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and whether or not they approve about mr. obama and his efforts in afghanistan, now approval is at 55%. that compares to january where it was just 51%. october, 42%. fredricka? >> all right, thanks so much, dan lothian at the white house. thanks for joining us this past hour. i'm fredricka whitfield. don lemon will be up at 6:00 eastern hour. he'll bring a surprising report from libya where jihad leaders are turning against al qaeda. right now amanpour featuring an exclusive interview with actor and activist ben affleck. this week, one of the most famous faces in the world travels to one of the most dangerous places on earth. >> hello. i'm christiane amanpour, and welcome to the program. this week, we look at the fight for world justice. the united states has just changed its game plan, and we have an exclusive interview about the new attitude of the u.s. towards the international criminal court. and the fractured state of relations in the middle east. israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu came to washington this week still defending his policy of expanding settlements in largely arab east jerusalem. >> the jewish people were building jerusalem 3,000 years ago, and the jewish people are building jerusalem today. >> we'll hear from two experts on the middle east, plus -- drumming for peace in one of the most troubled places on earth. the democratic republic of congo. we'll hear what film star ben affleck found traveling to eastern congo and how he thinks the world can help. >> the more i traveled, the more i was struck by it, the more i fell in love with the people, the more i was horrified by what was happening. >> but first the international criminal court. many hailed it as a triumph for global justice when it was established in 2002. but the icc has faced an uphill battle ever since, and not just because it's difficult to prosecute war crimes. but because it never had the support of the most powerful member, the united states. the bush administration had refused to sign on, saying the court could put u.s. citizens in legal jeopardy. >> you know, as the united states works to bring peace around the world, our diplomats and soldiers could be drug into this court. >> but under president obama, the white house has now shifted course somewhat. it's just announced it still won't sign onto the treaty but will seek ways to support some of the key icc prosecutions. earlier this week, i spoke to stephen rapp, the u.s. ambassador at large for war crimes, about what this change would really mean. >> thank you very much for joining us. >> good to be on the program. >> so the obvious first question is why? why now? >> well, the obama administration is dedicated to an approach of engagement, engagement with international institutions, engagement with countries in our interests and consistent with our values. >> but you're still not signing on to the so-called rome statute? >> no, we remain concerned that it might it be possible for a prosecutor who is not accountable to anyone to target an american who's out doing the work that 3 million americans are doing around the world today protecting people from terror and atrocity. >> what exactly will you be doing? what does this shift indicate? what does it mean? >> well, first of all we're engaging with the icc again. there are very important issues being dealt with. issues like potentially they're moving forward with the crime of aggression. and we have to engage that to protect international justice. >> you just said the crime of aggression. what is that? >> well, aggression is the crime that we prosecuted in a way at nuremberg, but a massive aggressive war by the nazis against the countries in europe. and we -- and that is recognized in international law. however, as defined in a proposed amendment to be considered at the icc review conference, it could include almost any act of crossing a border or assisting or allowing another country -- >> so you're concerned about u.s. citizens again, troops, diplomats? >> well, particularly and our allies, as well. if we're taking protective action in various places like we did in kosovo, for instance, people that are involved in trying to protect people could end up being unfairly targeted. >> let me play this part of an interview from the sudanese ambassador to the united nations about this. >> america is an opportunist country. they want to use icc without becoming a member. they use the icc to except their soldiers and they use it through resolution 1153 also to exempt it from any jurisdiction. this is a double standard in its worst shape. >> is it not a double standard? >> it's not a double standard because one of the principles of international justice and the principle of the icc is that if you commit crimes, you commit genocide, war crimes, crimes against humanity, you will hold the people to account in your national system for those crimes. we have a very tough system of military justice and civilian justice in this country that's really a model for the rest of the world. there's no question that if americans violate these rules, they'll be prosecuted. >> i'm going to play something that hillary clinton, secretary of state has said, particularly about the indictment in sudan against president bashir. >> i think that it is very significant that criminal indictment was returned by the international criminal court against president bashir. the actions by the icc sent