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Republican debate, he refused to promise to be a republican. Its been asked many, many times. Hes sort of been moving there a little bit publicly, but i can tell you the way to answer that is to tell you what im told has been going on privately which is a whole lot of conversations, pressure, cajoling, maybe, from the Republican National committee and other republicans even around the country, take south carolina, for example, the first in the south primary states. Thats a place where you have to be a pledged republican to even participate in the primary th e there. So those are some of the reasons why donald trump, it looks like, is going to sign this pledge. Now the reason why im hedging and i keep hedging, i really have been since yesterday when we reported all signs are pointing to trump signing this pledge, is because i am also warned that everything is going to really come down to what happens in the meeting that will happen this hour between donald trump and the Republican National committee cheer Reince Priebus who flew up from washington to come right here where i am at trump tower to meet with donald trump, to put to finally seal the deal, basically, to convince him, please sign this pledge. This is sort of all part of the long process to get him to do that. And the reason why they want him to do it is probably obvious now to our viewers is because republicans are very worried that if donald trump doesnt get the nomination and ultimately says, you know, im going to run as an independent, that will almost definitively siphon both the republicans and probably elect a democrat. Theres a recent quinnipiac poll that suggests if trump puts in the Third Party Bid it would hand the president ial election to democrats exactly as you suggest there, dana. The poll Shows Hillary clinton at 40 , then jeb bush and donald trump at 24 each in a hypothetical threeway race. This is sort of the ultimate nightmare for republicans, isnt it . Reporter oh, it would be a total nightmare scenario for republicans. But having said that its also important to make clear that this pledge, assuming that he does sign it, isnt legally binding at all. Its just a twolined piece of paper. Ive talked to several lawyers, campaign lawyers especially, who say weve looked up the law that we dont have anything that shows that he would have to abide by this at all. So its more of a political document, maybe a practical document for him now. But it is not legally binding. So if for some reason something dramatically changed over the next, what, six months or even more and trump didnt get the nomination, he doesnt necessarily have to abide by this pledge even if hes signs it. That is noteworthy. And the other thing that is noteworthy is i am told that trump tower behind me in his offices the calls that he is getting about this issue from his supporters, people who are already all in on donald trump are saying dont do it. Dont become part of the establishment. Dont promise to be affiliated with the party. We want you to sort of stay out there and hang out and keep the option open to run as an independent. So thats what theyre getting from supporters, but the flip side of that, as you know, bree, he wants to win the nomination, get beyond supporters and there are a lot of Party Faithful who want to know he is actually a republican especially as theyre hearing more and more from people like jeb bush that he is not a real conservative showing his more liberal positions from his past. Dana bash outside of trump towers. Thank you so much. So what does it mean politically and legally if donald trump signs this loyalty pledge which is really kind of a strong suggestion, as you just heard dana explaining there. A political law attorney will shed some light on this. Thanks so much for being with us as we take a look at this pledge that says i affirm if i do not win the republican nomination i will endorse the 2016 republican president ial nominee regardless of who it is. And then it continues, it says i further pledge that i will not seek to run as an independent or writein candidate nor will i seek to accept the nomination for president of any other party. But this is not legally binding, right . Well it depends on the state. We have to remember, we have two procedures here were dealing with. First are these debates and the cnn debate thats coming up in two weeks. The rnc has no doubt entered into agreements with cnn as it did with fox and other Media Outlets and the Republican National committee has the right to decide who is and isnt allowed on its primary debate stage. So we start with that. And Bernie Sanders asks to be in the republican debate, i doubt it would be allowed. We have to look at the fact there are many states that have what we call sore loser laws, so that someone who loses a primary cannot then run as an independent or another partys candidate in the general election. There are a lot of states that have that because, remember, we dont have a National President ial election. We have 50, plus the territories, state elections and the state laws govern who can and cannot be on the ballot. And a lot of state laws would keep donald trump off their ballot in a general election. From a political standpoint, republican president ial candidate carly fe lly fiorina saying this is a matter of trust. Here is what she said on cnn. Its unenforceable. It is more than anything else your word. I would presume that somebody running for president would like to signal to the American People and most especially right now to republican primary voters that their word can be trusted. But i wonder