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of the might have beeners are sharing their emotional stories with natalee of what they went through. she'll be joining us in just a couple of minutes. also coming up we'll be talking about some shopping. >> when it comes to buying something like a car how do women not be intimidated and feel comfortable with that? but not necessarily with cars. >> or running water. >> it was a mixed up video, because we're also talking about lowering our cancer risk. >> it's okay. regular exercise, smoking, staying away from smoking, eating right. those are the things you think of normally for the front line defense of cancer, but there are some other things that might surprise you, that will help you lower your chance of getting cancer, from the way you cook your meat to the water you drink. hence that video that we ran. >> it's always good to have a big glass of water before you go out and try to buy a car. >> because you start dancing around. >> and they're thinking, we got to get you out of here. tamron hall is filling in at the news desk. >> the 33 rescued miners in chile are beginning to open up about their 70-day ordeal under ground. natalee morales spoke with them. >> reporter: it's been a weekend of celebrations and homecomings, but also a time for some very difficult adjustments. i got to spend some time this weekend hearing their stories and as you can see, they're very much haunted by what they have been through. just four days out of the mine, victor and carlos are seeing the museum now open in honor of the 33. what's it like for you to now see these images? >> it's like being there every moment i ask them to show me where they are in the photo of the 33. the first break through, what was that moment like for you? it was very emotional. as you could see by my smile, we knew something good was coming soon. victor escaped his prison in the poems he wrote. he shared them with his 32 brothers and now with me. physically, they're okay, emotionally they have a long way to go. when he became trapped, i screamed, we're not going to get out of here, i thought of my kids. it was very painful. desperation set in during those first 19 days. although discovered on day 17, it took two days to get them food. they were dying and they knew it. i think for my part i survived because of god. all have said they felt god watching over them, he was the 34th. they even wrote farewell letters to their families. i delivered myself, i wrote two letters, they stayed below in the mine. what did you say in those letters? i told my wife to take care of my son and to give him good values but i also told her to live her life because she's a beautiful woman. they missed their families, they missed celebrations, victor turned 34 under ground. above they threw him a party. together but so far apart. finally day 69, the capsule arrived. carlos was the 13th. for him, it was a joyride. he first saw his dad and the light of day. victor was next, he said his rebirth was like a rose about to bloom. up top, he reunited with his angel. did your life change a lot, carlos? yes, it's like we have lost a part of ourselves, we still don't feel whole, we're not 100%. but the men are beginning to open up. this weekend, they were on chile's version of "the tonight show" and i was invited to join them. i also spent time with their families, a homecoming party that lasted well into the morning, for the oldest of the miners, 63-year-old mario gomez. but for the miners like carlos and victor, what seemed unimaginable to us is their very life. you're going to go back to mining knowing the risks? i'll go back, it's a passion, we're miners, we're proud to be miners. it's a family. some of the video you saw was licensed by nbc news and amazing they wanted to go back to the mines now. because as of tomorrow, they won't have to. one of chile's wealthiest businessmen is going to offer them $1 million each, still they say that was money they would rather not have, given all that they have been through. saudi intelligence officials warna a potential attack by an al qaeda group against europe, france in particular. "the wall street journal" is warning that names and friends names have been being tend to advertising. the issue even affect people who use restrictive privacy settings. among the popular applications, farmville. let's get a check of the weather. >> it also makes you go see the movie the social network. we have got a weak frontal system from the east almost to the west coast. so we're going to have scattered showers and thunderstorms, nothing major today. we're looking at an upper level low in california. some rain around the upper great lakes, plenty of sunshine, beautiful weather through the southeast, with low humidity, lots of sunshine, temperatures in the 80s, partly cloudy throughout the pacific northwest, clouds here in >> we are off to a quiet start on this monday. it should make it into the mid- 60's this afternoon. late in the day, possibility of a few light rainshowers. and now to "today's" health, an every day way to reduce your cancer risk. according to the national cancer institute. more than 11 million people in the u.s. get it and you can lower your chance of getting