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Question. Its very hard to say very difficult, john to find out about time on storing info my grands the v as in george started as a b cs, being german as something defined by skin colors of iceland thats being german means being white and those who arent white are essentially new commerce and dont have the same right to be part of society as white people. Um these guys have mention born in germany. Im a german native speaker. Im. Ive been to africa once in my life as part of a package tour. It doesnt get more german than that mountain come the to these people will of course ask me where i come from and i say from corpus or to and your mother, ill say also from comp us does not answer your question or do you still need that little piece of the puzzle that explains why look the way i do this in a cab, please. I will see you in britain, they say we are here because you were there, i think is where are you here because youre there. Yeah, i think thats a very important part of the answer on society here. Must take responsibility for what happened in its history with name was the desk was, it was the Pacific Pacific and now that we speak, amend, this is exactly the right moment to look black german history on the easy and how its always been a part of john long history and time and then the quotes and pods, reaching out, trying to check the sheets. The if the the brain on demarcos family is in its 5th generation in germany. The, these lovely odd sometimes the best fights with you see here a typical own gym and household. I start with the wood paneling and fabric wallpaper stuff to peter. As a business, you cant get a bit of snap shorter jim and my son that im in 18. 96. Her great grandfather, mundane got deep, became the 1st african to acquire german citizenship and humbug. Suspending amazing. Kaiser never tried to cuz he was known to be very loyal to the end product and very gentleman, George Chavez and my family for me has a long history. I no longer see on its back as it would pick. So it says on as the dc live, which means having experience or having survived a lot to and the survival part is especially important to us is the fact that even back then they full for the humanities to be recognized as on the theres of the state of tom at what became known as the berlin west africa conference in 1884. The european powers carved up the continent among themselves without african participation. Germany then also became a colonial power ruling over tow. Go camera room, german, east, africa and german south west africa. Even before the 19th century, germans had been profiting from the slave trade. Now columnist sees the entire territories, culminating in a genocide and the media in 19 o 4. Meanwhile, growing numbers of africans were arriving in germany. The probably akin is a british historian who researches the history of black europeans the. The clooney outside of sophistic for the interest in colonial period is important for the emergence of a black community. Asked them because it was the 1st time that hundreds, if not thousands of black people were able to come to germany. Of course on come con. Why do you send us fuel fishing the game for many Different Reasons . And several 100 people, for instance, were brought to over for the human zoos, the turret germany, or across europe in storage, some months small, cannot find out from their 1st appearance in the 18 seventys. These as an illogical expositions proved extremely popular with the european public. At the hanover, so in 1913, the opiates were hired as contract workers. They were put on display, often with their families. Visitors paid an entrance fee to see the colonists were committing genocide in africa, back home in germany. The middle class were being one over to the so called colonial adventure d e d. And these are exhaustive sizes ation. Romanticize ation. This idea of top, lets take the family to the soon, like we know today, note from, instead of looking at animals, we get to seek subject people as if youre open each month are going to accept these people when representing the own culture or communities, photos colton. Dr. Straight hoffman is on on um, it was a stage new mexico and then had nothing to do with who they actually was in foster dog instead. Boss, i just got it to human. Vicki hopkins, the, the 1st state organized colonial exhibition in germany, took place in 1896 in berlin, 106 men, women and children were brought in from german colonies. The photographs show how people were racially degraded and forced to be exhibited the plus builds. Does the dodge of the colonial authorities wanted to portray africans as less civilized, as primitive civil . Is he up . Those came up t owns inside an order. They wanted to use this image to legitimize germanys colonial project as well. Yeah, there civilizing mission. As kazi does a civilizing mission, to dodge and putting the germans, bringing culture and civilization to africans. Good. An awfully kind of the berlin was the capital of an overseas empire. The Colonial Administration needed craftsman, translators, and other specialized personnel. Young africans were brought over to germany for training, most of the men and drawn from the african elite. Some were still just the school children. Their parents paid considerable psalms for their education. The new arrivals