is there really any fallout for donald trump if he goes back on his word there . You heard from our reporter dana bash there on the scene at trump tower that a lot of his supporters are saying kind of, whatever, okay. They want him to be really independent. I think as a practical matter one needs to remember that getting on the ballot in all 50 states, if you are not the Major Party Nominee, is not that simple. If youre the Major Party Nominee of either of the two recognized national parties, then all the party does is certify you and you go on the ballot. Thats not true if you run as an independent or minor party candidate. Those are very difficult procedures. And ross perot was only able to get on the ballot in a number of states because he had been the subject of a draft movement, so they already had signatures or had him on the ballot. This is not an easy think. I think in the final analysis it is the wise thing for the Republican National Committee Chairman to meet with donald trump based on trumps statement in the first debate and to say, look, if youre going to be on our stage as a candidate, you have to pledge support to the party. And i think thats an important thing that Reince Priebus is doing today. All right. As you see, the bar is high to be on the ballot in many states. Thanks for explaining that to us. Donald trump is supposed to hold a News Conference next hour. As soon as it begins, of course cnn will bring that to you live. Stay with us for that. Next, another man vying for the white house will join me live. Im talking republican president ial candidate rand paul. You can hear his thoughts on this pledge with the rnc and on donald trump as well as some comments hes recently made. Thats amazing. Its amazing. This is amazing. Thats amazing real people are discovering surprising things at chevy. Were sold. Its so pretty. Theyre goodlooking cars. It feels great. Perfect. This is not what i would expect from a chevy at all. Get more than you expect, for less than you imagined at the chevy 72 hour sale. Now, get zero percent financing for seventytwo months on most 2015 chevy vehicles. Hurry, the clock is ticking. Get yours now. The seventytwo hour sale ends september 10th. 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Joining me now from capitol hill, we have kentucky senator, this is very appropriate, and republican president ial candidate, rand paul. Senator, you just heard that news. Whats your reaction to this . I know youve come out in support of kim davis, but with this news, whats your take . I think its absurd to put someone in jail for exercising their religious liberty. If you want to convince people that samesex marriage is something thats acceptable, i would say try to persuade people. If were going to use the federal government and were going to get involved in every state locality, you know whats going to happen, its going to harden peoples resolve on this issue. There will be no openmindedness on this. And i think its a real mistake to be doing this. I think whats going to happen as a result of this is states and localities are just going to opt out of the marriage business completely. Her heartfelt religious conviction is that this isnt the kind of marriage she approves of. My understanding is she will file a contract, if two adults have a contract, shell file it. She just doesnt want to have a signature, her signature, on it showing her approval. I see no reason why there couldnt be a compromise where we couldnt have a notary of the republic, a notary of the public, certify the contract and she files it. My understanding is she will do that, that she doesnt want to give her signature to a type of marriage that she objects to and this is really the problem when from the federal level we decide to get involved with a situation that is always throughout the history of our country been a local issue. What do you think about Carly Fiorinas take on this . She has said, like you, that she respects ms. Davis beliefs, her religious beliefs, but she also says shes a Government Employee and she should be executing the will of the government, and if she doesnt want to do that, then she should get a new job. I think one thing we havent debated enough is what actually is the law. Is the law every county clerk in kentucky has to sign a marriage certificate . Is a notary of the public, is that sufficient . Is the clerks job to execute and to file a contract or is it to sign their approval . I think theres a lot of different ways around this that dont lead to conflict that lead to more time when people can try to persuade others of their opinion on what marriage should be. I think this is a real mistake and even those on the other side of the issue, those who want to support a new definition for marriage, i think it sets their movement back because its seen as the federal governments going to come in with bully force and even police power and incarcerate people. I think this is a huge mistake and its a step back even for those who do want to redefine marriage. I want to talk to you about something youve said this week about heroin addiction. Here is what you said. People always come up to me and say we have heroin problems and all of these other problems, you work all day long, you dont have time to do heroin. All right. That joke received by the crowd there, but this morning on cnns new day your opponent, new jersey governor chris christie, said it was insulting. He said its not facing the reality that addiction is a disease. Whats your reaction to that . You know, the problem with short clips it didnt carry the whole discussion and i discussed at least ten times in New Hampshire