their theories. >> the big question, and i think, jeff, you said this, a reward would be pennies on the dollars. >> exactly. why isn't there a reward posted? a reward would be pennies on the dollar for what this search is costing. >> thanks for joining us. good evening. it's 11:00 on the east coast. 11:00 a.m. in malaysia. we begin with several pieces of information. item one, the search zone is focusing on the southwest coast of australia. item two, investigators tell us the path it took, the path caught on radar suggests the rout was preprogrammed to hit certain navigational points. item three, the fbi is examining
data from the captain's home flight simulator. we have a lot to get to. first, because these developments have been stacking up day after day, i just want to take a moment tonight to try to get everyone back on the same page with what we know so far. it begins on the morning of the 8th, flight 370 takes off from kuala lumpur bound for beijing. the final stream from the acars data reporting system is received on the ground at 1:07. then at 1:19, the first officer utters first round, leaving malaysian air space, telling controllers, good night. two minutes later, the radar transponder cuts out or is
turned off. thai military radar is following it and between 1:21 and 1:28 a.m. detects that left turn back toward the west and south. at 1:30 a.m., air traffic controllers lose contact with the plane. acars transmission does not happen. this what is believed to be flight 370 is tracked way off course. from there there's no solid information. we only know according to a satellite ping received at 8:11 in the morning, investigators say the jet turned north or south and flew into those two huge arcs of territory in open ocean. investigators now are focusing closer on that southern route. we'll talk to a u.s. navy commander involved in that. a major development, one that everyone hopes will bring badly needed answers.
more now from kuala lumpur. [ speaking foreign language ] >> reporter: a mother's grief and frustration finally boiling over. relatives of the missing passengers today storming into a normally subdued briefing room, demanding answers. after about five chaotic minutes, she and others are dragged out by malaysian officials. the malaysian government says they regret the incident, but the reality is neither they nor anyone seems much closer to solving the mystery of what happened to flight 370. could a clue be found in the pilot's home flight simulator? malaysian authorities say data
from the simulator was deleted on february 3rd, more than a month before the plane went missing. the fbi today saying it has sent a copy of the simulator's hard drive to its forensics lab in quantico, virginia, hoping to recover the deleted files. the malaysian authorities also disclosed a tantalizing detail. they have new radar information about the plane's path, provided by another country. what exactly it shows the malaysians aren't saying. meanwhile, operational crews are beginning to narrow their search, believing it's more likely the missing jet traveled along the southern corridor, away from the heavily pop populated asian continent. investigators say they're focusing on an area roughly the size of new mexico, about 1600 miles off their southwest coast, using what information they know about currents and the plane's possible last position to make an educated guess on just where it might be. >> we are going to talk to a u.s. navy commander in that region. kyung lah joins us.
you were in the room with heart-breaking pleas from relatives of the missing passengers. are they feeling that same frustration, that sense of just kind of anger? >> reporter: that anger and anguish, yes. that's felt across all nationalities, all the families here. and while it is a mystery for the rest of the world, for them it's very much about the loss of human life. this mystery about what's happened to fathers, sons, mothers, daughters. but as far as what that other woman said, calling the malaysian government liars, we haven't heard that from the people who are malaysian citizens. because frankly we haven't had any access to them. as far as the chinese families, they absolutely feel that across the board, we're hearing it out of beijing and here. they don't believe the malaysian government has been transparent at all. they feel they have botched this investigation.
the government for its part, anderson, saying that the best way that they can help these families is to simply find the plane. >> kyung, appreciate the reporting from kuala lumpur. later on in the program i'm going to speak to the family of paul weeks who was on the plane and was on the way to a new job in mongolia. he's an engineer. he actually gave his wedding ring and watch to his wife in case something happened. i'm going to talk to his brother and sister about that. i want to bring in evan perez breaking the navigation story for us tonight. some of this can get really technical, evan. just to start with explain exactly what a way-point is and what is significant about this information we're getting. >> think about your gps. you can enter longitude and latitude in your gps to try to direct you, navigate you to a particular place. now in the sky for pilots, they also have to include altitude. so essentially it's a place in the sky where a pilot can direct -- to direct an aircraft and the computer system on board
the aircraft to take the aircraft. and so the navigational systems on the plane essentially uses these five digit codes to direct where to take the aircraft, anderson. >> so explain the breaking news on this tonight. what is new that we now know? >> well, one of the things that we've been wondering is how the investigators know that the aircraft deviated from its course. we know there is some radar. but how can they know with certainty? we know that the investigators have discovered that the aircraft went to two specific way-points away from the course thought was scheduled to go towards beijing. so what they believe this indicates is that whoever was doing this, whoever moved the aircraft off its scheduled course, specifically was directing it to these particular way-points. again, away from its scheduled course. >> if it was being manually flown it probably would not have headed to these way-points, is that correct?
>> that's the understanding the investigators are looking at. now when a pilot normally turns an aircraft using the yoke, they feel if somebody was manually turning the aircraft it wouldn't specifically go to these particular way-points. so they believe this indicates perhaps that someone with some skill, someone who had some knowledge, entered these way-points for the aircraft to go to these particular places. and then of course it disappears. it doesn't answer the final question that we all have which is who did this, why and where did the aircraft go after it disappeared, anderson. >> and when were these entered in. evan perez, appreciate it. this seems like evidence pointing towards human intervention. the question was it pilots doing their jobs or someone up to no good? with us former cia counterintelligence expert and others.
i'm confused by these way-points and what the significance of the idea of having these two way-points is. can you try to explain it? >> a way-point really is a definition of the route in the sky. >> that's something that somebody would enter in. >> absolutely. >> but two particular different ones? >> we keep going back to there were two particular way-points. i don't see where those way-points came into play on this. i see the airplane might have been directed toward them. as a matter of fact, i looked on an en route chart to try to find the way-points that allegedly they turned toward. i still contend that the way-point they were headed for was a diversionary airport and specifically entered in by the captain. that's conjecture. i may fall on my sword on that one. but i don't see where the acars machine could actually -- i know through our dispatch process where they would know exactly what was put into that machine.