called one another compatriots, but they were not for seen as a permanent part of german society, the in 1891 funding that he could travel to humbug from the wall a camera room. He came from a wealthy family and could already speak german. He then completed an apprenticeship as a shoemaker, the android to essentially he was expected to demonstrate his shoemaking skills in the big shop windows portraits feelings on the opposite side. And that made him feel like he too was on display name is which made him feel very uncomfortable, hooked up to a home at them. So in the end, he changed his profession and became a merchant assembly under vics for while traveling on business, deacons met a woman called in media. Interracial marriages were banned in the colonies for reasons rooted in racist ideology. But didnt get that. Then dancing and prussia, the couple married and had 2 daughters and always highly respected uh, fro German Family. They ran a store selling tobacco and other colonial goods. The lives of black people in germany would have little interest to most historians until catalina, a good toyotas work appeared. She was the 1st to research the stories of afro germans, including that of monday and a deep sea stone because i was astonished to discover that he was granted citizenship. Im to come up with, you know, because it was so early that there werent get objections from the Colonial Administration also. Couldnt yall have provide them house . But most of the people who applied later wherever ejected in would have this done for via got after the 1st world war, german imperialist expansion was brought to an end, at least for the time being. The treaty of versailles resulted in germany seating its colonies the at the same time, french troops occupied the rhineland. Among their rank sport african soldiers, which German Nationalist saw as a humiliation. They launched a racist smear campaign, calling the black shame that propaganda in turn fueled racism against all black people across germany into a far more dangerous form. The blood from the very start there was resistance. In 1919, germanys 1st black trained driver 19 the bobo and other people of african descent, listed their demands, and a historic petition. The f boss on tired davis pulse of the anti colonial resistance, which had always been the how does what is it got . There was never a time when black people didnt find, find, or stand up for the right. Because these few years i stood in because its to tasha a kelly as a scholar inactive as to as documented the lives of people who brought about change in black german history. Although martine depot, but had sworn allegiance to the weimar republic, she wanted to achieve something new with a petition. Equal rights for black people. 18 africans living in germany signed the petition to the german parliament, the divorce sent us. Youre awfully kind one to jo africans to have the opportunity to attend university or college auction. They wanted the board probably for personal reasons to the recognition, and some legitimize ation on average us between black men and white women, uh, on our tents, voted on like a team, vaughn warranty. But they also want the determinants representative of the problem. And type cop martine devota to be precise, to mocking to move as on the the petition failed, but it marked of the dawn of the 1st black movement in germany monday. And the date was one of the men who signed his name. Today those events are remembered on a commemorative pillar in downtown berlin testament, thats my great grandad agendas. I think its fantastic historical got his toilet. This must just keep now its such a good feeling to know that my great grandfather was also part of the fight to construct the. As the Roaring Twenties hit, germany black american dancer Josephine Baker became a celebrated figure on the stages of berlin. Extended this and the bus, they always call it the grass, skirt, air, and shrub black man, how to walk around wearing a grass skirt. Not a suit mixed with them on board number line and 192510 door. Vanya and the child was one of the few surviving black witnesses of the nazi era, until his death in 2019. As a child, he was put to work in the circus, and, and the so called human sues. He hated being docked at, or when complete strangers would run their fingers through his hair. Things got even worse with the introduction of the notorious note in bag race laws. In 1935 colonial migrants were stripped of their citizenship. Pandora vanya and the child was issued an aliens passport, and was rendered stateless. He lost his job at a hotel. The finding work became nearly impossible. One of the few exceptions was a niche market. The movies, the, the most expensive film of the nazi era moons, housing required many black extras to play servants and a turkish power. The the role conforms to degrading stereotypes that further the nazis racist audiology the young and say, i do ivonya me style play the sultans fanning. Boy, only later did he realize hed been exploited in dms, in a speech exploited in the sense that i never played a positive role. Bush of pussy t for the was only ever decoration, uncomfortable because they needed exotic people impulse to dx or they needed those. So today we know we were exploited as much misquote, the quote, the, the notion of White Supremacy was celebrated in many nazi colonial