that i do believe we should treat the addiction and we shouldnt treat it as an incarceration problem. Im not for locking up drug addicts. I am for rehabilitation. I am a lead cosponsor of a bill that would allow doctors who treat drug addicts to see more patients. Currently theres a bizarre federal law that limits how many people who are addicted can be seen by one doctor. My bill would expand doctors ability to treat addiction and include Nurse Practitioners and others who are certified in drug treatment. You pick out a snippet of me trying to be funny and you dont listen, the inclination is this is really what my position is on drug addiction. But if you listen to more of the speech, youll find my position is i think we should save money on incarceration and actually spend it on drug rehabilitation. All right, senator, as you know this pledge, the loyalty pledge, this is all the buzz today in politics with your field. You have called donald trump a fake conservative. You said this week that if trump wins the nomination, the gop would suffer its biggest defeat since Barrie Goldwater lost to johnson. Have you signed the loyalty pledge . And if donald trump were to be the nominee, would you support him . Ill support whoever the nominee is and i will sign the pledge. I signed a pledge when i ran for senate because, frankly, you need all of the republicans to come together. I do think donald trump would be a disaster for the country and a disaster for our party. I think wed suffer the worst defeat since 1964. I dont think you want a nominee that offends whole areas of the public, whole ethnic groups. If you say most hispanics are drug dealers and rapists and murderers, well, thats crazy talk and that offend a whole segment of our community. Most came here seeking the American Dream the same way my ancestors did. Are there some people who break the law . Absolutely. Should they be punished . Absolutely. Painting with a broad brush that all immigrants are bad people is a terrible thing to say and will be a disaster for our party. I also think hes a fake conservative because hes not supported any conservative notions. Hes for raising your taxes. Hes been for obamacare and hes also been for taking private property from small Property Owners and giving it to them. Thats why he pays so much money for politicians so he can get them to take peoples property through Eminent Domain and absorbs it into his casino business. I dont think theres anything conservative about trump. Ultimately when conservatives find out hes a fake conservative, theyre going to reevaluate the race. I want to ask you, senator, about this migrant crisis in europe. Its been going on for some time now, hundreds of thousands of people seeking refuge from syria, from iraq, but it seems in the consciousness now of americans because of this just horrible, horrific photo weve seen of a young boy who died in the process of trying to escape syria. What do you think about how the Yunited States should be involvd in this, and if the u. S. Should take in any refugees . I dont think there are any easy answers as far as how we stop war and stop famine around the world, and so it will probably continue to occur. The one thing i think we should do in the middle east, though, that could make maybe some of these wars less harmful, i dont think we should be arming people who hate us. I think its sad and its a travesty that isis now has a billion dollars worth of u. S. Humvees. They ride around in our tanks. They have our weapons. They have antitank weapons. I think thats a mistake because we got involved in the Syrian Civil War and we got on the side of al qaeda and isis which i think was a terrible tragedy and a terrible mistake by president obama. We are a welcoming nation and we have accepted a lot of refugees, and i think well continue to do so. We also cant accept the whole world so there are some limits. I also think those who come to our country, we need to get him to assimilate into our country, and i dont think its a good idea to develop whole populations within the u. S. Who really dont like the u. S. I think we have to be selective and careful, and we are a welcoming country. We just cant take everybody. You think the u. S. Should play a part in this, though . Obviously germany, a lot of other European Countries are trying to figure out a which to accommodate some of these refugees. You see the u. S. Fitting into that effort . Part of the way we can be helpful in the effort is not by furthering and making the war worse in that region of the world because they flee the famine and disaster of war. But at this point, senator, theyre fleeing. Im trying to get a sense they are fleeing at this point. These refugees specifically at this point in time, we know a lot of them are held up at certain parts of the border in europe. Sh should the u. S. Play a role in that or look to europe to deal with this . The people who live there will have a bigger stake in accepting refugees. We have been a very generous nation and have accepted a lot of refugees. Weve accepted refugees from syria. We accepted a lot from somalia. Weve run into some problems with accepting so many refugees that we take some of the people who could help rebuild the country. We did this with iraq where we won the war, but then we accepted 60,000 iraqi refugees into our country, some of which wish us harm and try to attack us, the same way with somalia. We received so many immigrants and refugees, part of them are the faction that has gone back to fight against us. I think we do have to be careful with this and we should have a warm and welcoming heart, but we also just cant accept the whole world. Thanks for having me. For the latest in politics and for the latest on all of the president ial contenders including senator paul, head on over to cnnpolitics. Com. 