a clear message that the behavior of bashir and his government were outside the bounds of accepted standards. >> will you support that indictment and the arrest of bashir or the prosecution and particularly i ask you because the united states is obviously in engagement with sudan. >> keep in mind the policy on darfur has changed very little between the last administration and this administration. >> not really. >> the last administration allowed the indictment to go forward, opposed any effort to stop it in the united nations and became one of the strongest supporters of accountability for sudan and we're following that policy. >> actually, the icc said the last administration was even stronger on this issue and on bashir than this administration is being. >> well, i dispute that. our position has been clear that the prosecutor needs to go forward with this investigation that it shouldn't be stopped, it shouldn't be derailed or you know, stayed for a year. >> but what about the vast breaches and this gets back again to the united states, of acceptable standards by, for instance, those who have been accused of torture at abu ghraib, at guantanamo? again, many are saying that there is a double standard and how can the united states lecture the world about other such indictments if it's not going to prosecute its own cases? >> in this administration, the attorney general, the former colleague of mine, a fellow united states attorney eric holder is examining the question in regard to what was called enhanced interrogation, is making decisions about what kind of cases could be reviewed, has appointed a council that's outside the normal sort of system, not a fully independent council, but someone that answers directly to the attorney general. and what the icc requires is that you proceed with that process genuinely. >> let me ask you a personal question. you really came to all of this a long legal journey but you were the prosecutor at the sierra leon tribunal. you were responsible for what finally ended up charles taylor in court there. how do you personally square that professional work that you've done with now the political work of not really signing up to the rome statute? how does that play in your mind? >> it's very consistent. i mean, all of these courts require is the political, economic, judicial, legal support of various member states. and of the united nations, of the icc, you have to have countries that will work in support of bringing accountability. the united states is a leader in rwanda, sierra leon, yugoslavia, a whole variety of these international courts. now we're looking at a situation with the icc where we have concerns about our own interests but on the other hand we see four cases being pursued in africa that cry out for justice where there's been genocide, mass murder, crimes against humanity. accountability needs to be achieved and we have to figure out a way if we can that we can assist that process because that's consistent with your values as americans, consistent with the work to which i've dedicated my life. >> on that note, ambassador rapp, thank you so much for joining us. next, we'll ask one of the icc's prosecution team what this shift in u.s. policy will really mean. it feels like a liner, but protects like a pad. because it absorbs 10 times more. there's nothing quite like it. carefree® ultra protection™. feels like a liner, protects like a pad™. carefree® ultra protection™. an everyday moment can turn romantic at a moment's notice. and when it does, men with erectile dysfunction can be more confident in their ability to be ready with cialis. with two clinically proven dosing options, you can choose the moment that's right for you and your partner. 36-hour cialis and cialis for daily use. cialis for daily use is a low-dose tablet you take every day, so you can be ready anytime the moment's right. day or night. >> tell your doctor about your medical condition and all medications and ask if you're healthy enough for sexual activity. >> don't take cialis if you take nitrates for chest pain, as this may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. >> don't drink alcohol in excess with cialis. side effects may include headache, upset stomach, delayed backache, or muscle ache. to avoid long-term injury, seek immediate medical help for an erection lasting more than 4 hours. >> if you have any sudden decrease or loss in hearing or vision, stop taking cialis and call your doctor right away. >> 36-hour cialis or cialis for daily use. ask your doctor if cialis is right for you. you can be ready for your moment with cialis. were you regularly receiving mayonnaise jars full of diamonds from the iuf? >> never ever did i receive whether it is mayonnaise or coffee or whatever jar. never received any diamonds from the iuf. it's a lie. it's a diabolical lie. never. >> that was charles taylor, the former president of liberia who's now on trial at a special tribunal set up to prosecute war crimes in sierra leon. the icc was established to replace all those ad hoc war crimes tribunals that have been set up over the past two decades. after speaking with stephen rapp, i asked beatrice le fraper the special adviser to the icc about how the shift in u.s. policy would help the court. >> thank you for joining us. >> good to be here. >> first and foremost, how big a shift and how big a support is the united states' new policy of engagement with the icc? >> it's essential for us. we're really excited about