films. The regime had plans to re conquer former overseas colonies, clocks and nicely. Kara was one of many films to the great black people and use overtly racist dialogue. So those are not even a total of the events in this clip. The protagonist suggestions to the people approaching and says hes seen them before, quoted at the berlin zoo, afro german, after 4 routinely cast and such rules. The medicine man was played by louis brody, the grand father of abena, under michael manda. From you and my family and a large number of freaking people here, only survived the nazi era with this because they would need it for these gym and colonial fields. From 1939 onwards, daily life became increasingly dangerous for black people. The dks were among many families who lost their home and had their passports revoked monday and that these business went bankrupt. Interracial couples faced persecution. Around 400 children, fathered by black french occupying troops, worked forcibly sterilized. Many black people were forced to go into hiding. At least the 2000 were killed in concentration camps the fro, German Community was being eradicated by the nazis. What does do is workplace does this kind of design was to ensure that there wouldnt be another generation of black people in germany, even sort of more importantly, mia . That there would be no black europeans or p a gating disorders. In the wake of the 2nd world war, the allied Occupation Forces in germany included a number of black troops from the united states. The 1945 about 5000. The children were born to black americans, soldiers, and german women in west germany, into the 1950s. The children were still the subject of anthropological research. Lets let me try the outcome speech. So 1st thing in the future is very important to understand that this idea of so called races being unable to mix stem from earlier in colonial times. And this was google involved on think this was an idea that prevailed well beyond the 2nd world. Hold on even became enough. Suddenly it was the children of the allies that now caused this problem. Again, dost vida i might . Im opening doorstep right . Right on 96. Miss being in this archive will sound from 1950 to a west german parliamentary and use as a racist slower in reference to more than 3000 to by racial children. She says they quote, present a special type of human and racial problem. Even our countries come back, the conditions are unsuitable for them. And quote, hundreds of children were given up for adoption, mostly to families in the united states. This west herman television report from 1957 featured a single mother the lessons before leslie from that. And then he acute the sound that we can see if its the end of the gallons. And this is an illusion piece by piece. Yeah. On that, obviously mostly think your time to help you to see them. I was like, you know, a lot of the, you know, being cost. It was one of these children born after the war he would go on to become the 1st black man to play for a German National team. His father was an american g. I was, i was born here in georgia if you to be my mother is german. I feel german, honestly to me for us, for me playing for the German National team was the greatest. Im a doctor. And being close to the was born in munster, in 1946. His 6 older siblings were all white. He never got to know his father on his way to school. People would routinely give him the nazi salute. The countless racist remarks still haunt him today. The funny, it was felt absolute, hell, destruction says fall moments in even women. And when i go into a strong room and it may be misbehave a little, what theyd say come on black kid, how do i go back to africa . Definitely going to was that was how it was day in day out actually sojourn time. It was meant to be put in a home of it, but my mother refused to send me away. And honestly, she had got 6 white children, 6 and then a black one comes along to them. Yeah. So and people pointed, you know, to trying to figure out enough on football, offered a chance to escape the humiliation because of being close to the was good, extremely good. He played Center Forward in germanys top division the bonus league. And scored the goal of the season in 1974 for kickers opened by later that year he played for west germanys National Team in a European Championship qualifier in the hospital. But back home fans of rival teams continued their races to chance unabated miracle. Theres always been nasty remarks, trust me. You need to be pretty tough in germany sometimes. Thats why and there was a section in which all we shouted, 10 gays and one of the things a little under the media celebrated him, but always as an outside or one of them, the brown bumper to say could have written the bomber. And he also, im not that brown bomber. There always had to be something that last time you all can tell me the in 1990 close to the was wrongly accused of rounding an arcade. A football fan claimed to have recognized him from his skin color. There was no actual evidence to support the case. Cost to them was acquitted after spending 6 months in custody. The, i think i was the 1st black child to start school and cut bus and couplets had a population of probably 40000. 