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And its got the boys striking out. Another strikeout. Meet mone davis, the middle schooler who made Little League world Series History and the cover of Sports Illustrated. But the overnight sensation still has another surprise in store. The nightline 5. Dont tell me how to think dont tell me how to act good evening. Tonight were going inside a conception controversy thats got mothers and families pitted against each other. For many couples surrogacy can be their path to parenthood. But it can cost tens of thousands of dollars. A big business that some are now saying is wrong and maybe even downright dangerous. Heres abcs linsey janis. Why cant you tell me how much money you were paid . This woman, jennifer lulls on a mission to put an end to surrogacy. Empowered women empowered women can say empowered women can make their own choices. Reporter Tracy Bullard is standing up for surrogate mothers everywhere. I take the position we shouldnt be doing this. Reporter jennifer lull is here in minneapolis screening her latest documentary, breeders a subclass of women, in which she argues that the surrogacy Industry Needs to be stopped. Women are not breeders. Children are not products and commodities. You know, women are not easybake ovens baking cupcakes for other people. Reporter her documentary features women who have deep regrets about becoming surrogates. The first time they picked up the baby and brought him over to my side and just held him up. Ive never seen or heard from him since. I think about him every day. Reporter lahl is a mother of three, a former neonatal nurse, the president of the conservativeleaning center for bioethics and culture, and she holds a masters in bioethics from a wellknown evangelical university. Some of your critics say that your views are based on your religious beliefs. Yeah. Because thats an easy card to play. Because then the people say, you know, shes this, shes that. But i tell people all the time, im against surrogacy. I dont care if youre gay, straight, single. Reporter lahl accuses the multibilliondollar Global Industry of concealing the health risks for prospective surrogates and equates it to selling organs. If you want to be a kidney donor, we say thats wonderful. But you are not allowed to be paid. We say no. Because what happens when commerce enters in is people will make decisions that are not in their best interests for their health. Reporter lahls antisurrogacy position is quite controversial, especially since children born through gestational surrogacy is on the rise. In fact, surrogacy has had some highprofile attention, from Nicole Kidman to Sarah Jessica parker and ricky martin. All using the method to expand their families. A couple spend their entire lives wanting a child and not being able to have one just kind of resonated with me. Reporter tanya prashad, a onetime surrogate mother, supports lahls argument. Back in 2003 she was the surrogate for a samesex couple using her own egg and regretted it instantly. And then when she was right there in my arms all those little pieces of paper that we signed just kind of fell away. I never thought about her. I never for a Second Thought about what was right for her and what she deserved. Did you feel guilty . Horrible guilt. And shame. Both. An even mix of both. You felt like someone whod given their child away. I felt like someone that sold my child. Reporter even though she signed away herr legal rights, tanya worked out a deal with the childs parents that shed still be involved. What was your understanding of the agreement . That i would have a baby and shed live with them but id always be a part of her life. Theres not another mom. So i would the plan was for me to still act in the capacity as her mom. Reporter but she says thats not what ended up happening and over the years tanya fought to keep a relationship with the daughter she gave birth to. So then we ended up in court and we actually agreed on a joint Custody Order together. Reporter but lahl believes its not just the mothers. She says the newborns suffer too. The fracture of that bond can have significant damage. Shortterm and longterm. Is there any actual evidence that its harmful to the child . Theres a study that just came out last year, and that study actually showed that these children around the age of 7 had some behavioral, some developmental problems. These are peoples lives that are being formed now and were going to ask to study it after the fact . Shouldnt we stop and really look at what were doing and say what is in the best interest of children . Reporter that study shes referring to is by researchers at Cambridge University and it showed higher levels of psychological problems for surrogate children at age 7 then the Comparison Group of naturally conceived children. However, those children showed above average psychological wellbeing. And the study showed differences disappeared by age 10. I think we have to be careful in interpreting this data and laterally not throw the baby out with the bathwater so to speak. Reporter dr. Jen ashton says were really just beginning to understand the impact of surrogacy. I think the people who have concerned about it really need to reserve judgment till a lot more longterm data is known. Reporter but tanya believes her 10yearold daughter is