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And his father tells cnn they were trying to get to europe after multiple attempts for asylum in canada were rejected. You see him with his brother. Sadly his mother and his older brother also drowned. A Turkish News Agency is reporting police are holding four suspected traffickers for the deaths of 12 serial migrants that includes aylan kurdi and his family who drowned after their boat sank. Meanwhile, another setback for families stuck in hungary desperate to get to europe. Trains were halted at a town about 19 miles outside of budapest. These were chaotic scenes that played out as police lined the rails and ordered passengers to get off the trains. One family actually laid down on the tracks refusing to leave the train. Police forcibly removed them. Cnn Senior International correspondent arwa damon is on one of those trains. She has seen firsthand what is happening there. Shes joining us now by phone. Ar arwa, why are authorities holding up the trains . Reporter well, hungary has maintained its simply abiding by the dublin agreement and appealing to European Union laws when it comes to the whole asylum process, dictating an individual needs to apply for asylum at their first point of entry. The problem is no one wants to fight for asylum in hungary because they dont have a say in hungary. The other problem is going to the camps. At this stage this is even more important that many of them are traumatized by the experience that they had when they went to the transit camp that is located on the hungarian border where everyone tells you about the conditions that they were meant to live in. They say they were treated like andimals, that the conditions they were in were inhumane, that their treatment was inhumane, so they cant really stand the idea of going back into these camps. Now were on one train stopped here for about seven hours. Theres a second train that just arrived on other tracks. Families were taken off of that train. Its less crowded than the one im on right now and they were marched away. Earlier, too, a very dramatic scene play out where one family that was caught by the police because the minute you break away from the main crowds that are on the train and on the platform going to the front of it, the police will try to grab you. They sat down and refused to move, and the police had to, it seems, carry them away. The children on this train are exhausted. Theyre hungry. Theyre tired. Theyre crying. Their parents dont know what to do. Its so hard for the parents. They keep telling us because they cant understand that theyre having to look at their children living like this. This was not what they thought europe was going to be. This is not how they thought europe was going to receive them. What are other countries like germany and some of the European Countries who have said they will welcome some of these refugees, what do they want hungary to do, arwa . Reporter technically they are supposed to register all of these refugees here. Thats the dublin agreement. Thats e. U. Law. Germany has said they will take refugees in but has said all nations must abide by the dublin agreement which lends itself to a confusing atmosphere and mixed messages being given to these people. They are following whats happening closely and theyve all latched on to the words of german chancellor Angela Merkel when she said germany was ready to receive hundreds of thousands of refugees and asylum seekers. So theres this desperate belief if they can get to germany things will be okay, but then you also have the German Government coming out and saying, no, all nations must abide by dublin and dublin effectively is what hungary is saying is not allowing them to let the refugees move on. So theyre stuck in this game of political pingpong at this stage. 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It has 30 billion probiotic cultures. Feel lighter and more energized. Ultimate flora. More power to your gut. Hillary clintons former state department chief of staff appeared today before the House Select Committee on benghazi. That would be cheryl mills, expected to face questions about clintons emails. This was during closed a closed door session there on capitol hill. Another former aide, a key aide, has indicated hes not going to answer questions. He will instead plead the fifth amendment. This is a former i. T. Staffer. He helped with the private email server clinton used as well as her email account. Joining me to talk about this from new york is brian fallon, the press secretary for hillary for america. Thanks for being with us, brian. Really appreciate it. I do want to read a statement from nick merrill. This is secretary clintons traveling press secretary. And nick says shes made every effort to answer questions and has encouraged her aides, current and former to do the same. That includes, brian pagliano. Why is he ignoring that encouragement, do you think . Hes not a part of the campaign. Hes a private citizen and so we cant require him to do anything. Hes represented by his own lawyer. All we can do is give the same advice and recommendation and encourage as Hillary Clinton has done with all of her aides, current and former. You mentioned cheryl mills, shes testifying at a long session today with the benghazi committee, jake sullivan, her former deputy chief of staff from the state department is testifying tomorrow. Shes personally testifying herself in october. I believe there will