00 at the time. The just happens that, you know, i dont remember seeing a black person before it was scanned and trots mentioned because he, as i say, i didnt even know there was such a thing. So it must be done to the end of the boat was born in communist east of germany. In 1962, her father, a student from gone left the g d r. She was raised by determined women, her mother, and 2 grand mother. She was a very good student and was selected to be a School Crossing guard. List is amateur footage of the proud family. John saw it was, there was Something Different about me from but i learned that from others because it wasnt anything i felt myself. What i saw was they all play like me, i do math and gymnastics the same way they do yet. Something was different about me. And it was not something that was discussed at home. You just wasnt important. And you could see it. Yeah. Give me a 1000000 in the hotel. Oh, isnt one not in the mail finishing months if it was that was alabama. Angela davis angela davis became the face of black power in east germany. The american scholars, civil rights activist and communist was wrongfully imprisoned in the us until her acquittal in 1972. All right. Engine, this is angela davis had a huge impact on my life. Me, i finish it when i look at the photos now. The for look was all the rage back time and of course i had an afro and i wore glasses on, or wherever i went on the east somehow i was always angela davis. There was a political struggle taken up by the ged or that was good for me. What time do you mean . In the late 19 seventys, eastern germany recruited a growing number of workers from vietnam, angola, mozambique, and other fellow commune to nations. More than 200000. 00 people total by the time of german reunification. But they were obliged to go back home after a few years. And the authorities did not envision their broader social integration. Gabrielle, available in the world remains largely white one as well and some machinist for because i know they werent supposed to assimilate into not to go into the cloth. The Foreign Workers were housed separately from the rest of the population. So this one there. So it wasnt like you were suddenly seeing a black person in the supermarket or the swimming pool. A lot odd to this comes with whats in these 4 volts, studied medicine, and was already a qualified doctor when this footage was taken in the early 19 ninetys. She always wanted to be a guy in ecologist, but the local authorities stipulated that shes specialize in hi, janet care. Despite the country shortage of gynecologists at the time. Vailable protested, does a for loop to dispose of the selected it was because of my skin color, pussy young lawyer, but its going to be in your gynecologist means close physical contact with people. And while as a hygiene specialist, id be sitting in an office and basically out of sight. I said i could see absolutely no reason to not be working in my chosen fields or tessa. She took the issue to the next level, threatening to send a complaint to the east german head of state and east konica ya pharmacy products, which the upshot was 2 or 3 weeks later i received a letter informing me that they were happy to comply with my request because the city really did need more gynecologists call to also because i became one, the spanish expert now demarco grew up at the same time as gabrielle available. But in the other, germany, in west berlin. After jobs in paris and london, she started working for an international n g o. As a young woman in the 1980s, she wanted to become an optician and asked a friend for help in finding an apprenticeship. Yeah, and in kansas city at 6 know she was very embarrassed when i asked again whether she could find someone to take me on as an apprentice little name. Hold on this afternoon. She said no. Unfortunately, they told me, yeah, we know you, but people arent ready for black hands to be poking around in a white persons face and an advice and desist on for me on this one or 2. And it was a big chunk sydney shock for disease and very awkward for her to about as well as will are. They asked, it was the 1st time i realized it wouldnt be easy to do the job. I wanted them also include an issue of hon. Mister been under, michael wanted to stop feeling like a stranger in her own country and went looking for people who felt the same way. In 1985, she met a group of women connected to the american poet and career civil rights activist. Audrey lord, lord was a guest lecturer at the Free University in west berlin, who encouraged black women to discover their communities history and celebrate their heritage. The sizes harvey, im the lloyd, it was like a piece. Any of really good uh we were all there without. Shyness needs oh, experiences of desire as sadness, carson and so i was, it was great. I am. It enabled us to break house at that isolation, or is it let soon to chrome or isnt it soon . So come on in the sense of Community Kerry does somebody talk to inside the guitar. Yeah, i love that comes to us and im, it was like weve been existing in a room with no air conch status. And i felt when we met audrey lord, the African American poet, and she was simply interested in our lives. It would not suggest that we introduce ourselves to each other folks logged on to the world when the of it was flushed in this file is quite a big deal from miami as we were still very young. And it seemed close to of gaba and at the 1st meeting, they would be 31st and they would be very excited. Because to everyone, it