still overcoming issues stemming from being born this way. Shes got a lot of insecurities and a lot of fear. She needs a lot more reassurance. She needs that extra pat, that extra hug, that extra everythings going to be okay. Reporter that cambridge study also tells us that there are likely raised levels of psychological problems for surrogate children at age 7 because thats when they gain a better understanding of how they were born. And they have questions. Im a product of a traditional surrogacy. Reporter like jessica kern, who says she spent her entire childhood in the dark, wondering why she looked so different from the woman who was raising her. Eventually discovering her biological mother was the surrogate and went about tracking her down. I know exactly how much she earned for delivering me. How much was it . 10,000. You believe she was motivated by money. You cant say thats not motivating. I think one of the most important things for people to remember when they talk about unconventional ways to become parents today is a lot more goes into being a parent than biology. Its very important to remember that. Because people can get very, very emotional when they talk about these types of issues. The medical ones are straightforward. The social ones get a little trickier. Empowered women can say empowered women can make their own choices. Reporter but even with all the evidence lahl cites, shes still got her critics. Why cant you tell us how much money you were paid . Are you not sympathetic to couples who are infertile or to samesex couples that cannot have their own biological children . Im incredibly sympathetic. But just because somebody cant have a child doesnt mean that i have to say by all means, any way you can get the child is fine. Theres a long step between i cant have a child and what are the ethical ways to fulfilling that need to getting a child . Reporter for nightline im linzie janis in minneapolis, minnesota. Next, shes got a new single and a new sound. Wi what taylor swift has to say about her musical rebirth with shake it off. 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And the haters gonna hate, hate, hate, hate im just trying to shake, shake, shake shake it off shake it off who were you telling to and whats your message in the song . The message in the song is a problem i think we all deal with and an issue we deal with on a daily basis, that we dont live just in a celebrity takedown culture. We live in a takedown culture. People will find anything about you and twist it to where its weird or wrong or annoying or strange or bad. And i think that for me writing this song was partly about my life but its mostly about the things that i hear from my fans in these comments on instagram and facebook and twitter and things like that. Theyre dealing with the same things im dealing with. Their bullies are posting things about them that arent true on facebook, whereas mine are sort of like in the grocery aisle like when im checking out. But i think that you have to you have to not only live your life in spite of people who dont understand you, you have to have more fun than they do. I like that. Thats a great way to look at it. Reporter the reason behind the catchy album title . I was born in 1989, and for me this is sort of a almost musical rebirth in that its my first pop album. Its a big change. And its a change that im really excited about. So i decided to name this after my birth year. Reporter swifts career has evolved from the early days as a country star singing about teardrops on her guitar. Heres the reason for the teardrops on my guitar to more mainstream hits like you belong with me. You belong with me you belong with me reporter but this album fans will see a whole other side of taylor. Shake it off shake it off and you say this is your first pop album. Why did you go pop . You were more country. You went a little bit country. Now youre a little bit pop. Not a little bit rock and roll. Or a little bit both. I feel like for the last two years theres been sort of a sonic evolution happening and ive been experimenting more and more. And i think you have to follow just this intuition, this gut feeling as a songwriter, you just want to write a certain kind of music and you dont know why. And you can either challenge that or you can go with it. So i just did what felt naturally to me. The only choice we have in life is to change. Reporter in addition to embracing change, swift is not afraid to let her fans see her with her hair down. Often posting candids on social media, reaching nearly 50 million fans. We all see how important girlfriends are to you. And you love to post pictures on instagram, social media. And youre with people who are also in successful creative endeavors. How do you choose your friends . I choose my friends based on people who i have things in common with or people who challenge me. Honestly, i think that theres something really inspiring about being around people who know what they want, people who are passionate about something. I think that it doesnt matter eo are aring i th tha b snteeswt i future will come in the form of constantly providing them with the element of surprise. My exman brought his new girlfriend which xlnexplains why you se very different taylor in shake it off. You like to surprise, not necessarily shock. Yes. Thats something