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but just to say, i don't do that anymore. it's kind of a long process. it's not like you just leave it one day. you're like, well, i'm glad that's over. i had been out of the movement before i got connected with these guys, but i was on my own and didn't talk about it and had a lot of buried shame and guilt. and then i met these guys and i saw, you know, frankly talking arnold talk, it helped me get past that barrier of feeling like i had to hide this from world. that opening up has really just taken my, my viewing process and my allusion to a whole other level. really, you've gotta find a way to find an affirmation that every discussion, no matter how bad it feels, it is going. you've just got to be able to acknowledge like takes guts to do that. try to help them discover the abilities that they have. this is why we don't want to foster dependency. this is why the intervention can't rely on my christmas. they go from being untrusting, hateful, spiteful, distant, to begging for more interaction. another phone call. another meeting in a tell me poor, and don't be surprised when they say that's the best conversation i've had in a long time. that is something that's very routine that comes out of people just want to be listened to. and we're trying to teach you how to listen to them. well, we hold a mirror up so the person can see their humanity reflected back at them through our eyes. but when we treat them as human beings treat them for the suffering person that they are, and they, on the receiving end of that, they get to see that, hey there's, there is a human insights. and that's the, i think, the incredible power of compassion. it was very impactful when someone finally came along with no fear, no judgement, she heard my story. i did nothing to challenge it but validated the soon as i started talking about, my mother tears came off. i just spilled my guts about everything she had done to let her brother raise me and my sister denied the rape happened making the school back around. how many times she she tried to kill me, broken bones, bruises the starvation, the sleep deprivation, the humiliation making me swallow my own. my brothers and sisters watching is turning my brother against me. keep my sister away from me like i had never had a chance to just unleash solid. and i probably went on like an hour of just the stuff she did to me. and he says, well, i want to ask another question. have you ever done this to anyone else? it just in that moment it was like i'm just like my mother me what really changed me was receiving compassion from the people that i least deserved from when i least deserved. people knew who i was, it was a small town. they knew what i was capable of and what i'd been doing for 8 years. and they didn't attack me. they didn't break the windows of my store, and then argue ideologically with me. they came in and they were empathetic towards me. and they treated me with compassion, despite the horrible person that i was at the time. the body might offer me a job carrying in furniture at cherry hall in jersey law for weekend 3 days, 100 bucks a day. and i told him, i said i'd take the job. he was going to tell you, before you say yes, the guy who owns this company is due and i said, i don't care and i've talked to him, do i want to work for 6 months? i still think it was in the nazi chief would fit every jewish stereotyping or religious wearing alligators and i don't bring them right or you know say where i broke the marble top table and i was like, i'm so stupid. i'm so sorry. 7 bowers frame. so i so embarrassed i did a rate for the customer, but he just bought it off of very drove me home. i was waiting for him to fire me. so actually, you know, but i remember him when not too much on that day. and i just kept my boots on a little seat of his trunk that you couldn't really put him any further than i were . and my knees were hurting so bad because it's trying to hold him up there. so for the whole ride home swastikas looks at him every day because normally you nazi and i just wanted to see my boots pinion with him, boots and they did for me. they dropped me off and they were full pay. take anything on my pain monday and i was told and i just can wait. just pretend things on my feet. everyone back. i'm not scared. i wanted him. i'm done with it. i'm fluid. it's there's 2 parts to getting out of a violent extremist group. the 1st part is disengagement, which is where you leave the social group. you leave the behavior you leave, but you probably still have the ideology. you've been given this nice recipe for how the world works. and you take that away from somebody and then what do they have, right? they, they were looking for an analysis and you've taken away their analysis. so you know, what's left drugs, i mean there all kinds of things that they can just sort of fall into. so you have to be very careful about it and when you're bringing them out, you will learn them to the risks. this isn't going to be easy and they're going to be people are angry that do this because they've lost someone. they've been better at the time and energy and we do debriefing. you know, if you're going to be on the outside, we need to know everything you know about how it works on the inside cuz you're not going back in. so we're, since we're going to burn those help you burn those bridges. so you can't go back and take everything away that was associated with that world. we take away your white laces. we take away your nazi fly because it's too easy to go back into. the next part is d. radicalization where the belief systems in the audiology are removed or you can't go to go get an anti mental from cobra for a couple weeks. may get the rates at the same time. it's a bit bigger. that's how they do it. we're right. the anti van on the main because we have, we had that man, i'm in our so we not spew it and we know how to also make it an empty metal. and we had the answer. so i do believe the secret sauce is coming from a loving place. you can't hate this person and expect to communicate any of that. you can't judge this person and expect to calmer, that with empathy before you got out what was what was pushing you to want to get up. i wrote jackson, you know, before and after prison or you know, most of my best friends, but it's like, ok in prison. you know, like, you know how you have to be so you pretend to be it. and after a while, before you realize that it's scary, is you