the announcement by the obama administration yesterday. we have our shopping list ready of requests for assistance from the american government. the american government for us has to lead on one particular issue, the arrest of sought war criminals. president al bashir, joseph kony in uganda, the terminator in the congo, all those people have arrest warrants against them, arrest warrants issued by the icc judges and they need to be arrested now. >> so what do you expect the united states to do, send in troops and pick them up? >> in the case of joseph in u gab da uganda, he's a militia leader surrounded by armed men. we need the support of the operational support of countries like the u.s. to the drc to uganda to the central african republic to assist them in mounting an operation to arrest him. they have the will. so it's a totally legitimate operation politically, legally. but they need this kind of assistance. and the u.s. has to be the leader. the europeans will follow but we need the u.s. in the lead. >> beyond the arrest which the u.s. does have very significant capacities to do that, what else are you looking for? what else will this support mean? >> again, for us, christiane, the most important is diplomatic support. you know in the case of al bashir, it's not a matter of arresting him. we don't need information on the crimes committed by the president. we know. we have all the evidence. what we need is leadership in isolating him, in making him clearly a fugitive. >> on that note, let me play something from judge richard goldstone, who is the first prosecutor at one of these first tribunals the one for former yugoslavia in the hague. listen. >> i think what's really important is the double standards need to stop. it's really unfair that that international criminal justice only involves small or weaker parts. i think it's very important for that reason that the united states should become much more active and much more involved in the international criminal court. >> well, we've been debating the u.s. role and we've been talking about that, but also what he's talking about weaker powers, there is a perception that it is just africa that is being targeted at the moment. do you have sort of a credibility gap in terms of who you're targeting? >> no, we are very proud of what we're doing. we think that the most serious crimes under our jurisdiction in the last few years have been committed in the countries where we have intervened. >> on that note, thank you, so much, beatrice le fraper, for joining us. >> thank you for having me. next, we turn to the middle east. what will it take to get the peace process back on track. 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[ female announcer ] together we can discover the best of what's next at aarp.org. another challenge for the obama administration, getting the middle east peace process back on track. earlier this week, both israel and the united states addressed the contentious settlement issue head-on. >> new construction in east jerusalem or the west bank undermines that mutual trust and endangers the proximity talks that are the first step toward the full negotiations that both sides say they want and need. >> the jewish people were building jerusalem 3,000 years ago, and the jewish people are building jerusalem today. jerusalem is not a settlement. it's our capital. >> now, shortly after that speech, the deputy israeli prime minister dan meridor told me that there would be no actual building in that settlement in east jerusalem for two years. to get more understanding of this whole issue, i spoke with two analysts on the region, sari nusseibeh, president of al quds university in jerusalem, and from washington, daniel levy, an adviser to the israeli government in previous peace talks. gentlemen, thank you both very much for joining us. let me turn first to you mr. nusseibeh. as a palestinian, you yourself have glumly forecast the two-state solution is fading away. is that what you really think that there is less and less hope for that? >> from a theoretical point of view. of course, everything is still possible but from a practical point of view if you're looking at what's practically happening, then, of course, what you're seeing is a situation in which in fact the two-state solution is no longer possible from a practical point of view, and when you're talking about settlements, i know that the focus today is on 1,600 new housing units in a particular area in jerusalem, ramat shlomo or whatever. but you forget the fact that israel has been building across the green line in east jerusalem for the past 42 years and we already have more than a quarter million people living across the green line in jerusalem, east jerusalem and the surrounding areas. now, i don't see how a two-state solution based on east jerusalem being the capital of a palestinian state is going to be possible under those circumstances. >> all right. >> seems that by default we are going into apartheid reality in which the only solution then will be to try and divide up the rights equally among individuals in one state. >> let me just quickly ask you this. the israeli government, they feel that they don't even have a palestinian partner. yes, mahmoud abbas, but he doesn't bring the entire palestinian people with him. >> the palestinian people elected mahmoud abbas because of his peace program, and they were hoping that through having elected him, he is going to bring about a two-state solution