i talk a lot about too. Get out of my head. Stop it. I do talk about this a lot because i think the element of surprise is what we want. Its what we long for. We want to be surprised. And i think that shock is a different thing. I think with the element of surprise you keep trust intact and i think with the element of shock you run the risk of your fans who thought they knew you sit there they sit there and go, well, what is what . Like but i thought i knew her. So to me that is not big priority. Shock is not a big priority. I really want to keep evolving sonically and keep growing up year by year, one year at a time. Im 24 now. I love that. You talked about the everincreasing interest in the private lives of musicians, you that dont think thats ever going to go away. Thats the one thing that may actually get worse. Does writing songs about your life help you in a way confront that . People are curious. The element of human curiosity is never going to go away. I just try really hard to have the right outlook on it. As far as the career that ive chosen, ive been very honest about the fact that i entrust my fans and also the rest of the world who dont understand with the insight into what im actually going through. And somehow to me having the people who get me, really get me, makes it easier to take when other people dont because i dont really care about them because i have you. 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A girl with a fearsome arm has just made sports history by pitching a shutout in the Little League world series. And did i mention she got a hit, too . Now 13yearold mone davis is gracing the cover of Sports Illustrated. But get this. Shes not ready to just settle for baseball either. Heres abcs john donvan. Reporter there used to be a putdown you heard a lot more in the old days. Throws like a girl. Well, mone davis is a girl. And, um, well first strikeout of the game. Reporter she throws pretty good. Pitches clocked at 70 miles an hour. Major league pitchers throw upwards of 90 miles per hour. And helping her team the philadelphia tannee dragons into the Little League world series where shes become the first girl to throw a shutout in world Series History. Its over. A complete game for mone davis. Reporter allowing just two hits and striking out eight boys. She hits, too. A runscoring single in her most recent game. Hes going to score. Mone to second. Reporter which is not all about her, of course. She is the first to say that. I dont really like all the attention because this year like everythings about me and they dont see the whole picture of my teammates. And without my teammates i dont think wed be here right now. Reporter attention . How about the cover of Sports Illustrated this week . The first Little Leaguer ever, boy or girl. Yeah, that counts as some attention. And she says that she saw her twitter account jump from 2,000 to 15,000 followers in just a couple of days. All of this catching her by surprise because shes only in the eighth grade. I never thought that id be a role model at this age. So it was kind of shocking to me when i first came down to watch a game, there was like a crowd of people. I was like kind of nervous, but then i was like excited for it. So i just have to just be myself. Reporter shes been playing baseball since she was 7, along with a lot of other sports. I was playing football, and i was tackling the boys and i was throwing spirals. Thats when the coach came up to me and he was like you have to play baseball. I was an outfielder and then i started pitching at 8 or 9 and i wasnt the best but i threw strikes. Then my arm started getting stronger and stronger. So i started throwing gas. Like my fastball started speeding up. Reporter shes known for keeping cool out there, which makes her kind of a team leader, one who is already thinking about college way down the road. Uconn maybe to play basketball. Different game. So if you want to watch her throw . Gas, better get out and watch her throw now. Another strikeout. Reporter for nightline im john donvan in washington. Go, mone. You can catch mone in the Little League world series tomorrow night on our partner network, espn. Thanks for watching abc news. World news now is coming up soon with overnight breaking news. Tune in to Good Morning America tomorrow. And as always, were online at abcnews. Com. Good night. Every day more americans choose abc news. Americas number one news source. Music videos, michael jackson, prince, madonna, the intro to hiphop and bboys, baby, break dancing, your trans am, rubiks cube. Its millionaire by the decade, and today were traveling back to the 80s, and it starts right now [dramatic music] yeah [cheers and applause] what up, baby . What up . What up . What up . What up . What up . What up . What up . What up, everybody . Whats up in here . Yeah [funky electronic music] whoo yeah hello and welcome to millionaire by the decade [cheers and applause] yeah. Today all of our trivia comes from the totally tubular 80s. I mean, i love this decade, and so did our first contestant. Now, let me set the scene for you. The year was 1983. The movie flashdance had just hit the big screens, and instantly our first contestant was hooked. She got the feeling. [laughs] and she knew she had to become a professional dancer. 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