they just don't know. that's not information they utilize or is helpful to them specifically. >> and jeff, the fact that this pilot deleted information from his simulator, you can look at it with a nefarious interpretation of that or he's an organized guy. he's cleaning up his files. what do you make of it? >> we only have part of the information on that. in order to determine whether it was nefarious or not or benign we need to know the other part. that is were there other flights on that simulator that he didn't delete. so in other words, what's left on the hard drive of that simulator and what is absent on the hard drive of that simulator. if only selective routes have been taken out of it, only a portion of his experience on the simulator has been deleted, then that makes me raise my eyebrow and says i find it difficult to find a benign explanation for that. >> les? >> i understand your point, jeff. but the way i'm looking at it is from the standpoint of maybe there was a flight that -- pilots are organized people.
and they feel that maybe the hard drive is going to take too much room and they delete a particular flight. but on a humorous note it might have been a profile he might have been practicing for his recurrent training and just a profile because this is not the kind of thing you can really do. but he may have deleted it because he was embarrassed it didn't go well or something to that effect. >> it's open to interpretation. mary, you've been involved with the fbi in these investigations. are there circumstances where they couldn't retrieve the data because now the fbi and quantico willing be looking at it? >> yes. in circumstances where they can't retrieve the data is in instances where someone has erased it and knows how to do it effectively. you don't just erase you overwrite it or destroy certain things. you have to not just erase it but take extra pains. that too might be very interesting to show how they have overwritten it or erased it or deleted certain things. when i was inspector general we worked aviation crimes with the
fbi's aviation crimes unit. and we many times had to recover computer data. they were pretty good. so i would bet on the fbi. i think they will be able to get whatever was on there. i just have to believe they're going to be able to see what those files were. unless -- and i would be surprised to learn this -- unless this erasure was so good and competent it wasn't just erased but overwritten. >> how complex an operation is this? might it take weeks or months? >> i don't think so, anderson. you're talking about hours and days rather than weeks and months. they've got a tremendous capability. but remember just as in this case we've had countries who have been reluctant to share with us their radar information because it shows what their true capabilities are, the united states if they have information that tells us well no good will come of it, we can't help those missing by releasing this in such a way and show our capability, they may not do so.
i would hope that they would err on the side of getting that information out there. but we too have to protect our capabilities. >> mary, you raise an interesting point. that even if they can't find what the information that's been overwritten, the mere fact that information was intentionally overwritten can be meaningful. >> it depends what the erasure is. i guess i have to confess this. all of us who have flight simulators, you want to land, try to see if you can land. most of us don't do it successfully. but you want to try to see if you can land at the weirdest places on earth. you want to see if you're really good. so just flying around the earth and seeing different places might not tell us much of anything. that's what you do with -- like a microsoft flight simulator. where they went, what was there, what wasn't there, what's missing, the pains taken to take it away, if anyone else was on the flight simulator. all those things. i'm pretty confident if it's there to be gotten that the fbi will get it. they're just so good at it.
>> jeff, the fbi is also we're told analyzing the copilot's computer. you see a number of sort of cumulative acts, operational acts. what do you mean by that? >> what i mean by that, anderson, is nothing significant in the crime or terrorism world happens without some planning, casing and the act itself if you're going to be successful. those are the operational acts that lead up to a major incident or terrorism crime. rehearsals on the flight simulator might be interesting to go back and see what other routes had this chap captain flown in the months and weeks prior to this particular incident. >> on the simulator you mean. >> or in real life. what other trips has he taken. why as a senior captain did he bid -- the airline people will know what i'm speaking about that he bid this trip. was this a good trip for a captain with his seniority or was this kind of a dog of a trip but he bid it? that could raise questions about
okay, there's not a good reason for him to take this trip. there must be something else afoot. >> mary, do you agree with that? >> yeah. but there's a really important point, too. he makes a great point. because just flying on the simulator we can all fly weird places on the simulator. but you would have had to have gone there to make the contacts. because what's the point of knowing how to land someplace if once you get there you can't do anything with yourself, with the plane, with the plot. so there has to be more than that on the computer. there has to be additional contacts. by the way, since it was the copilot who spoke last and whose voice sounds normal, what we also want to know is much more information about him and is this how he spoke to air traffic controllers? other people who fly with him need to provide a lot of information about him. he's the only one we know that's living and talking when the turn is made. >> again, though, mechanical anomalies is still very much at play for investigators. that's something we're going to look at tonight as well. jeff beaty, good to have you on. mary schiavo as well. les abend will stick around.
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>> we have put every resource we have available at the disposal of the search process. there has been close cooperation with the malaysian government. and so not just ntsb but fbi. anybody who typically deals with anything related to our aviation system is available. and so our thoughts and prayers are with the families, but i want them to be assured that we consider this a top priority and we're going to keep on working. >> and chief among the hardest working people on the planet tonight members of the u.s. navy's seventh fleet in that southern search area off australia on the ocean and above it using aircraft that can detect almost anything. 26 countries involved. cooperation according to the commander is mostly good. though indonesia has refused to allow a number of search planes to go through the air space.
commander marks joins us now. commander marks, i know you can't comment on reports about indonesia not allowing u.s. aircraft to fly over air space today. but i want to ask you on this southern route, to you is that the most hopeful? is that the most important area to search now? >> i think you just have to look at the areas that have been least searched. so we first covered the gulf of thailand. we completely saturated that. we moved to the andeman sea. we completely saturated that. flying from kuala lumpur, we penetrated deeply into the bay of bengal. that's from our side because the indians were flying over there, too. i think really it's simply a matter of this southern area has been searched the least. so we're out here and australia is out here. and at this point that's all you can do. you find the areas where you haven't looked, where there may have been information that came
from satellites whether that's military or governmental or commercial, and you go to those. and so that's what we're doing. >> if you are able to find debris, does that automatically mean that you would be able to figure out where the plane went down if in fact the plane did go down in the water? would you be able to automatically figure out based on tides and time? >> great question. and the currents and the wind and the sea state plays such a huge factor. being so long from that initial flight takeoff, it's such a huge variable. so what we normally do in the u.s. navy, when we come upon this situation we immediately launch a helicopter and we establish a central point where we think the last known contact was. that's called a datum. so from this datum we calculate the currents and the winds. and that is why these search
areas slowly expand. and so for what we usually do for a search and rescue you look at that first 72 hours. it can grow fairly big but within your helicopter range. well, now that is completely a different scenario. and the current and the winds and the set and drift on there play a huge factor. we can track that slightly -- we can drop a sonar buoy and get a kind of a gps position that tracks the environmentals, but it's such a long period of time it is certainly a huge factor. and really no one can say if a piece of debris started in one area where it is ten days later. >> this may be a dumb question, but are you still hopeful? are you losing hope? with each day that passes by this gets more and more difficult. >> you know, this what is we train for. and our pilots, our air crews,
even our maintainers on the ground, our mission is to fly these planes and to search. and the way i think of it personally is, each of those people on that aircraft, they have families associated with them and friends. and i know they want closure no matter what happens. and i know if it were me and my family i'd want the u.s. navy out here looking and that's what we're doing. >> commander marks, i'm glad you're out there. thank you. >> you're welcome. thank you. >> incredibly difficult task right now. digging deeper, i want to bring in a veteran of these kinds of things, david gallo co-leader of the search for air france flight 447 also retired airline pilot ron brown. david, you heard the commander there saying they're searching off the coast of australia because they've already basically thoroughly searched the northern part of the indian ocean. do you basically just keep on expanding out until they've searched the entire area the plane could possibly have reached given the amount of fuel it had?