probably be other aides that come forward and are willing to answer questions. So in every instance so far shes encouraged everyone to cooperate because we want to make every good faith effort to be transparent and answer any questions people have. But with mr. Pagliano, we encouraged him as well because we dont think he has any reason to not be transparent about the help that he provided from an i. T. Perspective, but, unfortunately, its his choice what to do, and i think that i cant speak for him but i can only speculate and from the words that have leaked out from the letter that his attorney sent to capitol hill, it suggests that he was afraid of being caught in a partisan swirl that now consumes three different committees on capitol hill where republicans are trying to take this factfinding expedition into a partisan exercise meant to hurt Hillary Clintons campaign. So let me ask you about that because certainly, and i think observers will say, look, there is clearly a political aspect to this but there are also questions that need to be asked and need to be answered. Sure. Absolutely. You said shes done everything to be transparent, but i personally asked her about deleting her emails, how she came to that decision, how it was executed. That was two months ago. She did not answer that question when i asked, and she hasnt answered it since. How is that transparent . I disagree with that, brianna. Weve been pretty clear, and actually all of that information is posted on our website. She answer it had when its been asked on the trail. After she turned over all 55,000 pages of her email that could have been remotely deemed work related, they made the decision to not retain any of her emails. That was her decision. But why . Why did she decide to delete the emails . Well and how was that process executed . Its not even clear who went through the emails, the actual time line for when those were deleted. Weve got ann range but its kind of vague. Okay. So ill tell you. 55,000 pages of workrelated emails, her legal team did extensive key word searches, went email by email, related as work based was handed over to the state department. So it was just her legal team . Was she involved or her aides involved . I dont know what you mean by aide. She has personal attorneys who are well known. David kendall, yes. David kendall, cheryl mills, her personal attorneys. Cheryl is testifying or giving an interview today on capitol hill. The personal emails, the ones that were personal in anywnatur were hers to do with what she wanted and quite understandably i think the public agrees that even politicians and Public Officials are entitled to privacy. And her daughters wedding the work emails, brian, deleted as well. Now i know thats right. They had already been provided. But, for instance, a judge said in the case of cheryl mills with her attorney who said, hey, cheryl mills is turning over her paper emails and i have advised her to delete them, the judge said, oh, no, no, no, no one is deleting anything, and many legal experts say if youre facing scrutiny, you dont delete emails and thats the question that i sort of want to get at here. Sure. So let me try to be as clear as possible and you can follow up and ask if anything is unclear. She provided 55,000 pages of emails. Its true she provided them in hard copy. Thats what the law required. If the state department asked them to be provided electronically, we would have done that. The law required them to be in paper form. She made the decision after that to not retain those other than a copy that was kept why . It wasnt kept on the server, brianna, but a copy was kept by her personal attorney. Why didnt she keep them on the server . I dont know what the relevant the pertinence of that would have been. She kept a copy in the possession of the electronic copy in the possession of her lawyer. Cheryl mills keeps hers in her email account. Many records experts say that brianna, the same emails were kept in electronic copy of them were kept by David Kendall and then last month we provided them to the Justice Department, so no emails were lost in the process. I think people are focusing on the wrong thing. The state department had them in paper copy and then last month the Justice Department received an electronic copy. Just to be clear, brian, this is an Electronic Company i imagine in pdf form or is this the actual email with the data on it . Soap the Justice Department in addition to having the electronic form of the pdfs provide d to the state departmet also now have the server. I dont know what the fbi is going to do with it but they may seek the wiped server. The wiped server, right, brian . I dont know what wiped means. The emails were deleted. The emails were deleted but im asking you about the thumb drive. You said David Kendall had the electronic copy of the emails. Those were pdf copies. These were not the actual emails that had the meta data. These were not the emails as you would see them on a server if they hadnt been do you see what im saying . Right, but im not sure what point youre making. Theyre pdfs. More information and a judge said cheryl mills shouldnt delete emails. Thats a separate case. Im not sure why youre asking about cheryl mills. If you follow certain standards of preservation. No, brianna, she has followed every request. The state department asked for emails in paper form, she provided them. They were asked on a thumb drive, she provided them. She also provided the server. I dont know what wiped means. The emails were deleted off the server, thats true, but its quite possible, i dont know that any steps were taken to remove any meta data. So to