would be the 1st time being in the group of ask on the african means people who have the same experience the same. Yeah. Who could, without talking about it would understand you the together with activist my i am contacting an organ toya and wrote a book called showing our colors. The project helped them to develop a positive self image. At the same time, audrey lord, urge them to self identify. As pro germans or black germans says, it wasnt important because until then stopped, wed always been objectified in society of the dental. And these are cafe. Shocked how people talked about houses cuz they did before. We were the subject of various political and academic debate and put me to show the business office. We kept the boston. Let me think this showing our causes project was the 1st time we were leading the narrative using such a political voice to oh, i know put me to assist it was the start of the 2nd black movement in germany with the founding of the initiative of black people in germany and later its Sister Organization a day for, for black women in germany. The 1989 saw the phone with the berlin wall in the time when many hopes for a free year, and a better life. The just over a year later, not long after german reunification, eastern town of eva as father made headlines. A model of more than 50 neo nazis attacked Young African contract workers outside the local restaurant. On the day on tonio, from angola was beaten into a coma with one of the attackers standing on his head on tonio died 2 weeks later at the age of 28. For you was instrumental as i do the looking back very well. I just feel really heavy to mail causes. El camino is being a colleague and brother who lived with us died more sane, just because he was black, our book, and then there was like his friend. Im a day on tonio. Youll never know the state in the country after the collapse of the communist regime. They both come to east germany from angola as contract workers and 1997. Both had hoped to study on tonia wanted to be an aircraft engineer. Instead, he ended up working at a meat packing factory. The con tonio fell in love with a german woman and was looking forward to soon becoming a father and building a family. On the day on tonio was the 1st murder victim of right wing violence and re unified germany. More attacks would follow in both the east and the west. Young. Im a new guy remembers the atmosphere back then by system it to me. Yeah. I 0 finish of what about me . Yeah. I so its kind of i so if i went out on the streets, that same thing could happen to me. When didnt moment vocalist for me, it was involved with a really bad time for us to whom is that and could was like more like ones of im doing more hasnt been. And we dont know when youre going to die. Find 2 steps or door when you lose a leg or an arm. So this is josie, meant to or we were terrified, buxton and devout fiancee, a gross good. It was around this in certain time that comes on and was born in the east german city of juno. Today he researches radicalization and is a social worker. The team drew up with the feeling that something bad could happen to him at any time to cease for music. Do you like to be that man . No detours for them. She will not go into the playground or somewhere else after school, but going straight home. If you met with friends, then at their home, is it possible i do you know some of these can when you met outside and then only very close to home or in groups . I would also does. You knew that every time you left your home, it was potentially dangerous. Is this putting certain feelings . As a young boy, he had no idea of the neo nazi and nephew group forming in his neighborhood where future members be out to shape up and move. And one, los attended the youth club on the corner. Somehow adam said that he was seldom truly safe. Ready the routine violence of the 19 ninetys may have subsided, but not the racism. In 2016 corner lot, adam was racially harassed by a group of drunk people, while on his way to the supermarket. He called the police for assistance asking they be removed from the Square Footage to stop this good while you got when the officer refused to come and remove them. So i could be able to, i tried to explain again, was why i thought that was necessary losses differently, but they were racially abusive. There might racially abuse other people that day do some talk with the pleasant calling on this to swing pots for violence models, least then the Police Officer said Something Like when i was after the same as youre just making a big deal about the color of your skin you help us get food, you like multiple hold, hold on like young black people of his generation in the former west, germany lacked the community and felt his was alone struggling the former east. But he changed that in 2018. He found that a local branch of germanys oldest Civil Rights Group for black people with only 4 people in the beginning. Today hes a member of the executive v i s d have had annual meetings for the last several decades. Calling about m 1st attended one in 2019 the original finish classes that i can succeed, was suddenly meal just going there. And seeing so many black people when they got married, seeing a completely different atmosphere, it was just incredible and unbelievably enriching. Partial the defaults and mentioned the some black people i know now one is