>> anderson, we need to find some clue about where that aircraft is. we can't be mapping the entire indian ocean. and if that plane impacted the water, even came down gently there's going to be some clue. and the navy is well suited to be able to find those bits of that plane. i'm hoping still with the families that it's sitting on land someplace. but this is the way to exclude the ocean. >> david, it's interesting though what the commander said which was that given the amount of time that has gone by, even if they find some debris on the water, that doesn't guarantee that they'll be able to pinpoint where the plane entered the water if in fact it did, correct? >> right. well, air france 447 it was five days. i thought that was a long time after the tragedy before the first wreckage was found. but it was two years, not continuously at sea but giving mobilizations and the like, two years before we found that aircraft on the bottom. so you're right. it's no guarantee. but you know what, there's some very talented modelers out there that can look at wind currents with models and then backtrack
that information to try to find the location. and even if it's not exactly right or if there's a lot of error in it it cuts down the search area. could cut it down dramatically. it's important stuff. >> ron i've been getting a lot of questions on twitter about this new search area. maria asks, how busy is the flight path? did the plane have enough fuel to get that far? as far as we know it had enough fuel. hello, we have breaking news now on the search for malaysia airlines flight 370. the australian broadcasting corporation is reporting that authorities may have found objects related to the missing plane, and they are citing the prime minister tony abbott. australia has been leading the search in the far southern reaches of the plane's possible path. we're also hearing that the prime minister may in fact address parliament say thing is
new and credible information. it's come to light from satellite imagery. two possible objects related to the search have been dent tide. they have deployed an aircraft to inspect these objects. three more aircraft will follow. once those extra aircraft arrive, they will conduct an extensive search. we're being told that the task of locating these objects is extremely difficult right now. australia's search operations centered in the city of perth. andrew stevens joins us from there now live. andrew, what are the details that you have on what they may or may not have found. my mistake, we do not have andrew. but he has been covering this. what we have been hearing over the last few hours is that this search area has dramatically narrowed from an area of almost
3 million square miles, now down to an area about the size of the state of colorado, about 110,000 square miles. still, a massive area, but we know that the focus has been on the southern arc, right at the extreme end of that southern arc off the coast of western australia. and apparently the officials managed to narrow down the scope of the search area, because they yielded a lot more information from the satellite pings, which the plane had been giving off every hour for about seven our eight hours or so. so what we know right now is that we're hearing from australian authorities that there is possible debris related to this plane. 13 days now or 12 days now they have been searching for this missing flight. and now we have what could be
credible evidence of debris floating in the water. of course, there are still many unanswered questions, what is that debris, how far has it floated. richard quest is standing by in new york with more on this. and so richard, could this be the break that everyone has been waiting for? >> oh, absolutely. you have to put it in terms that it's unlikely that the australian prime minister would be holding a news conference if there wasn't a high degree -- no one is going to say, and i suspect he's not going to come out and specifically say because there would have -- they have have to retrieve the debris and ensure that there is a very high degree of certainty about it, but bearing in mind the aus t l
australians in the last 48 hours took over the searching down in the south china sea -- sorry, the south indian ocean. enormous number of assets have been deployed, including the "uss kidd" which sent its planes to the western coast of australia for that very purpose, john. they said it would be easier for long-range search to search out of perth rather than being stuck on a ship in the middle of the ocean. so it's fascinating tonight that the australian prime minister is going to make this press statement, floating debris believed to be potentially from malaysian airlines flight 370. we have had this sort of news before, just a week ago with the chinese photographs, the satellite photographs. but i'm supposing that there must be a fair degree of
certainty or at least confidence in what they're finding. >> we understand that prime minister tony abbott of australia has spoken to his malaysian counterpart about this news which we are now getting to us here at cnn. that two possible objects have been found. richard, sorry to interrupt, but this does not mean that this is where the plane went down because this debris could have floated quite a distance. >> in the number of days since the incident happened, absolutely. but one thing i do know is that the oceanographers will not only have done the models of where debris would have floated but they would have gone further and written specific models for this area. so they will now be thinking the, we know the time, we know the water temperature, we know the winds, we know the prevailing weather during the last week. they will be factoring that in,
the oceanographers, and they are extremely experienced at being able to take that information and work out roughly where the debris will be. now how far, if you're asking me how far could that debris have moved over the last ten days, i don't know. but if you look at the map that we're seeing at the moment and you interpret where the route of the aircraft was, and what could have happened in the last 10, 12 days, then you start to see why the australians believe that there is a strong level of confidence. and on one other point, in the last days or so, more and more people have come to the conclusion that it is the south china -- sorry, the south indian ocean, i beg your pardon, the south indian ocean which was the more realistic of the two paths, not the northern path or western path up towards india and kazakhstan. >> richard, what we are hearing
is that the debris was detected by satellite imagery. a very similar situation to what we had with the chinese satellites about a week or so ago, detecting that debris off the coast of vietnam. that turned out to be a false start. but a lot of people were talking back then this was very large debris to be spotted by a satellite. so i know we're speculating here, but is that going to be a similar situation now, that this will be large pieces of debris because it has been seen by a satellite. >> the problem with the chinese pictures, almost from the moment -- there were many of us, myself included, that hoped it was correct. but quite quickly, experts on the 777 said -- because the chinese -- last friday the chinese put out a statement which they actually said how big the pieces of debris were. they said they were 70 x 70. quickly, experts of the 777 said there is no single piece of the
aircraft that measures those dimensions. so that hugely assisted them in discounting that relatively quickly. i'm assuming whoever's satellite they have used in this situation, they've done exactly the same process. they've locked up the debris. they measured it with a high degree of certainty. we have had debris from the moment this incident happened. we had a table drum -- >> richard, sorry if i may interrupt. we have andrew teastevens on th line now. he's covering this story for us from perth where the search on the australian end has been based from, perth is the state capital of western australia. andrew, very early stages but it is coming from the prime minister's office. they are deploying assets to try and inspect this debris from flight 370. what else can you tell us? >> that's right, john.
