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>> even what sort of stresses were placed on that out ter aircraft? >> absolutely. because you can see the way any metal or any items are bent. this is the absolute art of aircraft investigation. the ntsb are brilliant at it. the uk and the france, australians are all very talented and experienced at doing it. the malaysians, incidentally, this is almost certainly going to be a malaysian investigation. it is an international waters, which becomes the state of occurrence. there isn't one. therefore, the investigation is held by the state of operator, state of registry, in both cases, that is malaysia. >> let's bring in bobby skoly, a retired navy captain, consultant with maritime diving and salvage, spent a lot of time in the water. bobby, in terms of the focus

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