it. good morning. first of all, nancy, we're going to talk about some of the things we don't normally think of. but what are some of the basics that we need to be doing? >> the basics that bore people to death, you can't smoke, you have to eat a reasonable a lot of food from reasonable places, and exercise. if people did those three things, it could reduce the cancer evidents. cigarettes are the only product that when used as directed will kill you. >> not a good thing. for those of us who like grilling meat, the first thing you aukt ought to do if you're going to continue to grill meat, marinade it first? >> chemicals are formed when it is seared at very hot temperatures, so what we like to recommend is that people really do things smart. for instance, adding spices like rosemary and thyme to their marinade and soaking it for at least an hour before grilling. these spices are very rich in ant ox dabts. it's a great thing to do. >> even if you marinade it and add the good stuff. u you create those chemicals and that's the cancer causing chemical. if you want to sear something to hold in the juices, that's one thing, but once it gets charred, it's no good for you and your risk of cancer of the esophagus and stomach goes up. >> is there a limit to an amount you should be eating? >> you shouldn't eat it more than three times a week. >> and to snack on brazil nuts. >> brazil nuts are an incredibly great source of sell less than yum. -- if you eat a lot of selenium, it lowers your rick of bladder cancer in women. and you have seen some of this that really indicates that a high blood level of selenium there's lower cancer levels. and it also prevents the formation of blood vessels that can nourish tumors. even the good nuts have a certain amount of fat in them. if you love nuts, i count them out, i really do. at the end of the day, they're calorically dense, they have fat, but it's good fat. >> what i find interesting, you say when it comes to drinking water, you should use filtered tap water instead of bottled, why? >> what has happened is that there was a recent report from the president's cancer panel on how to reduce your exposure to carcinogens, in fact filtered tap water is better than bottled water in some cases the quality of bottled water is no higher and in some cases worse than water from municipal sources. >> i think the whole bottled water thing is a hoax. for regular old water, most municipalities in the united states have extraordinarily good water. and you can find the standards on the epa website. but if you want to pour it into a filter in your refrigerator, great. but everybody just needs to chill and order water in a restaurant like normal people. >> this one's interesting. >> there's a actually a solvent that's used in traditional dry-cleaning that can be linked to certain kinds of kidney cancer. >> what about the environmentally safe dry-cleaning? >> the epa are not going to tell you not to use traditional dry-cleaning. >> in the old day it was benzine and it was people doing the work and they were getting kidney and liver cancer, for most of us who take the occasional article to the dry-cleaner, that's not the risk. >> the really green greens. >> what gives the green greens their potency is the high level of potency. >> what are we talking about. >> we're talking spinach, broccoli. >> the more color you have in any vegetable, the better it's going to be. >> and president bush is still doing well. >> and still taking a lot of heat for that too. >> he's allowed. >> from broccoli manufacturers of the world, unite. >> thank you so much. still ahead, the smart woman's guy to buying a car, we're going to show you how not to get intimidated to get the best deal. and he dropped a third of his body weight. we're going to check out his amazing results. mmmmmm. mmmmmm. wow! you have got to be kidding me. 80 calories? light & fit has 80 calories versus 100 in the other leading brand. light & fit. irresistible taste. fewer calories. i love light & fit. amateurs. that's why this savvy santa locked up all the hottest gifts months ago with sears layaway. four affordable payments and no finance charges. so everything's taken care of... including me. twizzlers. the twist you can't resist. discover customersl are getting five percent cashback bonus at restaurants. it pays to switch, it pays to discover. 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"today's" woman is brought to you by aveeno. the beauty of nature and science. >> this morning on "today's" woman, getting a good deal on some new wheels. women love to shop and get a bargain, obvious. but research shows, when it comes to buying a car, not as confident. carmen wong elrich is here with some tools you need before you walk into a dealership. it's amazing, women influence 85% of auto purchases, but we end up behind the ball, behind the curve. >> if i were to tell you, let's go to a car dealership today, wouldn't you rather go to the dentist? it can be a very painful experience because we're intimidated because most car legaler ship ee eer ships have. we're used to haggling with women but not with men. >> a couple of my sisters went. >> you can avoid a lot of that at the first point of buying a car, which is