at this point we have to be very cautious. what we can tell you is that the australian state-owned media operation here is saying that tony abbott, the australian prime minister is telling the house that two pieces of debris have been spotted in the southern indian ocean. he says that they could possibly be related to mh-370. certainly at this stage, not saying definitely. a plane has been diverted from its earlier search area to the destination where this debris is believed to be floating. that is due to be on the scene around about now, john. and we understand another three aircraft have already been dispatched to that same area.
at the moment, what we can see is tony abbott is being reported by the australian broadcasting corporation, those two pieces of objects have been found, and the possibility is that they are from mh-370. >> andrew, we've had this situation over the last 24 hours or so that there's been this new radar information coming from the pings which were given off hourly by flight 370 and with that satellite information they have managed to narrow down this search area. so describe the area that they have been looking at, which is where it appears that these objects are. >> yes, that's right. i mean, it has been narrowed down significantly, given the fact that the malaysians only 24 hours ago saying they are putting equal emphasis on the northern and southern corridors, which is a combined area,
roughly the size of the australian land mass. the southern corridor, they have narrowed their search down to that. so within that, there is a zone of 300,000, which they are focusing on at the moment, john. we don't know why specifically they are focusing on this area. it is being reported that they have satellite intelligence from the u.s. and also from australian satellite sources, as well. obviously, satellites and radar is an important instrument. [ indiscernible ]
more so there is a satellite surveillance facility in the center of australia, which is jointly operated but effectively run by the americans. we don't know what satellite information is coming from there. certainly it's been established from our u.s. sources the southern corridor has been a more likely search target based as well on the simple process of elimination, given that the northern corridor where it consists of at least 11 countries, some of which have very significant radar and technology, such as china, nothing has been seen or reported certainly from the northern corridor. so the u.s. has been deploying assets along the southern corridor and helping australia
with the search. >> andrew, stand by. for anybody just joining us, this is the breaking new. the australian broadcasting news is quoting that the prime minister is saying two possible objects related to the search for flight 370 have been identified by satellite in the southern indian ocean and right now a royal australian air force plane is heading to -- excuse me -- is heading to that area to try and find -- establish exactly what this debris may be. other planes are heading there, as well. we know that the meshes are there, new zealand also has planes and assets in the region. but it is the australians who are taking the lead in all of this. i would like to go back to richard quest right now. richard, we had a very similar situation to this about a week or so ago. we were just talking about it
just a short moment ago when they did find debris on the satellite image by the chinese. turned out to be nothing. this seems a lot more substantive. okay, do we have richard? okay. i'm sorry, richard has gone to work the phones to try to find out more about what we're dealing with. we still have andrew stevens on the line with us right now. okay, one moment, please. so andrew, we were talking about this area. we're also looking at a situation that this is a very remote part of the world and it's also a very deep ocean. so if there is debris on the surface, there's the possibility there could be a lot of debris below the service with a lot of challenges trying to get there. >> absolutely, and also we need to take into account the
currents and tidals, so any debris that's on the surface will have moved significant distances, perhaps hundreds of kilometers from the zone where that debris may have been found. so a lot facing the searchers, again the fact that some places in the indian ocean is 7,000 meters deep and the average depths is around 4,000 meters. so there is enormous problems and challenges still facing the searches. it's also key to note that the devices which are triggered when a plane crashes into the sea, will send out distress signals for about one month. so we're about halfway into that one month. so there is a time limit on locating this aircraft.
[ indiscernible ] so huge amounts of challenges for the search parties, but we can't rule out how significant this latest news is, because we have gone from an area of 2.2 million square kilometers down to what could be a significant sighting in the southern ocean. resources are now being focused in the southern ocean, in this area of the southern ocean. so just to recap, we do know that an orion aircraft is expected to be on the scene where the satellite images picked up two pieces of debris. we don't know with any degree of certainty if they are related to the plane, but an orion is due there about now. it is 11:45 in the morning here
in perth and three more planes dispatched. so we should get some better understanding of exactly what is there. >> we have andrew stevens on the line with us in perth. we have richard quest on the line in new york. i would like both of you to stay with us. we do have -- i would like to read that statement once more in case you are joining us that we have from the australian prime minister. this is what he told parliament a short time ago. new and credible information has come to light for the search of flight 370 in the southern india ocean. information based on satellite imagery of two possible objects related to the search have been identified. a royal australian aircraft has been diverted to inspect the object and due to arrive about now. the statement reads, three more
aircraft will also follow and conduct a more expensive search. the task of locating these objects is extremely difficult. the prime minister has spoken to his malaysian counterpart. that is what we're being told. the prime minister has said to the house just a short time ago in the australian capital. richard quest is on the line with us right now. we know, richard, there are a lot of assets in this region, including the most advanced sub hunter that the americans have, the p-8. no doubt that will be deployed in some manner to look at this debris? >> oh, absolutely. they will be sending everything they've got and a great deal more over to find this. the fact that the prime minister -- now, look, john, you're much more of a student of australian politics than i am. but the fact that the pm chose to make a statement in the
house, new and credible information is the phrase he uses. not just we found some debris, but credible information. based on satellite imagery of objects possibly related to the search. and listen to this, following specialist analysis of this imagery, two possible objects have been identified. now, i'm guessing the phraseology there was, he doesn't say we found two objects and we're looking to identify them. he says the objects have been identified. so i'm starting to come to the conclusion that the prime minister wouldn't make such a statement to the house if he didn't have a very strong view that this was not only credible, but had been interpreted and accepted. >> okay.
