes, it is a well known tactic. we didn't come up with this idea. i actually don't know, maybe we were the 1st ones to employ it. but from what i understand russians were ready to sell us these devices while we manufactured them from whatever we could get our hands on river boat raiders, old aircraft re, as i think that today it is a well known tactic. it happened back in 1999. yes, i see you brought a small piece of it though. yes, i brought a fragment of the f 117. a stealth aircraft. this part is from its wing. this is the so called honey come structure. it is very lightweight. this technology is well no noun. it is used in russian aircraft as well. this isn't a does look like a honeycomb thought. yes, a honeycomb. i'm here. where do you get a? did you just go to the crash site? god? oh yes, there were lots of those fragments there, but it mostly stayed intact, didn't shatter, it was falling like a leaf. it fell in one spot and just one. when god severed, we had a hard time retrieving the swing from our roemer, people who had collected it because of its valuable metal. they were taking it away in a wagon they even showed it on t v. how are roma people were transporting the pride and joy of the u. s. air force as to what happened to the pilot? the water was the pilot catapulted. he was scared of being captured, but it was in the early days of the war. on march 27th, the war started on the 24th. it was a quiet neighborhood of belgrade. the troops were in cost of a. we only had civil defense in the area, so american just came and rescued the pilot that night. we couldn't shoot them down playfully. world moto range. we tried but failed. said he survived those. those of you. oh yes. he survived. he later visited serbia and apologized. he says he had no idea and now his opinion has changed. his origins i actually in yugoslavia slovenia, his mother was from slovenia. his last name is aiko. but more and why did he change his opinion with time though? i don't know, he met with danny zoltan. and in that meeting he said that bombing yugoslavia was a mistake. i don't know if he was sincere. the younger why did you shut down? only one plane. me, wally. i think we shot many more. my gave response to enemy alerts 51 times, but those planes flew at 10000 meters in serbia isn't very wide. so those aircraft that were had often managed to land outside our territory. they denied being shot down and we couldn't prove anything. some planes even made it back to their home air drums. they said there was an aircraft boneyard at the vienna air base. according to their instructions, damaged planes were no longer allowed to go on mission. so as i say ethan i switch . moscow has always been stressing that the current conflict in ukraine has a lot to do with nato expansion. east. what i'll say, do you see any parallels between what's happening today and what was happening in survey and the balkans 20 years ago? yes. who of course i do, there are very obvious parallels. i think what they did in yugoslavia was in preparation for a conflict with russia. they used us as a training ground to practice how to break up russia, just like they broke up yugoslavia. i see that everything that had happened in yugoslavia is happening here now. for example, all these fake reports that i see everywhere. now we had the same. there were used during yugoslav was 2 only back then we couldn't do anything about them. they did it to demonize serbia and all these fake reports were used as a pretext to bomb yugoslavia, such as the rock massacre which was a fake. it's the twin brother of the butcher massacre fake russian television has compared it to the case of this rebrand. it's a massacre, but the events and cerebral needs are, were different. you can't compare them in strawberry inn, it said there was a group of fighters whose deaths were presented as a, as a crime. no, that's the thing, not just a crime, a case of genocide. suddenly there was a crime committed there to some serbian soldiers who engaged in that fight, took revenge out of their families, had been killed when lots of serbians died. that was a crime and were aware of that. but there was no genocide, not a single woman ought god was killed there. only men who were fighting. and they made a memorial cemetery there and have been bringing the remains from all over bosnia and herzegovina to bury their, to make a really big number of graves. they love us. so what do you thing happened in the ukraine in town of buttah? vegas rosario, it's a fake. i know everything about what happened there. i saw it. you showed it how 1st the dpr militia was there and how all was fine. and then how the nazi fighters said they need to kill everyone wearing white arm bands. i don't know why they didn't remove those white arm bands. some questioned who those people were. if they wore yellow arm bands that would raise questions about who they were. and the mayor of butcher was very happy when the russian troops left. i kept when the russian troops left the city, the ne, a paste it in the days. indeed, luckiest and he wouldn't be so happy if such a massacre had occurred. the same things happened in serbia, and every one in serbia knows what really happened. while you see what the west is saying about the same events, no speaking about yugoslavia, it seems nature had some success there for