based on the '67 lines with east jerusalem as its capital and this was our last hope but abu mazen has been in office now for several years since he was elected and every day, reality is going in the opposite direction so yes we support abbas, but the palestinian people see that the palestinian people really have no part in the peace. we've been seeking peace on the basis of two states but i believe that we haven't found a partner on the israeli side consistent, powerful enough to bring about that solution. >> all right. let me ask you, daniel levy, it's just incredible that there have been so many years of direct peace negotiations and now they can't even get to that point and it's going to be proximity talks using the united states as mediators and go-betweens. what can the united states do right now? >> well, i think you could use the fact that the united states is driving the process by it being in direct talks, america with israel, america with the palestinians. there's urgency. we've heard it from the deputy prime minister and from what the professor said. i think you need a plan on the table, something concrete for the israelis and palestinians to say yes or no to. the question of the palestinian partner is secondary. if israel's ready for peace, it could stop settlements. it could say to the international community, you guarantee security. you run this. i think we need now a concrete american plan not to deal with one settlement but to deal with the entirety and to get a boarder. >> when you say a concrete plan, there are other plans. the israeli ambassador to the united states has said, we do not want an american plan. it's like forcing people to fall in love. that's what he was quoted as saying. is there any way other than having an american plan? >> i don't see it. no one's asking israelis and palestinians to fall in love. one's saying if you're serious about two states, let's go ahead and do it. israel unfortunately is addicted to the settlements. the settlers and their sympathizers are everywhere in the israeli system. that's why even the prime minister was possibly surprised by what happened ten days ago. a plan which has clear terms of reference, specifically on the borders including borders in jerusalem. then they'll be no question of where is a settlement because you'll have a border. you will know where is israeli and where is palestine. if you want two states you have to do that. if not it's going in the direction the professor is described. >> professor, do you think even at this date there is a possibility for america to break the log jam that maybe these proximity talks can achieve what direct talks or no talks have not achieved? >> i quite agree. if the americans were to do more than simply point out the facts which is what secretary clinton did the other day, if the americans were to actually push for a particular solution as they see it, as they find possible, as they find probably acceptable on the two sides on both parts, i think that would probably be the only way forward. we need american intervention at this moment in time in order to break the deadlock or otherwise, i think i quite agree with what's been said. i think we're certainly going into a default option of a one-state scenario, an apartheid reality. >> professor nusseibeh, daniel levy, thank you both so much for joining us at this critical juncture. and on our facebook page, we're discussing this question -- if israel continues to build in east jerusalem, how will it affect the country's long-term relationship with the united states? so weigh in at amanpour.com/facebook and next, one of the most famous actors in the world takes on one of the worst humanitarian crises. what can ben affleck do to heal the wounds of war in congo? 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why congo? >> well, as you explained, obviously it's a tremendous humanitarian crisis. and i began -- i had heard about it briefly. i was shocked that i didn't know more about it. and i started traveling there to learn about it because while i wanted to take up the cause, i was really insecure about being a kind of celebrity dilettante getting involved. this was about three or four years ago. the more i traveled, the more i was struck by it, the more i fell in love with the people, the more i was horrified by what was happening. and i just started to want to learn about what was happening there. and the more i did, i started to develop this idea of partnering with the people and wanting to empower in community based organizations there doing extraordinary work. >> let me get to that in a minute. that's your eastern congo initiative. briefly tell me, what does that mean? community based partnerships? pre sisly how? >> there are so many of these organizations throughout africa. particularly as i've seen it in eastern congo, that despite this extraordinary crisis are doing immeasurable good and overcoming extraordinary odds in eastern congo. there are folks who are working to protect those who are suffering from gender-based violence, who help child soldiers to, you know, advance the educational needs of the citizens there. there are people who live in the communities, who are from there, who understand the relationships there and who are really, you know, africans finding solutions to african problems. when i was there, what i saw was that those were in my view the most effective folks at meeting those goals. >> i want to play some video that you shot, your