so we're now at the stage where after 12 days of what has been a very frustrating search, possibly the biggest search ever for a missing civilian -- for a missing airliner. we now are at the position where the australian aircraft is over the area where two objects have been identified and we are awaiting official word. it is pretty much my understanding, that that plane is there and that it is due to arrive back in australia, on australian soil in about four hours from now. no doubt if there is any information to come from, this it will be radioed back. so we should find out exactly what may or may not have taken place or been found rather in that search. but at this stage, as you said,
richard, this is looking to be by far the most promising lead that we have had since this began. >> and it is also a reflection, i think, as andrew stevens was just reporting from perth a moment ago, of the number of assets being deployed. when the royal australian air force were given the job of searching the south indian ocean, they took at it with gusto in the sense they were very honest about it. they made it quite clear that this was a huge task. adding to australia's own very sophisticated ability, remember, it was the australian air investigation that investigated
the engine explosion out of singapore. they have enormous experience in their own right doing searches. you know this better than i will, john. as a maritime nation, as an island, albeit a continent, australian has exceptionally good maritime searching abilities. so what the prime minister says, look, i can't say it is and i can't say it isn't. but having done this long enough, you get a feeling of what might be happening and the pm speaking to the house in that way is very strong, credible evidence. >> absolutely. richard, stand by for us. i would like to go back to andrew stevens. andrew, it was just yesterday that the australians were saying that this search of this area could take up to weeks and now they have narrowed it down to what could be a matter of hours. in fact, we are expecting some
kind of statement from prime minister tony abbott maybe in about 25 minutes from now. >> i think the key here is the information and where it's coming from. this is satellite information, so the physical search in the absence of any specific information about pin pointing areas by satellite, which have taken several weeks, even though it has been significantly refined as we now know, it still would have been several weeks to comb that area. now, though, satellite information, we don't know where that's come from, but it is very sophisticated satellite operations, operated jointly by the australians and the u.s. in central australia. so the information obviously
coming from satellites, that allows them to pinpoint this area and as richard said, given the number of false starts here and the fact that the malaysian government has taken so much criticism, tony abbott is going to be very hesitant to say anything that he may have to backtrack on. so at this stage, what he's telling the house is very significant. remember that there are currents, we are 13 days into the search. so whatever debris seen there, it will have moved considerable distances from a crash site. so there's still a lot of work to do.
we just need to underline we don't know whether this debris is linked. it was a false start with the chinese last week, which turned out to be nothing. s >> okay. if you are just joining us, the news is now coming from the australian prime minister that significant objects have been identified in the southern indian ocean. he released this information just a short time ago to the australian parliament. this is what he said. >> the australian maritime safety authority has received information based on satellite imagery of objects possibly related to the search. following specialist analysis of this satellite imagery, two possible objects related to the search have been identified. we must keep this in mind, the
task of locating these objects will be extremely difficult, and it may turn out that they are not related to the search for flight mh-370. nevertheless, i did want to update the house on this potentially important development. >> okay, that was the australian prime minister tony abbott addressing the lower house of the house of parliament just a short time ago. richard, what was notable there, and understandable is that word of caution coming from tony abbott that this may not actually turn out to be anything, but it seems at this stage that it might just be. >> indeed. tony abbott, now we heard a little bit more. he has given a caveat to it, that it might not be 370. so he's -- i don't use the word, i would never say this about a prime minister, that he's hedging his bets, but the fact that he made the statement, he didn't have to make a statement, john. he could have just simply put
out a press release. the royal australian air force could have put out a statement. the maritime search authority could have just put out a statement. he says it's credible. he says it's confirmed or satellite has confirmed the objects. i'm guessing and assuming having looked at this for some time that they have very -- they have got a very realistic view that this is what they've been searching for. let us be clear, it would be a blessing that they have found something in the south indian ocean. but this would really just be the beginning of the next part of the whole process. so in other words, we find more debris, work out the back workout where the debris may have come from using currents and temperatures and slowly start to see if you can find the
bigger debris field. what we know, john, is the debris field, and there's always something on a plane that floats. the life rafts, the seat cushions. part of the wing, part of the tail. the moment they find a sizable debris field, and there should still be something there, they are very much closer to finding the aircraft itself. >> and let's just look at some of the politics of how this played out. >> this is cnn breaking news. >> i'm don lemon in new york. and the breaking news is that new information is coming from australia being reported by the australian broadcasting company that two objects possibly belonging to that missing flight 370, two objects have been found off the coast of australia.
david suchi, who is a former faa safety investigator, this appears to be a significant development, the most significant development we've had so far. >> very much so, don. the report says, credible information. how long has it been since we heard that? >> this is verbatim, the prime minister of australia says, new and credible information has come to light in relation to the search for malaysia airlines flight mh-370 in the southern indian ocean. the australian maritime safety authority has received information based on satellite imagery of objects possibly related to the search. following specialist analysis of the satellite imagery, two possible objects related to the search have been identified. i can inform the house that a royal australian air force orion has been diverted to attempt to
locate the objects. this orion is expected to arrive in the area about this time. three more aircraft will follow this orion. they are tasked for more intensive followup search. we're also hearing there will be a press conference coming from sho shortly. the information is coming from the prime minister. it is almost midnight here in the united states eastern time, and it's almost noon in perth, australia. i want to go now to mary schiavo. she is standing by now. again, this is a very significant development. i don't think australia would be doing this if they didn't think there was some importance to this, mary. >> oh, i agree. i am sure they realize how important, even if this is the wreckage, even if it's the very first piece, the clue also
tumble forth, was there a fire, an explosion, do they have the pitting p pitting patterns. the evidence can finally start, and most important they can take where the pieces are, reverse the current track, find out where the currents have led over the past 12 days, and then start in earnest the search for the block boxes. >> australia now saying that they believe they have found two objects that are significant here that may be related to the missing malaysian airline mh-370. that plane vanished on march 8. it's been missing now for 13 days without a clue. they found two objects in the southern indian ocean. a p-3 ship has been directed to this new destination and three other aircraft are being dispatched, as well. again, it is almost midnight here in the u.s. eastern time
and noon in perth, australia, where this is very close. m let's go to cnn's richard quest. australia released information saying they were going to expand their search off their coast and now we're finding this. >> let's remember what the prime minister of australia said in the house of parliament. he said the australian maritime safety authority has received satellite imagery of objects. now, listen to this. he says -- he calls this credible, tony abbott says it's credible, and he says, two possible objects have been identified? does he have stronger evidence that they are from 370? we know now that aircraft are heading over in that direction. the pm has warned that retrieving those objects will not be easy.