haggling. that's the part we don't want to do especially. >> you have five tips with haggling. you say go online and get as much information as possible. >> that should be your first stop. edmonds.com, autotrader.com. you want to make sure that those cars have the numbers. you can look the car up, make sure the car hasn't been in a flood or has any damage. but once you find the car, you can haggle the price. haggle through e-mail and print that out and head to the dealership. you don't want to give them any time to be able to say that was yesterday, this is today. so within 24 hours, go in with that price. >> so preown eed options. >> own vintage. this is a certified preowned car. certified preowned cars are backed by the manufacturer, they have up dated warranties, they have been gone through and checked through. a cpo is going to ensure you you get a good car. when you drive a brand-new car off the lot you're losing about $5,000 or $10,000 instantly. wouldn't you rather have that money in your pocket? maybe somebody drove the car a little bit before you bought it. it can have a couple thousand miles on it for a much lower price. >> separate your deals. what does that mean? >> there's three deals. let's say you have a car you want to trade in, that's one deal. you have a car you want to buy. the price of the car is the second deal. the third deal is the financing, negotiate those three deals, you have a chance to save money on those three deals. >> what about trading in their vehicle? whatever happened to that dealership? >> here's the thing, some of us would rather save the time and the effort of dealing with a private sale. you would rather just trade it in. that little bit of money is actually worthwhile to me, i would rather lose a little bit. this is a way to make things easier for you, just know that it has a little cost. >> and what about financing? you have got tips on how to handle that? >> you can go to the dealer and get dealer financing. go to bankrate.com. especially with a great credit score and get free quotes as to what you can get for financing. if you can get 5% and walk in with a cash check, you can get a better price for the car. the dealership can add on a couple of points for you to pay it. >> do you take someone with you? because when i have gone in to buy a car, my personal favorite thing, let me go talk to my finance manager, i'll be right back. and i'm sitting there, more afraid by the minute. >> but if you follow these tips, you don't have to go to the back and talk to your finance manager. if you want to bring someone along with you, but if you've got that check in your hand, you don't need anybody else. >> and your sister, this idea was distorted. a couple of my friends, i coached a lot of ladies on how to get their cars. this is a way to do it so you don't end up leaving sad. >> i want to new car smell. and for more car buying tips, go to todayshow.com. how do deal with the queen bee in your family. we're talking about mother-in-laws. and we'll tell you why the international superstar was questioned by canadian police. 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harris was the only one to vote against cleaning up toxic waste sites. he always sides with the polluters, one of the worst environmental records in the senate. and harris was the only one to vote against extending education for special needs kids. no wonder his republican colleagues think he's too extreme. we can't afford his extreme ideas. i'm frank kratovil and i approve this message and that is one of the film's most iconic and emotion al. >> john travolta's danny mazuka. now the singer is out with a new collection that's racing up the charts. it's called grace and gratitude renewed. we're going to hear a little bit later on this morning. >> no kidding, right. >> i'm here with al roker and msnbc's tamron hall. you're going to be talking about relationships. >> particularly relationships with mothers in law. more than half the women in a new ivy league survey said they would rather stay home and clean the house than spend half the day with their mother-in-law. >> we lampooned a lot of pop culture and a reflection of what is true in some cases. but we have got advice on how to banish the monster in law image and how to have a healthy relationship with your husband's mom. >> when my son gets married, i'm going to be a mother-in-law. >> and oh, boy. >> it's not about the mother, the woman and the daughter, i think it's about the son and how he -- >> are you taking good care of my child and all that stuff. >> let's just do the segment now. >> okay. >> we're moving on. justin bieber. justin bieber was -- i'm going to keep going -- was questioned by police in canada, after a 12-year-old accused the superstar of hitting hill last week. it was actually jane fonda. we're going to have the latest. then in "today's" kitchen, we're going to make one of those comfort dishes that adults and children love. shepherd's pie. i have no clue. you only need one pan to clean it up to make this thing. >> one pan? >> one cleanup pan? okay, your mother-in-law will love it. >> let's get a check of the weather, al. >> let's check your weather. let's show you what's hatching. for the week ahead, above normal