cliffton who had already been to these National Meetings as children and say it was crucial for their own development. Um, you know, i can also tell you so to have the space full retreat and empowerment to home to know you have these awful experiences all year long and you can see all of you. But then theres this one period in the year was grouped on where you can reach, charge your batteries on which cough tide, immerse yourself in another world. And you know, im looking at it, im talking about the human rights to a life free of racism. Thats a key political issue thats motivated the community, who after compile, remember my childhood as being i full of life. I never experienced the time in refugee housing is anything bad nor did them select that image. People like to create that for me who was born there. It was completely normal house and i was at home. There were lots of kids, as it was only over time that i realized it wasnt a normal upbringing, police, you know, malice. Outbox is in 2019, i mean not that to hey, it became the 1st arrow german Deputy Speaker of the regional parliament. 3 years later, she became the 1st black state minister on that, im going to come from an early age, your minded up, the fact that you dont look like everyone around you. Theyre soft on task. Adults especially makes you feel that like there it seem to know where youre from a distance to a stomach stood with some boys, one or 6 or 7 years old and think i live here and you dont ask yourself all these questions about identity or ancestry. I have come to mean not to to say it was born and refugee housing after her parents fled molly in 1992. At the age of 12, she became a german citizen. As a student leader, she showed an early commitment to combining discrimination. Today as a politician, initialize the co signed state parliament she tackles Structural Racism and Public Institutions and society. Its me and tell us about your racist experiences. Im often asked. And usually i have absolutely no desire to do so. For 2 reasons. Firstly, because many believe that these experiences are individual. They start to, excuse it, and tell me their coincidences, coincidences that have been piling up for 26 years, which top off throughout the whole try dated so awesome. Miss julie, youre always talking about racism, but you yourself have made it the Deputy Speaker, the banker, and i think best of what does that have to do with the fact that at this very moment to pull someone somewhere is probably having problems with immigration authorities are being racially abused on the street, my heart will consist of providers to that of this class. Im look for to assist with attending that these issues are all fixed just because you have some individual figurehead is very problematic. So putting in motus today, one 5th of all germans have migration background. I mean, not until they encourages minorities to become politically active. Escape and can, thats where it is at the heart of the issue is the question of whos allowed to be part of society. And what does it actually mean to be german . So in the words of, i feel german poet, my young i, who instead of asking questions simply states it is that i will still be african line even if you want me to be german. And i will be german, even if my blacklist does not suit you, so that i will go get another step further to the very edge where my sisters and brothers stand before our freedom begins, is that i will go yet another step further and another. I will return when i want, how i want borderless and brazen. Thank you. The, the 3rd and 4th generations of an afro German Family have been on demarcos mother. Beryl was born in good dance in what is now poland, where the familys european chapter began. Even now at 82 years old, shes still sometimes confronted with questions about her roots. Yeah. Where are you from or do you speak german . What are you doing here any way about . What do you then say, a funny germany . Its 7. 00 shift is what i like the black engine, descendants of london. The deed showed that this was never a contradiction in terms of being under michaels daughter currently in london is now the 5th generation of the deep family. Its their history and its german history. The is habit of who does have the feeling that well be seeing more progress going forward. Then we did in the past. The city after the for the slow, but this with not going to let this reyes kind of woman and thats nevada. Were here to be a 1000, and theres no changing that. That was kind of income the we took care of all misleading. But should we, larry has been that the killer, you know, across our existence, genetic researchers want to eradicate dangerous to escape new technologies and generation mosquitoes that had male traits. Is that a good idea for 30 minutes to w a. The business lets me tell you the story. We have a, getting a visa is more difficult than finding gold hosted to use the sales force and for the present feelings about whats going on in the industry. Instead of being discussed across the continent, dw, and use africa every friday on the w. The. This is dw news line from berlin to night, lights camera button, no action, hollywood actors joined screen writers on the picket law. Its the 1st full day of a major walk out of hollywood, biggest labor fight in decades. Your members want better pay and protections against artist