but this, don, is -- you don't get a prime minister standing up in the house of commons or the houses of parliament in australia and using words like that. he caveated it by saying it may not be anything, but this is the best we've had so far, don. this is the strongest lead. >> and richard quest, we want to hear from the prime minister just a short time ago. listen. >> the australian maritime safety authority has received information based on satellite imagery of objects possibly related to the search. following specialist analysis of this satellite imagery, two possible objects related to the search have been identified. >> that's the australian prime minister speaking there at the house of representatives just a short time ago. richard quest, stand by. mary schiavo, stand by. everyone stand by.
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he was suggesting that the tens of thousands that you've been seeing right now live out on the streets expressing their first amendment right to free speech and peaceful assembly, they're quote professional protesters that are part of a plot and that their presence can be blamed on the media. no less than the man who will soon be the most powerful person in the world assailing both the pregs of freedom of assembly and that constitutionally protected activity. the tweets at the top of the feed for all to see until this morning when he followed up with this, love the fact that the small groups of protesters last night have passion for our great country. we will all come together and be proud. joining me now filmmaker michael moore whose new film is "michael moore in trumpland. you've been monitoring the protests. they've been quite organic. >> i was in a cab going to a documentary meeting. all the traffic stopped, what's going on? there's a protest out there.
talking, turn the tv off, hit record, then turn it off and go out. and if it's not happening in your neighborhood, make it happen. call up some friends or neighbors. this will go on all night tonight. >> we've seen a reinvigoration in street protests with the obama administration. the black lives matter movement, some of the direct action that's been done on the environmental front particularly the dapl and dakota access pipeline where there's been a standoff, an incredibly brave showing of nonviolent force. where do you see that going? because it seems to me this is an expression of certain segments of society saying we do not approve of the rhetoric you've used or the plans that are laid out and we don't approve of our fellow citizens is being targeted. how does that build power, to your mind? >> first of all, this is going to grow larger than anything that we've seen in recent memory.
we can't keep this going. i'm just encouraging people right now, it's okay to operate on your raw energy and emotion because our voices must be her. look at trump's tweet you just showed. he's talking about just had a great presidential election and now these protesters are out here. very unfair. very unfair. you know that he's rattled already? i mean, this should be the happiest week of his life and he's up, oh! >> it's a remarkable thing. people all across the ideological spectrum were taken aback by the tweet -- >> all protesters be honored by this that already the thin-skinned donald trump. imagine what happens when the crowds double tonight and triple tomorrow night. because that's what's going to happen. >> what about people who say what you are advocating will only raise the temperature and heighten the country that is a polarized and frankly dangerous place? >> no. >> you don't think the country's
both major party candidates, opposed by trump and hillary clinton voted for by no one -- >> and he's talking about it as if it's a thing. those first hundred days? how about the first ten days? capitol hill will look like a marx brothers moving where they'll be whipping, who has got a bill, zing. who has a bill? zing. all those in favor, ding. and liberals will be like, whoa, wait a minute. wait, that's not fair. you know? yeah. get the game face on, everybody now. because they are deadly serious about this. and it will be years before we undo the damage of their first ten days. >> so quickly, remember clinton won the popular vote which you mentioned is number five on your list. >> never forget that. >> there are four more.
take over the democratic party. >> yes, immediately. remove them all. >> fire pundits who won't acknowledge reality. >> i see the desk is mostly empty here tonight. thank you, chris. >> thank you for sparing me your purge. dems in congress who won't fight must go. that's what the tea party did. don't forget. it wasn't go after democrats. it did in terms of it showed up at the town hall. but first thing they did was primary republicans. >> at the spring break for congress, this coming spring, we are town halling these democrats and if they are not standing in front of trump and blocking his nominations to the supreme court, if they are not committed to a filibuster, we're going to put them on notice that we're going to primary them in two years and bring candidates that are going to win. i personally am going to be part of that process to make that happen. >> stop saying you're stunned. >> well, white people say
they're stunned because, you know, i didn't see this coming. if you're black or hispanic, you know, if you're gay, if you've suffered under the oppressiveness of this system, you are not surprised by donald trump from day one. and when you heard him say on day one that mexicans were rapists and murderers, you knewite right then that there was trouble and there would be hell to pay. >> the train was coming. >> the train was coming. we've got video of atlanta where people are assembling peacefully for protests to express their opposition to the president-elect of the united states donald j. trump. michael moore, thank you for being with me. >> thank you, chris. you know, come on out, too, this weekend. i mean, i know we have to be a journalist and all that, but you're also a citizen of this country. >> i'm a citizen. >> and in a democracy, that means you're an activist. >> up next, the great rachel maddow joins me to talk about the massive conflicts in donald trump's transition team as the
trump presidency approaches. that's after the break. later my exclusive interview with gold star father khizr khan on the trump election. coaching means making tough choices. jim! you're in! but when you have high blood pressure and need cold medicine that works fast, the choice is simple. coricidin hbp is the only brand that gives powerful cold symptom relief without raising your blood pressure. coricidin hbp.
