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Submissiosufficient admissible e to prove the case beyond a reasonable doubt. As of right now, we have it. Im not gonna speculate about the other officers. They are under investigation. I anticipate charges but im not going to get into it. Dana that comes after rioters raged across many applets for a third night, this time setting fire to a police precinct. Minnesota governor activating over 500 National Guard troops as the city braces for a fourth night of protests and just breaking come of the minneapolis mayor issuing a curfew order for the city starting tonight at 8 00 p. M. We have the team. We have greg gutfeld, jesse watters, lawrence jones, Geraldo Rivera and greg gutfeld. Geraldo, we havent had a chance to hear from you yet on this. There was Development Today with the arrest and then the back and forth. The president also a moment ago when he spoke about george floyd and whats happening in minneapolis, he mentioned that he had spoken to the family. Said that they were terrific people. Earlier today joe biden said hed also talked to the family. Lets get your overall thoughts on todays developments. Geraldo thankfully the officer involved has finally been charged. Many will think hes under charged, if anything. Charged with murder in the third degree or the alternative manslaughter. Manslaughter is the lower one. If the death inflicted is reasonably foreseeable but not intentional, could be manslaughter. Depraved indifference to human life, that is murder three. Clearly officers showed guilty apparently of depraved indifference to human life. Murder two, i think the critics would argue would be more appropriate. Murder thats not premeditated. I think what the officer did for over 8 minutes, keeping his knee on the neck of this poor man. Clearly this was the kind of reckless and depraved conduct that would justify a murder to charge. Why they waited for days to charge him, thats a mystery to me, dana. When you have the videotape available as soon as this happened on monday, we knew that the officer did something that was absolutely intolerable, taking this mans life. Even if you didnt intend to kill him, clearly he mustve known, this is a trained, hes a security guard, the cop, hes been around a long time. Veteran of many years on the forest. He knew that putting the knee on that guys neck, if not to kill him, to render him braindead. I think protesters will not be quieted by this charge, although im happy that the state has come around now and finally have accuses officer, arrested the officer and accused him. They can always hike the charge later but right now its murder in the third degree or manslaughter. Dana lawrence jones, we were able to talk to you a couple days ago and the question was on the forefront of your mind, where was the charge or at least holding the officer until the charges were either going to be filed or not . Lets get your take. Lawrence i think thats a separate conversation and we need to have when this is all said and done. As the prosecutor put out, when charges are brought against a Police Officer, its much different. It can take up to eight months to a year. In that specific county. If theres a larger conversation when it comes to getting those statements of probable cause out when he is dealing with an officer because its definitely less different and we are talking about a private citizen. Geraldo talked about the third degree murder charges, some of the critics. I spent some time going through this statement of probable cause. A lot of things are alarming to me in there. The number one thing is that another officer, officer lane, he tells the officer, chauvin, that he has some concerns. Of course the defendant pushes back. Then another officer takes the post and then after he takes the post, in this report it says he still stays in the officer says he didnt sign any post install after this he stayed on his neck for 2 minutes and 43 seconds. It is alarming to me that the prosecutor was not able to find intent and malice after this. Geraldo present a great case for going back and forth. I think legal scholars will go back and forth on the information that we had before. But after an officer takes the post and you stay on his neck, restricting his airway for 2 minutes and 43 seconds after, i think thats clearly a case for the second degree. Dana im glad that you read the report. I had not seen that. 2 minutes and 43 seconds, if you think about how long that actually is and if you were to set your watch and look at it. Its obviously a distressing time. Greg, the innocent people there in minneapolis have also been hurt, in addition to george floyd, by looting and arson. We saw some people today, Business Owners out there trying to clean up. I am probably the only one in america who likes and 8 00 p. M. Curfew. Id love to be home and go to bed early. Do you think that the curfew will help them tonight . Greg i hope so. I wish there was more outcry over the rioting and looting. I dont think we are seeing enough of that. I want to pose a question. How did this Police Officer get arrested . It took a video to do it, which is what we are learning is one of the only thing that works followed by outrage. That worked. That got him arrested. Could that have happened without destroying 170 businesses . Did we have to go that far . Could we have tapped on the brakes . We do is in the media, we looked at this and we sat there and reported dryly and we call it a protest. We understand the outrageousness of this crime. You can be repulsed by a rotten cop but also rioting and looting. Those thoughts can rest in the same brain. Clearly action was needed because justice was not served when you see that video. You know that justice wasnt served and theres something about minneapolis law enforcement, theyve got to deal with it. You wonder, could you have approximated this goal with the video and the protests without the carnage . The 170 destroyed businesses . Im not a lawyer. Geraldo and lawrence are better at this diane black i wonder if the under charging is on purpose because every time its better to under charged an overcharge because the overcharge is often harder to prosecute. I dont know. Dana important point, the District Attorney said we have to be able to prove beyond a reasonable doubt. Maybe that was the thinking. As geraldo send come the charge could change. Jesse, lets hear from you. We are a couple minutes late here. Jesse they might bump up the charge they investigate and find out this officer knew floyd in any way sort of personal situation. I am hearing things that they might have known each other. In a professional capacity. We are going to look into it. That could show. If you take someones pulse and you keep the knee on the next 2 minutes after, he mightve been trying to finish the job, if you know what i mean. The other thing, there is a philosophy when youre in charge during a riot. He sought to baltimore. Let it burn. The philosophy is, these people in the community are so angry, thethey are so outrage, in so mh pain, you have to let them blow off a little steam. If you come immediately day one with the riot police, its going to cause more death. You cannot do that for longer than 48 hours or else you just destroy a community. They are burning down their own businesses. Its dumb. After the second day, its just dumb. I understand youre angry but now its just stupid. So the curfew is good but its a friday night. Whats that going to do . Even if it was a thursday night, no one is going to work. Its a pandemic, its kind of a lockdown. I dont know what the curfews are going to do. Im sick of one thing, though. I am sick of donald trump trying to fix the mess and a democrat city and him getting the blame for it. He came in and brought the department of justice in. He offered the National Guard to help quell the violence. Now hes getting hit. These things are happening these democrat run cities and he gets blamed for trying to fix it. This country right now, in such a tinderbox. You have racial riots during a pandemic during a recession during an election year. I dont think this country can take that much more. I hope cooler heads prevail. They charge this guy and they do something with the Police Department in this city. Hopefully they can heal. My heart goes out to the family of floyd in this community i hope we can all come better people as a result of it. Dana we are going to talk about some about politics coming up, because joe biden blasts President Trump over the unrest in minneapolis. Well talk about it after the break. Usaa was made for right now. And right now, is a time for action. So, for a second time were giving members