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0 as long as the media focuses on the flaws, they don't have to face the bigger failure, the ideology they caught from campus. liberalism, bob. big government as a rule cannot accommodate the desires of the individual. only capitalism can satisfy choice and choice rules. have you seen the cold and flu aisle during the winter? imagine if the government did that? the marketplace bows to humans whose choices make for a good light. you're the slave to bureaucracy, a soulless cyborg that spits out one answer, try again. obama care would have been the jewel of east germany. and that's the point. it's like we looked at the policies of the world's losers and said, i'll have one of those. so i find no comfort in jokes about the website. it's only so we avoid the biggest joke of all, an ideology that denies universal truths about the human condition in order to control you. obama knew about that all along. it's who he is. for obama care is what happens when you look at the 20th century. instead of seeing come nichemco bloody rise -- i think that's the name of an actual course at columbia. >> that was really soft. >> it was a soft one today? you know when you talk about obama care every day, it's so upset about these glitches without actually accepting the greater fact. that it's the product of a larger, pernicious kind of thinking. >> wow. good word. >> it's all those liberal colleges putting these people out, all the communists. >> i realize what you've been doing the last couple of days. you don't want to talk about this. you don't want to eat this because it's bad for you. it's bad for democrats. but republicans should stay on it. it is this big, this bad. we're not making a mountain out of a molehill. this is that bad. this website, this plan, this law. and it's a colossal failure. failure of leadership. failure of management. failure of confidence all across the board. so republicans, do yourself a favor. stay on it. you know what's next after the website failure and they fix that? >> immigration? >> the next is cost. the cost of this thing. young people aren't going to sign up because it costs too damn much in premiums, in deductibles, in visits. the next thing they're going to have to do is say if they're not signing up, they're going to have to be taxed. so you're going to say, i'm not doing that, i'll take the tax. problem is, the irs can't enforce it. there's no power to garnish wages. >> nobody to pay for it. >> so then they're going to go, it's not 95 bucks. it's 495 bucks. and guess what, we are going to give the arrest the power to garnish wages. then it becomes a social medicine experiment. >> you came out of the box and attacked me right away. >> because last night i listened to you talk about the guy in the window, talk about in vitro fertilization. instead, what republicans need to do is stay on this. it's going to be too expensive. it's a big problem. that's why bob is diverting, distracting. because he knows it's really bad. that's why bad doesn't want to eat it. if bob doesn't want to eat it, it must be a stinker, let me tell you. >> okay, i don't want to get eric mad. so i'll just say i said this, i think we ought to delay it until we get it right. i disagree with you guys that i believe insurance exchanges make sense. the medical insurance industry has ripped this country off and doctors charge too much money. >> dana, what do you say to that? >> i say the american taxpayers just spent $684 million on a website that doesn't work. i think that is a rip-off of the century. they said okay, we're going to work together and push this. the republicans are actually going to be able to get behind the democrats on this because now you have at least three democrats who are saying let's extend the open enrollment period, but if you extend that, you can't penalize people for something they can't buy. get it over with. the press, the public, and in particular the congress, they're not going to let it go. >> that's a great title. bee for what's going to happen. you'll be dressed up as a little bee. another thing, when sebelius was asked about resigning. did we do this yet? >> would you consider resigning over this? >> i think my job is to get this fully implemented and to get the website working right. and that's really what i'm focused on. i work at the pleasure of the president. he is singularly focused on making sure we deliver on this promise. that's what i'm committed to doing. >> how many weeks has it been? this is sad. it's embarrassing. i would literally go on a staycation away very far and not show my face. i'm not trying to be mean. i just think this is a disaster. it's only getting worse by the minute. she should have some dignity. i don't know why the president doesn't march her off. people say, you know what, thank you for admitting this doesn't go well. he's the one that's the most frustrated. >> have somebody else go in without -- >> push aside the promotion. >> they're going to fire somebody. >> who, bob? >> it should be her, because ultimately -- >> she built it. >> you want to do something smart, republicans? another little piece of advice. give them a date. if that website isn't working by, i don't know, november 15th, she goes. or someone else goes. or we take it over. and we hand it off to someone that can get this thing done. because this thing ain't going to be working -- >> you ought to become the chairman of the republican national committee. >> this thing could be six months down the road. >> i've read you can't tack this on. you've got to start over. rubio had a proposed bill which he talked about on this little show called "the "o'reilly factor"." >> what the big would basically one of the things about sebelius and calling for her resignation, even if she does resign and even if this is delayed six months, the fundamental problems are still there. i think what they should be most mad about is the political appointees at the white house were extremely reckless with the president's signature achievements and his legacy items. it's not just bad for president obama, it's bad for liberalism if this doesn't work. >> who put this together? >> are you bringing that up again? >> why is he always the last to know about everything? he was the last to know about the irs. and then nobody's more mad than him. actually, the citizens are really mad. >> they don't tell him anything until the mainstream media, which is the last to point out that he does anything bad. >> the program itself did exactly the right thing. >> bob, you know this is bad. >> i think the delivery is bad. >> but if the delivery is bad -- it's good in theory, but it just >> what went on last night, you see it on tv. liberals are trying to talk about anything but obama care on the website right now. that's why you need to stay focused on it. you want change. 2014 will bring change if you remind them this was a bad idea. >> i think we should talk about the world series early. a new embarrassment for the white house after it discovers the identity of a serial tweeter who has been sharply critical of the administration. it was an obama senior staffer. are these kids? what's going on? anyway, we're going to tell you who it was and what tweet got him sacked. he tweeted about dana. >> and it wasn't nice. >> the freakiest tweeters in the world. >> i know. you've got to check out our facebook page at facebook.com/thefivefnc. >> way to sell it. your heart was really in that.