temperatures around much of the country. midweek period, we're looking at below normal temperatures. and the latter part of the week, we have got cool weather in the great lakes and showers and below normal temperature >> as we head through this monday, expect a mixture of sunshine and clouds. later, the possibility of a >> and that's your latest weather. coming up next, how to improve your relationship with your mother-in-law. it does not involve getting rid of your husband. you don't need a rematch, but a rethink. with lunesta. lunesta is thought to interact with gaba receptors associated with sleep. lunesta helps you get the restful sleep you need. lunesta has some risk of dependency. when taking lunesta, don't drive or operate machinery until you feel fully awake. walking, eating, driving or engaging in other activities while asleep without remembering it the next day have been reported. abnormal behaviors may include aggressiveness, agitation, hallucinations, or confusion. in depressed patients, worsening of depression, including risk of suicide, may occur. alcohol may increase these risks. allergic reactions such as tongue or throat swelling occur rarely and may be fatal. side effects may include unpleasant taste, headache, dizziness, and morning drowsiness. stop fighting with your sleep. ask your doctor if lunesta is right for you. get lunesta for a co-pay as low as zero dollars at lunesta.com discover a restful lunesta night. 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>> no. whenever there are triangle, especially when you have a parent and a love, that is a very natural, normal competition that's been set up. we talk about it all the time. but i think it's ramped up now because people don't tend to work at relationships so much. so they kind of expect -- >> let me bring in you, i love that you had an online poll to see what women really think of their mother-in-law. >> this is an issue that our i village community is really talking about. women are venting about their mother-in-law. she's coming for thanksgiving, what am i going to do? more than 50% would rather clean their house than spend the day with their mother-in-law. 30% jury duty, 20% would rather get root canals than visit the mother-in-law. while we know this is a charged and complicated relationship, we were even blown away, why people would rather do these unpleasant things rather than visit their mother-in-law. >> do you set up boundaries? >> it can work and i think it really is about the communicating. but not just between you and your mother-in-law, which is important. so as things fester, you should really talk to each other if something is bothering you, you should set up some boundaries. >> some women would say it is up to my husband to deal with his mother. he's known her longer than i have. >> i think partially, that's true. and you can let the husband be passive and it just suffers between the two of you. you say honey, this is your mom, when it's down to brass tax here, you need to be the one to say, this is how i feel, mom. >> a large majority wouldn't want to talk to their mothers in law about marriage, or even sex, as they should not. >> the real corker is that women would. >> more than 50% would trust their kids with their mothers in law. so that shows that they know that they love their kids. >> or that they know that a grandmother is a very important person in their child's life. and that is true. you should try to make the effort, even if you're not crazy or fond of her, this is an important person in your child's life and it's an important person in your husz's life. so you want to have some flexibility so you can make that happen. y if you let her come in and rule the roost in those kinds of ways that make you upset and resentful, it's really going to deteriorate. >> this is one of the messages that was put on the i village website. i've been married for 23 years, i have an ongoing rocky relationship with my inlaw. how i do possibly manage to get past this. they are so self-absorbed, it's not even funny, my mother-in-law even cuts off my husband every time he calls her because she has to do things with her ore son. it's to the point where he doesn't even want to talk to her. >> i would say that if i they went in and said that we want to have a talk with you without the kids around and we want to talk about the fact that we do value the relationship and that it's important for the children and you're going to miss out and we're going to miss out. let's back it up a couple of steps, what can we do to try to make this enjoyable for you and for us. >> can you repair a 23-year relationship that' rocky? >> you can repair any relationship, but it takes a lot of work, a lot of forethought and a lot of desire. >> and maybe different locations. >> thank you very much. interesting conversation. and for more on this topic, go to todayshow.com and visit the i village community. >> justin bieber involved in a fight in canada. introducing anew platinum. an avon breakthrough. the first with paxillium technology. it's designed to help restore cell shape... skin looks more contoured...sculpted... re-defined. even your jaw line. anew platinum does it. and only avon has it... with a love it or return it guarantee. want it? get it. call 1-800-for-avon or go to avon.com to find a representative today. and these are the ones you'll love on a tuesday. pillsbury crescent dogs, with just a few ingredients, you have an easy to make dinner. they're crescents for the other 364. try them tonight. they're crescents for the other 364. get fall's lowest prices sin every department.! find lowest prices for your yard and home. and lowest prices on fall's hottest styles. plus an instant $10 off your apparel purchase. lowest prices are here! sears. aveeno hair shines in real life. new aveeno nourish plus shine with active naturals wheat smooths damaged cuticles for 75% more shine in one use. real shine, for real life. yours. 