appointments are trump's three oldest children. first of all, the transition team is a government entity complete with a dot-gov website and we have laws in this country about nepotism hiring. on top of that there's the fact that trump's kids are supposed to be taking over the family business in a so-called blind trust, although it's not going to be. set up to avoid conflicts of interest with the white house. according to a trump organization spokesperson, we are in the process of vetting various structures with the goal of immediate transfer of management of the trump organization its portfolio businesses to donald jr. ivanka and eric trump along with a team of highly skilled executives. i wanted to talk to you because we get so much coverage of the clinton foundation which was the story went essentially a slush fund whereby people would donate to curry favor with the secretary of state or the future president of the united states. we're now having a situation in which this business enterprise,
which has no public disclosures because it's privately held, run by the children of the sitting president, they will choose the people that staff the government like for instance the irs. >> yeah. they're in that incredibly active, you know, kinetic role in terms of deciding who is going to be in the government. also once the transition is over, even if he doesn't give them jobs in the government, the plan is they'll be running, continuing to run his family business empire. the whole idea of a blind trust is that the president is supposed to literally be unable to act using government policy in order to enrich himself or enrich herself because the trust is blind. the president doesn't know what investments he or she has, doesn't know whether or not something that he's doing in the u.s. government will enrich him. in this case it's not like people think he won't speak to his children and he'll be in a position to advice them, to change things about the
company's plans in order to account for information that highway has specifically because he's president and there's no way that any of us will ever know that. it is a brick wall of a conflict of interest even after this transition. >> and just to play this out a little bit more, right, a company that's seeking regulatory favors from the trump administration could offer ivanka a discount equity stake for the trump portfolio and there's no disclosure -- i mean, that's an entirely feasible thing that could happen in the united states starting january 20th. >> and how would we know? how would we know when that is happening? we have no transparency here other than what the president will choose to disclose and i can't imagine he's going to disclose anything if he's calling this a blind trust, for example. the thing that is stunning to me about this is that this evolves
directly from his refusal to release his tax returns. >> which he got away with. >> he got away with it. everybody said that wasn't a law. that's just a norm in our politics. and i guess that norm is broken now. i can see why you wouldn't want to disclose his tax returns. it's an invasion of his financial privacy and all that stuff. but then once your president, are you still not going to release your tax returns? will you still not tell us about your financial entanglements? we're worried that you're going to use the power of the united states to enrich yourself and in fact on day one they already did. because on his first dot-gov web presence, he's listing his trump properties. he's listing literally the name of his wife's qvc shopping channel jewelry line on his dot-gov website. they're already using the resources of the government to enrich themselves while still not disclosing any of their other financial ties. it's mind boggling. >> this segues into the role of the media in all this. because this is going to require
called for british-style libel laws in this country which is a way in other countries that don't have a first amendment, they bankrupt reporters, they put publications out of business. they can keep people in fear of reporting on public officials in a way that you previously haven't been able to do in this country. so to bring on peter thiel, this billionaire who is most famous in american life not for the source of his wealth but because he used it to bankrupt and put out of business an online web source that he didn't like because of the way they reported on him, all of those things together, i think it's a reasonable distraction for the press to have right now in terms of how the press will play defense in terms of its own role. in terms of our stance toward trump, one of the things that will be hard is just maintaining the level of newsiness, right? >> right. >> of outrage and continuing rejection of stuff that isn't okay, although he's been doing it for a long time by the time we get around to reporting.
>> i found out talking with you last night and you were on air with that great, fascinating, elizabeth warren interview, when he tweeted, just had a very open and successful presidential election now professional protesters incited by the media are prosting. very unfair. i was on air earlier showing protests. because we've covered protests. we've covered all sorts of protests over the years. that's aimed at me. that's a warning shot of the president-elect of the united states to folks who are doing their constitutionally protected and in fact civically sacred duty of reporting and free expression. i just wondered how you reacted to that? >> it is -- first of all, to call them professional protesters implies that they're being paid. so he's alleging a conspiracy. he's looking at those people in the street and alleging that he's a paid conspiracy of elites against him.
it's a very short bridge from that for him to be then telling his supporters this is a paid conspiracy in the streets. that's against the american people because you chose me as your leader. this is some sort of fifth column within the country. when you look at other countries and the way that they respond to dissent, and how they characterize what it means to protest against them as a threat that other citizens must respond to or they ask for their own supporters to get into the street and wage battles with them, it starts with characterizing protests as the product of a conspiracy. it's the way it happens. it usually happens in other languages. we're not used to it happening in this country. but that's a strongman style response to dissent the world over. he's already as of last night already taken the first step town that road in the way they all do it. and they all do it the same way. i just feel a lot of international echoes.
i worry mostly about donald trump, not about whether or not he's going to be able to pull off the things he's threatened to do. the thing i worry about the most, is how he'll behave the first time he doesn't get what he wants, the first time he tried to do something and he can't do it. what's he do when he's mad? he hasn't done well when he's angry or stymied in his time as a politician. >> it makes the job of reporters i think in this era -- and not to sound grandiose, but i think it's the most important it's been in the american republic and i don't think that's a crazy hyperbolic thing to say. >> chris, saying it that way, but there's also a real threat. we've seen over the course of our time in journalism and our time in tv, we've seen the strain on local papers, local reporters, beat reporters, to,
people working as anchors at local tv stations are getting paid $19,000 a year and working at three other jobs. we talked to two other papers who broke the bridgegate scandal and the political component of the bridgegate scandal. we saw both of those news desks get gutted by their parent company because the biz model isn't there. there's such pressure on those just having jobs doing this. and if we're going to become convenient political targets in the way that trump is already signaling, we're going to have to have a defensive strategy in mind and the country is going to have to decide in a broader way how we're going to protect journalism in the same way we all are thinking about how we're going to protect muslim americans and these kids that came out and let themselves be known as undocumented dreamers because of president obama's proposal who are now under deportation by donald trump and he said on day one. we've got specific things that were threatened in new ways that
weren't necessarily and we need a national defense for those if those communities really need us. >> that's extremely well put. rachel maddow, my good, good friend, my comrade, my buddy. >> chris, will you come on my show on monday? >> yes, let's keep doing this. >> will do. thanks, my friend. >> still to come, the next fight for democrats, finding a leader for a party in crisis.
