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and i wouldn't count him out. i think what's tracting hattraco this race is no one democrat has emerged and you're dealing with someone in michael bloomberg who was told it's impossible before. he was never supposed to be mayor. you know, one of the only reasons he was mayor is because of september 11th. and the city really in a crisis looking towards steady leadership, towards steady financial leadership as well. and that really created an opening for michael bloomberg to step on to the stage. frankly, i think he is an example. the you love him, hate him, no one's really indifferent about bloomberg. it's an example of somebody who is kind of an average guy in some ways, an average joe stepping up to the plate and, you know, becoming kind of an extraordinary american figure. >> wow. okay, ozzie, does his running as a centrist predispose -- what's

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