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harris was the only one to vote against cleaning up toxic waste sites. he always sides with the polluters, one of the worst environmental records in the senate. and harris was the only one to vote against extending education for special needs kids. no wonder his republican colleagues think he's too extreme. we can't afford his extreme ideas. i'm frank kratovil and i approve this message and i'm investigating what makes aruba so happy. oh my word, that's fantastic. ♪ row your boat gently down the stream... ♪ i'll tell you what; it's not aloe vera the main export. it's happiness. i haven't even got bait on the end of mine. i don't care; it's just nice sitting here. you're getting it. you're getting it. this morning in "today's" kitchen, one stew that comes through as hearty and healthy, the recipe is straight from the america's test kitchen healthy family cookbook, a new healthier way to cook everything from america's most trusted test kitchen. good to see you. where did this get its name? >> shepherd's pie? no shepherds were injured in the making of this pie. this was what shepherd's made with leftover ground lamb. this is a healthy cookbook and over 800 recipes for really healthy eating. a lot of them are just drained vestige vegetables. it has to taste good, who cares if it's healthy? so we're going to make it have a third of the fat and just as good. we have a little canola oil and a little bit of butter. then we're going to add the beef. we're using 95% lean beef, and that means you don't want to brown it. when you brown meat it gets tough. most people in america are more likely to use beef. but you use a very lean beef and just cook it until the pink goes away. and once that's done, add in some flower for thickening, and garlic and tomato paste. you have to boost up the flavor because 95% lean isn't as flavorable. then start adding more flavor. worcestershire sauce. chicken broth is a good thing to use. >> you wouldn't use beef stock? >> chicken stock had better flavor. and beef stock, they didn't like as well. but here's the best. this is beer. >> dark beer? >> you can use dark, you can use light. it has good flavors, makes up for some of the flavor you're missing from the fat of the hamburg hamburger. this is your base all ready to go. and while that's cooking down, you're making your mashed potatoes. mashed potatoes get all their flavor from cream and butter. we still use some butter, because they went down from six tablespoons down to one. so u you have to have the flavor. this is lower fat sour cream. we tried no fat sour cream, but it wasn't good. and the same thing, lower fat, 2% milk. mash that all up, and when you're done with it, you have something like this. >> what about the peas and carrots. >> just before you put it into this thing, you have some corn, peas and thyme. we tried putting in as many vegetables as possible. vegetables are naturally healthy. >> and then just spread this on the top? then you put this in the oven? >> you put it in the oven and you end up with this. which is lower fat shepherd's pie, it's a one dish meal. all you have to add is a salad and you're ready for dinner. >> what about dessert? >> for dessert, we brought -- this is light and fluffy chocolate moose, which has one-third the calories of the usual chocolate mousse. >> i'm going to tell you to taste it. >> we used an italian meringue and substituted that for the whipped cream so it still is creamy and rich. >> there's three kinds of chocolate in there. >> thank you so much. great cookbook. coming up -- >> we have been mesmerized by the chocolate. >> i didn't think about how no shepherds were injured in the making of this pie. bob ehrlich says he wants to fix maryland. but he increased state spending by record amounts. ehrlich raised $3 billion in taxes and fees... including property taxes... and a 40% increase in college tuition. and now he's made over $1 billion in new promises... with no plans to pay for them... except for cutting education. cuts that will lay off teachers and increase class sizes. that's not a budget. and bob ehrlich's not the kind of leader... we can trust. >> live, local, latebreaking. this is a wbal-tv 11 news update. >> good morning. i'm tony pann. just a few high, thin clouds. probably picking up as we head into the afternoon. there is a slight chance you could see a few showers develop in the northwest. as we head into the evening, high temperatures in the mid- 60's. 60's. a few scattered