people shot there. you sent it to us. it's you going to a prison and what happens in the prison. and i want you to describe it a little bit. you're going in. i think you're talking to the prisoners. then a scuffle breaks out. >> yeah. this is the prison which is, i think -- not a place you want to find yourself imprisoned. it's in eastern congo. the only prison there in the city. madly overcrowded. i was there looking at causes of gender-based violence. interviewing some rapists, in fact. this is one of several incidents that took place there. you know, it just -- it wasn't really dealt with. it just seemed like just, you know, quite common, in fact. >> when you say you were interviewing them, what was the purpose of that? what were you trying to get out of those prisoners there? >> i was trying to find out a couple of things. one, you know, because impunity is such an issue there, i was trying to find out who, if anyone, was, in fact, convicted. and, two, trying to get to the bottom of this sort of culture. everybody asks, what's going on? why is this happening? why are -- why has this become such a prevalent cultural norm? and no one could provide any answers to that. and so i in partnership with some other of these local organizations there kind of set out to find some answers about that. >> and we also have a picture of laba kamana. tell me a story about this woman. >> this is a woman who worked with one of the organizations that we at eci want to partner with, lav, which is a french acronym for let africa live. she was take prisoner by the fdlr, a bit of a long story, the former group that caused the genocide in rwanda. they're now the principal militia in congo. they took her prisoner three years ago. they, in her words, treated her like an animal and a slave. she was a bush wife to six men who raped her. she became pregnant. she eventually escaped by asking basically permission to take a bath and making a mad run for it. she barely escaped with her life. she walked for a week and made it back to the city. she was homeless, pregnant, destitute in the city. she was discovered by folks from this organization. they took her in. they brought her into this community. they teach basically trade -- they teach you a trade like, you know, carpentry, auto mechanics, sewing. even more they sort of bring you into a community and sort of bring folks back, former child soldiers and the like. she is now -- when she spoke to us, she was going to law school. she wanted to teach -- she wanted to practice law to protect women's rights. she's an extraordinary woman. that was the kind of group we want to partner with and support so we can broaden their capacity more. >> who wha do you think is the most important for you to want to focus on in terms of really trying to effect change. >> it's important to do top down and bottom up. that's why we want to do grass roots as well as a sort of top down advocacy. so you can do kind of cause and effect. if you're just putting band-aids on something it has the potential to go on forever. you're just catching water at the bottom of a water fall. we want to do policymaking both at the united states level and at the international level and at the local african country's level. the united states really needs to develop a comprehensive policy towards congo as a whole, much in the same way it did toward sudan in late 2009, which it doesn't have toward eastern congo. despite what a sort of mess the place is. i think that's really the smartest approach. next, we'll be back with a look at what the world is doing or not doing to stop the war in eastern congo. but one glimmer of hope is in the extraordinary efforts to rehabilitate child soldiers. check out our website, amanpour.com where we have a special look at these efforts and the group search for common ground. they use music and theater to help these children find their way back to a civilian life. 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and show us where the desperate emergency is right now. >> well, it's really difficult to isolate the worst areas. the area where the worst violence has been over the last several months has been this sort of access around here. but really all across this area that you see here, about the size of california, there is ongoing violence. i think in response to your question about what ben is doing, i think it's great. i think, however, and i can only applaud what he's doing, i think the key challenge in the congo is actually to try to reform the state. and state institutions. and so while what he's doing with local ngos is wonderful, i think we're not going to have a solution to the problem and to the rapes were for that matter, until we have a congolese army that serves the people rather than preys on the people. >> how do you do that? >> it's not unlike in afghanistan. it's very difficult. especially if the state is unwilling. but $4 billion is currently the amount the international community gives to the congo for various things. and yet -- and they've done a great job in emergency stuff, in feeding displaced people. but really a very poor job in reforming the state institutions that would prevent such a crisis in the future. >> let me tern to sylvie in washington. you are a lawyer. you're dealing with the victims of rape and other such sexual violence. in terms of i guess not just on the individual level, but on the big level, can you make a difference here? is there some way of bringing accountability