actually become that image. you were just training. i had to myself every day for getting myself locked up. so when i looked at it, what made anybody else more special than me? so i have so where does that shift come from? how come you one day you went from? not thinking about that to really saying i need to start making some changes is why she wasn't much longer up and it was hard. and every time watching the same level on the family because i can be out there, the brothers didn't like that when they found out because they could just let me know when they do, said they, you know, try to kill me. why now? i get shot. go off the road and you know, i'm going to come tunes his race car breaks the brakes and i remember slicing. child car is like i said, yes, this is good. you need to is mad right across. and then we inside the school and open this. i up, i'm trying to get out and just to get on time if there was one thing that someone stuck in that life in that life who may not be aware that there's a way out. what would you say they go all the hate that hey ruins you poisoned your very soul man. and i left him a lot of human misery since really during the summer in 2000 and teen, we started to see a significant consistent increase in the number of incidents reported to our office . we saw between 20152016. the number of anti muslim, hey groups tripled tonight. every i walking into whether have crime charges will be filed against him, alleged white supremacists, accused of stabbing to good samaritans to death on a commuter train. in portland. the guy who did that was someone who had been in the fringes of the all right, movement, the enemies up on their way. the country are great on there that we hear that all the time. go back to where you came from. and he just amped up that rhetoric that he wants to take his country back. and so that's that, that's the theme that runs through that. and we're not going to let people come into our country destroyer. i saw this guy running for president doing the exact same thing and i couldn't believe that i was hearing it, but i knew that it would work. and that was the frightening thing because i've seen it work on a klan rally and stone mountain georgia. i saw that kind of rhetoric where people are yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. what do we do about it? their culture. i don't want to know about their culture. if you want your body, you could just go back to much, much bucket of gasoline was kicked over and lit up all those little sparks and already existed into a large forest buyer. part of donald trump's huge appeal was that although he does not think in terms of race, the way i do, he at least thinks in terms of nation, he recognized that the united states is a nation with a particular people. and that not everybody belongs here. this is a great relief to millions of people who have seen their nation transformed in the name of diversity diversity that always comes at the expense of white people. he spoke to some, you know, some of the things that, that angry white male wants to hear. we're gonna put a wall on the border. we're going to make the mexicans pay ford. we're going to bring manufacturing jobs back as a kind of populous messaged white males, combined with racism, that was found to be very attractive and everyone's premises like that idea as well . those are thousands or tens of thousands, there's hundreds of thousands of them that have an intellectual curiosity and an understanding of national socialism that pro skin had ever had. there was a price you paid if you were a public with you or being a tree or anti semitism, it didn't serve you well in your career. your friends in your neighborhood, really burnt, excited to hang out with your kids might be embarrassed of you. your parents would be really upsetting you and people learned that those attitudes were not going to be beneficial to their life. i think what we're concerned about now is that blanket and then we put over it, is being pulled back. that it's going to be really hard to put that back where it was. ah, what he's got to do is identify the threats that we have. it's crazy even foundation, let it be an arms race is often very dramatic. development. only personally, i'm going to resist. i don't see how that strategy will be successful, very difficult time time to sit down and talk ah ah ah ah, i'll look forward to talking to you on that technology should work for people. a robot must obey the orders given by human beings, except where such orders at conflict with the 1st law show your identification. we should be very careful about artificial intelligence. and the point obviously is to create truck rather than fear a job with artificial intelligence. real summoning with a robot must protect its own existence with ah, there was a state of emergency in florida. it's a white nationalist, was about to take stage. 3 and day university of florida is breaking for potential violence today to speech by white national later richard spencer, who the protesters gathering outside the site of the the only reason my to say. but i will say that back to the all right. read the notion that they really were that way to find a stage spencer trying to do the noise, the kid with a with so a who's with this guy is guys going to get killed that here? so my, i got, i got this guy coming. hey, people who say, oh is all love we hey, hey hey. hey, love these same people. dad happened a mess with hey when i post randy, you know, i came home. i don't want to talk to you, you know, understand you. he will go no problem. the whole time, we couldn't really have a discussion because the camera, you know, you people pushy, i get done with what was it was to find more, really intimate. and you know, i don't know if i'm talking to me like really and i guess our intimate setting was force known as we were both keep out. so we encountered some police officers, they were treating randy how they would treat me on a regular day. you know, just awful what they perceive by his, our parents end up one arrest in. yeah. and i wanted to say right, this magic got beat on spin. are usually the sped on the back. is it usually it mouth was. what is he doing wrong? why you haven't been, sit on the ground, do this type of stuff. so we actually started walking and talking and we found out we have things in common, you know, eyes and his views about certain bay. it was certain style and both. yeah. he was telling me he got involved in his teenage years in the air you nation. and that's just how a lot of my friends the different people get involved in the blow to cripps in different games they joined. that's what's around you. so whatever the around you and your friends may be involved or whatever. 