you. yugoslavia is small and had no support at the time we had no allies. we were the only european nation that had to fight the american troops after world war 2. is the vacation, different to day warrior was today, the situation is different. russia is well prepared. it's one of the major world powers. i believe that the u. s. dominance has come to an end. russia must win ago . he said, you think russia will win? what outcome would be considered a victory for russia? thank you. my. i think russia's command is doing a great job there. ukraine is a proxy of the west and it's warren, russia, naziism and fascism are on the rise in the west. western democracy these days is nothing but nazi's mon essence. the as of battalion was trained by israel. it's now and they were trained by native instructors. yeah, that's right, the same jews who were victims during world war 2 today, training nazi fighters. i have friends in israel who think this is an acceptable dissertation on the ground, is dramatic, of course, with lots of shelling, firing, death, and destruction. but there is also a massive information more going on. you mentioned before this interview that you can't find a way to follow our teen english or sputnik anywhere that co. now that's true. not in english was band. sputnik and serbian isn't bad, but it's been the target of endless d dos attacks and i haven't been able to read it even once. i follow our teen russian every day. well, someone who's winning and who is losing they send formation war in your opinion. for marciano, the party, the sliding, the information warfare is in fact, losing on the ground because the only thing they can do is produce fakes. we had a cartoon published once with one russian soldier saying to another with a sad face. we've lost the information war after the battle to take control of the white house in washington dc. time will show who was right, who's cause was just and who's wasn't ours is a just cause victory will be hours, especially with the coin optimism. thank you for being so optimistic. miss alexis, many countries to day face a dramatic pressure. they are being pushed to choose whether they are on the russia side on ukraine's survey. it does feel that it's pressure to for sure. yet, despite all the consequences and risks that survey might face because of its disobedience, they, serbian people and leadership support russia. how do you know that you are on the right side? with her? throughout the entire period of mood and history, i see connections. everything that happened 1st and serbia happened later in russia, and when it started, it was never our fault. the majority of serbians consider russians, a brotherly nation. i don't know why, but i know that's how we all feel. we're brothers one big nation. so to say we're even cooled little russians of the balkans and it's no wonder laws and that's just how it is. you can see that all other nations that were once liberated by russia's red army and were once parties to the warsaw pact and now on the opposite side against russia. no one has ever forced serbia. that's just how we feel that serbians and russians are brothers forever. watching legacy when you have pro chung meanwhile, i can say to day if he would agree with you or serbia or official moscow, do you think they can come back one day later with apologies like that pilot of the fight adapt. you shut down dead? can they come to say they just saw it all wrong? and i don't know, these are just one of cases in serbia. me also have the 5th column, just like in russia. it's a big problem for us. why are the west uses the 5th column to try and control us? it's really active these days. people say, this means that our president has chosen the right policy. we can all easily go out in the streets and chant our support for russia, but it's much harder for our leader. we are surrounded by hostile nato member states. how can we survive and such environment? is it i carry it? we fought and many was, there was a time, i didn't believe a major will. could ever happen again, but then i had to fight into conflicts. my father died in 1993 and sorry ever, we don't want any more wars. serbia's population is shrinking. each new whoo took half of what had been left of us after the previous one. there aren't many serbs left here ration is really good. where do you learn it? while i'm self taught it? was your well them? yes, i did until here 2000 i could barely say a few words. and then i said to myself, i have to learn russian can to call the cell. my souls desire is the slavish culture that we share. it's the science, technology arts. it's a great civilization for me. russian language was due to the russian culture and science. i have a technical education. all the books i couldn't read before. later became available on the internet. i wanted to read the russian classics in the original. i read anna karenina, the brothers karamazov and serbian, and brush and simultaneously to teach myself. and then we all got the internet and cable tv, and it helped me with my pronunciation. i had no speaking practice, this is the 1st time in gray jell, mr. alexis, i haven't ever talked so much in russian until recently, especially run by nist. alexis, thank you so much for your time. i wish you and all of us piece the sooner the better go away. thank you. ah ah ah, efficient with .