for these crimes? >> yeah. like my -- talk about the justice and the responsibility of the state. i think the problem is the policy at the national level. even if the victim -- they are ready to go, to talk about the issue. but the problem is the government should make sure that the justice will be there to do a great job about it, to get justice to the victim. the thing is the corruption, even if we have a lot of cases, their problem is not -- we have many testimony, but to prove, to have an affidavit to prove the justice, that is -- that's difficult. >> what you're saying, sylvie, is that you need all the legal weapons at your disposal to be able to go to court and to actually -- to actually prosecute these crimes. let me just put up a quote about rape. it says, rape is not just a by-product of the conflict in congo. it is a combat strategy systematically used to ter roiz and hue mill yat and it cannot be tolerated to achieve a larger military goal. that's from the director of the irc's program. in this regard given what you've both been saying about taking this to a government level, ben affleck, let me ask you, because you did talk to the president of congo, to joseph kabela. you sat with the president of rwanda. you had an opportunity to speak. what did you say to them? what did they say to you? >> i mostly take the opportunity that i get when i'm talking to anybody in a position of power and influence or expertise, to learn at this point, you know? one of the things i learned from those gentlemen, which is interesting, they would like eastern congo to be stable and secure for their own political agendas. >> is there any hope that at any time, soon, there's going to be stability? or is -- or are the factors creating this war still hot and boiling? >> we've come an awful long way from the peak of the war i would say in 2000 and 2001 when you had nine african countries involved. you have a small area of the country that's engulfed and terrible violence but it's much better than it used to be. we've come a long way. i would say the key factors that initially brought the war about in 1996, the collapse of the congolese states and overflow of the genocide in rwanda, those factors are prevalent today. i think we have not yet done enough to root out those causes and prevent further conflict in the future. >> let me play this bit of an announcement by secretary of state hillary clinton when she was in gomo a few months ago, gomo which is in the congo. listen. >> today i'm announcing that we will provide more than $17 million in new funding to prevent and respond to gender and sexual violence in the drc. >> sylvie, secretary of state clinton on behalf of the united states government is talking about $17 million to prevent gender-based violence. is that going to help? will that make a difference, and how? >> yeah. i think it's a good incentive, but the problem is how they're going to use this money. i say that the government should make sure that it is addressing the need of the congo. we need to ban the sexual violence against women and the other side, which the government is supposed to do is address the sexual violence against women like the priority of government. in the way we are seeing, this is not -- not the priority of the government. we need to address this. >> this is a war crime. rape, jason, is a tool of war, is a war crime. it's not just a crime, it's a war crime and enshrined as that at war crime tribunals. do you know of progress or developments on any of the investigations into the war crimes? any of the u.n. investigations? are there going to be announcements? >> if i may, christiane, this is very important. she said $17 million. primarily giving money to hospitals. this is great. we're giving $4 billion to the congo. >> to who in the congo? >> $4 billion to the world bank, imf, u.n. world keeping mission. >> the government? >> this is everything tonight. humanitarian aid. a huge chunk of that goes to the government. despite the fact we're giving $4 billion to this wide array of different causes, much of it's the government, we've failed in reforming state institutions. for me this is propaganda, nothing else in terms of the u.s. government. i'm a big supporter of president obama. he mentioned numerous points in his campaign he would address darfur and the congo. $17 million, this is nothing. >> ben, you know, you have this role now. you've taken it on. you have access to the wholes of power and people like president obama presumably. is this a message that you want to convey? do you feel this is your work now to make this visible and unavoidable? >> well, i wouldn't overstate my access to president obama, but i would -- i would definitely -- i tend to agree with jason in some respects. i think the -- i think the important thing -- what happens is we have a very sort of scattered-shot approach here. you have usaid over here, defense over here, you have this scatter-shot approach to our policy with drc. what happens when we spend money it's free and effective. adding more money in various ways sometimes, you know, doesn't work. what we need to do is have this comprehensive policy where we understand what we're doing collectively. >> that's the challenge and i thank you all for joining me. ben afflec, sylvi, jason, thank you for being in the studio. next, our postscript. how politics, today, are imposing themselves on a treasure of the past. stay with us. 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