6 happens your my say is going to be on that. so for me, i just saw the similarities of what my culture would deal with just in a little different way. there's no, there's nothing new up on it assign. it was just a different route. they angry, white men angry black men to different the angry black man is angry because he has no home, has no vision, no way to provide angry white people specially low income because they have so many mental role models that you can just turn on the tv and see success. i mean, that would be deprived too if, you know, down at the bottom with black people and they've got a reason. i mean, you know, i'm white. what am i know? is it easy to see the thing around? and you know, when you're talking to the doctor, you know what, better way to focus at anger that these people people different color. i just say that white man cuz he's angry because he doesn't really understand with oh no, that america. he doesn't even say i got the way out for the blessed waiting to hear back. i mean, everybody. that's why it in america has benefited. give me answer that color or suppose they miss or miss busy right now, given me or help me, i got somebody to understand that just massive me what my culture as a whole and look it differently just because of my individual encounter. every weakness and 23 times a week. that is least due to time phone calls, you know, our phone calls. and we've, ours, me. i mean, when you think about what you've done, just in the last month, the turn around the correction, the what you've abandoned and what you would opted it's most people can't even lose 10 pounds. they want to lose much less make an entire mental, emotional and lifestyle change to humanize, which allows them to humanize your like that, that's not rocket science, but yeah, it's, it's evading. the majority of the country right now. there's a lot, i could, i could never look at anybody in engineering and brotherhood a nation. anybody got a lot of on the same why i got free and that was part of his narrative and changes his narrative. not that we agree with anything that comes out of the far right. so we don't ever forget that there are people inside that most people, but you know that there's a human being inside of this person, right. and we just choose not to forget that you don't really see x not seeing that you know, have a lot of dialogue as we do. but i mean, i can consider him a friend. i was glad that i could have that effect on randy to open his eyes up to see then you know something a c. whatever may have been introduced to him or told him was proven to be a last day in madison. but tell me, i think we often think about this and terms of the ways in which they are failing us. they are bad men. they are floating away from us. they are deviant. and i think we need to ask the other question. also, we need to ask the question and how we are failing them. what kind of ways can we keep them in the center? and part of my answer to that is we have to find ways to keep them validated as men . it's really amazing when people feel more whole quickly and easily ideology of hey, falls away. and if you can reconnect them to the people that they hated, helps know that i'm them. these are that they realize that they're actually a part of the solution rather than contributing to the problem. the 1st time i've ever felt accepted any shape or form from anybody is actually with y after have another p 5 med just recently. i feel as if those is to grade, so i want everybody to know the human being here instead of like mission touches. but i have person to be able to have the different cultures and different people here. religion is going to be able to close this to be able to interact because it teaches me that, you know, we're, you know, all in this together. this is a part of our emotion, and farmers are, are evolving into a powerful force. me and justice quality, love, peace, compassion. we are operating as human beings from one of 2 places. here are, let me get to choose which one that is still happening in the days following boston happened. it was such a turn out and seemed at a mortgage support for countering that narrative of white supremacy. it really flooded me with hope. i am proud that i can be a voice against what i used stamps or i thought i have something to bring to among the bigger and better things. while i'm still mindful of what i owe to society. but no one's better served by my guilt or shame at this point, including me me . ready i fired a r 15 and a glock at this time on monday, and you need to communicate with them. and they've got an automatic weapon. it's running $8478315.00 and every available unit in any long. and it's going to be on the ah ah ah, now it's showing wrong a to see how this thing becomes the advocate an engagement. it was the trail. when so many find themselves worlds apart, we choose to look for common ground. i'm rick sanchez and i'm here to play with you. whatever you do not watch my new show. certainly why watch something that's so different opinions that you won't get anywhere else. welcome to please or do you have the state department to see a weapon makers, multi 1000000000 dollar corporations, to your fax for you? go ahead, change and whatever you do. don't watch my show, stay mainstream, because i'm probably going to make you uncomfortable. my show is called direct impact, but again, you probably don't want to watch it because it might just change the way you oh, hello, i'm manila chan. you were tuned in the modus operandi. the political lexicon gets a re brand traditionally called a cood, a car. now coined regime change, but the deadly results remain the same. this week will examine the anatomy of a qu. what's it look like? how does one develop and who is most often to blame for the former us marine corps intelligence officer, turned un weapons inspector, scott ritter. shed some light on the issue. all right, let's get into the m o me . i said tomato, you say tomato. i say coo, the u. s. government says regime change when one party or group assumes power by force, that usually leads to a lot of bloodshed, whatever the word game that's known, the world over as a crude, a top. but in the age of social media sensitivity and kindness in recent years.