>> on the planes, you have lots of rectangular things and rectangular things don't occur in nature. you have food service carts, cargo containers in the plane, potentially, pieces of luggage, rectangular equipment on the plane. you have a lot of things on aircraft and ships too that don't have rounded edges. in nature, things are kind of rounded. so it is encouraging that they find things that wouldn't just be out there, like clumps of seaweed. one time, they had found a whale carcus. the shapes and colors are very important. they are going to have to pick it up and get it on a ship to see if it is the plane and identify it. that will be a tremendous breakthrough. >> it is encouraging. they saw it with their naked eye. they weren't looking for debris in a satellite image as they
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