the extent that there is a further inquiry with respect to the server, they wont find anything other than what weve represented is all the workrelated emails were turned over and, in fact, Hillary Clinton herself has signed a declaration asserting that. So even if somehow they were able to look at any of the emails that were not retained, they wouldnt find anything than what weve always said which is all the work related emails are in the possession of the state department already. I just wanted to take the opportunity to get to some of the Decision Making processes, brian, and i certainly appreciate you coming on to talk to us about it. I have some more questions but ill follow us because were out of time. Well follow up off line. Thanks, brianna. Coming up, donald trump meeting with the rnc chairman right now. Were going to talk about that plus jeb bush is back after trump says he should be speaking english while in the united states. Stay with us. 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Ask how enbrel can help relieve joint pain and help stop joint damage. Enbrel, the number one rheumatologistprescribed biologic. There is a new poll out today showing donald trump is expanding the lead over the republican field. The poll shows trump at a new high. 30 , ben carson at 18 . That is up 13 points since a poll before the first debate. Jeb bush, ted cruz, theyre tied at 8 and then you have marco rubio there at 5 . Trump this hour is meeting with Reince Priebus, the chairman of the Republican National committee. I want to bring in cnn political commentator, jeffrey lord, a former white house political director of ronald reagan. I also want to bring in cnn political commentator anna navar navarro. Anna, what do you make of the latest poll shows trump at 30 . I think trump has been able to consolidate his segment of the vote, the vote thats very frustrated, concerned. I think he is doing a remarkable job in dominating the press. He continues to do it today with whats turning into a press event with the signing of the pledge. And i think thats what you are seeing. Ben carsons numbers to me are, frankly, a little bit more surprising and evangelical vote with him but he hasnt had the media coverage, hasnt spent the time in iowa and New Hampshire that donald trump has so those numbers to me are a little bit more surprising and the voters want somebody thats an outsider and sending a strong message with the poll. Anna mentioned the poll there, jeffrey, we are expecting from source that donald trump will sign. Whens in it for him . And can he just change his mind . Well, he can i mean, he can change his mind. As best i understand, this is not legally binding. Now, there may be a situations here where if he doesnt get along with it, getting on the ballot in different states might be a problem. I dont know. Im not a Legal Authority on this kind of thing. But, you know, frankly, i think this is a bit silly, although, i will say it pushed governor bush to say, yes, if donald trump is nominated, he would support him. In that sense it perhaps wound up putting governor bush in a box on this kind of thing. All right. Live pictures of trump tower awaiting donald trump possibly to we expect him actually, actually, not possibly, to do a press conference. I want to get both of your perspective on the back and forth of jeb bush and donald trump. Trump criticized bush for speaking spanish to reporters an ento students at a town hall meeting. Heres how bush responded on good morning america. What was your first thought when he criticized you for speaking spanish . I laughed. I mean, this is a joke. I was in a press gaggle where people asked me a question in spanish. I answered it in spanishment part of it is you laugh because its bizarre and hurtful for a lot of people and he knows this. He is appealing to fears rather than higher hopes. Anna, what do you think . You know, i i think its enough. I think its enough by donald trump of picking on latinos, picking on mexicans, our language, our culture. We are americans. We are proud americans. But we speak spanish, people are able to speak more than one language is a good thing. Anna, im so i get it. Trump needs to pick a fight every now and then. I wish he would find somebody else to pick it with. Jeffrey, 20 seconds, final thought on this. Rush limbaugh on the air today talking about exactly this and said he was astounded at the thought that speaking english is controversial. And i would suggest that governor bush made a mistake to think its humorous and only going to, you know, add to the fire. Okay. Okay. We are going to leave it right there. Jeffrey, i want to report cnn has learned that donald trump and Reince Priebus are meeting one on one. No staff there. Thank you so much. Thats it for me. Ill be back at 5 00. Newsroom starts right after a quick break. 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Hes expected whether hes going to take a pledge of allegiance in writing the gop, something the Republican National committee has never asked for before now. Now, as a billionaire businessman, trump, he, of course, could be called the king of contracts but the signature expected on this document today may be the scrutinized of his career. If he signs, he would the rnc he would not run as an independent. And this just in minutes ago. A look at where the race stands right now. Of course, looking at video of trump. Hes made a lot of appearances in the recent weeks and days. This is a new poll of Monmouth University and shows the trump with the biggest lead yet, 30 with dr. Ben carson closing in behind him at 18 . Lets discuss this with dana bash, gloria boar jer, a