believe we lost this election in the last week, comey's letter in the last 11 days helped depress our turnout and drove away some of the critical support from college educated white voters particularly in the suburbs. his second letter intended to absolve hillary clinton actually helped to bowleser trump's turnout. exit polls indicate that voters who decided who they were voting for more than a week before the election supported clinton. voters who decided in the last week broke for trump by a larger margin. these numbers were even more exaggerated in the key battleground states. when you lose an election effectively by 110,000 votes across three states you can point to 10,000 things that were decisive. but it's hard not to focus on the last shot. and the last shot in this election came from james comey. now that's happened and in the past so for democrats trying to figure out where they can go
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another former governor martin o'malley has thrown his name in. but there's a third person whose name keeps coming up. congressman keith ellison from minnesota. one of only two muslims in congress and an african-american who represents a district that is more than 65% white. ellison, a member of the party's progressive and populist wing one of only a handful of democratic members of congress to endorse bernie sanders during the primary says he'll make an announcement monday about whether he'll be an official candidate. he has the backing of bernie sanders and somewhat surprisingly, the backing of chuck schumer who is set to become the minority leader in the senate. joining me another democrat who ran for congress and progressive in the mold of bernie sanders and lost on tuesday. good to have you here. >> great the be on. >> so you're in a district, you're a sanders person -- >> yep. >> -- you fought an new jersey -- >> the governor. >> the governor, right.
then you ran in this race. >> yes. >> you were endorsed by bernie sanders. >> i'm an fdr democrat. >> you're an fdr democrat. >> we've got hyde park in our district. i actually think it's a time for a return to some fdr democratic principles. one of the thins that is so relevant right now, fdr, this is a sitting president, said that we had to take on these princes who want to take over our politics and that we had to wake up to economic and political tyranny. and fdr said just as the minutemen fought political tyranny, we have to fight economic tyranny. i think we need a little more of that spirit in our democratic party. a willingness to take on the princes of wall street. a willingness to take on the elite financiers and say, no, we're standing up for working men and women. >> here's my question for you. your district was one of these classic districts that we're now studying, right? it was six point --
>> obama won by six points four years ago. it looks like the numbers will shake out but looks like trump won by ten or more points. >> that's an enormous swing. >> yeah, yeah. >> did you see it on the ground when you were campaigning? did you feel the wave coming? >> you could. the anger was everywhere. so again, like democrats didn't necessarily turn out and then surprising people turned out. but the big thing that i felt is this incredible anger at elites, at wall street, at the establishment, you know, people who harry saying, wait, it's not getting better for us. don't tell us it's getting better for us because it's not getting better for us. where are our jobs? where are our union jobs? one of the things that democrats have to do is be fighting for unions not just in election years but all the time. >> do you feel -- your district is a largely white district majority white. not like a big urban -- >> like 90%. >> 90% white. there's a question about how
racialized this all was. a lot of people looking at trump and they're seeing a guy had has said these explicitly bigoted things about all these different groups and they're scratching their head that white people voted for him. >> you're going to hear all kinds of different reasons. you were just saying there's 25 different reasons for every loss. >> yeah. >> and 25 reasons for every win. but i'll tell you when i talked to people around our district, the anger i felt was more an anger about real basic things like water and job. >> water? >> water's a big issue in the hudson valley and people wanting to protect wer. then flint, we have our own flint in husic falls. and just not being able to trust that you can turn on the water. i guess it would say a deep lack of trust that political elites were really paying attention. >> so then my question to you -- and i know this is a hard thing to ask because you just ran a race and you lost and it doesn't
feel good to lose, but in some ways there's this theory that's emerging that the sanders' message is the message to win back those folks. economic populism, what you're talking about, you ran on that message in that district and it didn't work. >> look, every race down ballot is different. we did slightly outperform top of the ticket. >> you did. >> but honestly in my own race, the other thing that was at play and this is really important and i think has been hidden. >> completely, yes. >> in the trump story is the dark money that came out. the dark money that came into congressional races. so we're six years in to citizens united land. and i felt like i was living in citizens united land. i was theoretically running against john faso my opponent. but i was running against super pac money. more than my opponent ever raised. >> it just flooded in. >> it just flooded in. two guys mark singer and robert mercer who spent well over
500,000 in my race. and his pac was putting in $50,000 on the last day. that that's happening in my district, that's happening all around the country. >> we need to do a dark money postmortem because you're right that the top of the ticket because the money was so unique there, people lost sight of what happened down ballot. >> but it's part of the anger. >> zephyr teachout, thank you for joining us. still to come, my interview with gold star father khizr khan on this veterans day. plus an important thing 1, thing 2, seriously.
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so we looked into the claim that hillary clinton wrote an e-mail that called african-americans never-do-wells and suggesting they could not assimilate. that language does appear in the john podesta e-mail dump hack by wikileaks. if you read that e-mail you notice it was not sent by john podesta, it was sent to him along with 20 other recipients from an account called orca 100 apparently based in the netherlands. it's spam, a racist alt-right spam e-mail that was sent to podesta as well as a dozen reporters that were also recipients. i get these at times from people. several bogus news sites and alt-right outlets took it and ran posts reading things like this, wikileaks bombshell, hillary's racist remarks about blacks. think about that. podesta receives a piece of spam mail and through the weaponized use of disinformation online
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president obama called for unity at arlington in honor of this veterans day. it will be president donald trump honoring veterans day. a man who mocked p.o.w.s and attacked the family of a fallen soldier. joining me is the father of that soldier, khizr khan. thank you for your time tonight. i want to start by asking your feelings having watched this man who did attack your family and sort of cast aspersions on your faith, frankly, be elected to serve as president and commander of chief of men and women like your son? >> chris, before i answer your
question, first, i want to pay tribute to all gold star families and all brave men and women that have sacrificed in defense of this country values of this country, democracy of this country and all men and women of our armed forces, we extend our sincere thanks for standing up to the values of this country. i want to add briefly that whenever we go to pay our respect and visit to captain humayun khan, alongside in the same section of arlington cemetery where there are other brave soldiers but there are four other muslim soldiers that are buried that were killed in iraq or afghanistan and their names are major thomas heron, specialist rasheed khan, sergeant amman taha, sergeant amon and humayun khan. these are brave soldiers buried in second 60.
my very sincere and my really humble request to this president-elect is that he must, he must take first step towards the reconciliation. my journey continues to speak about the values of this country, the constitution of this country. we are told after watching this candidate, after watching this president-elect for a year and a half of his bigotry, of his statements of demeaning women, his statements of misogyny, his statement -- racial statements towards muslims and other ethnicities, we are told on wednesday by our leadership that we must come together and we
must accept him as our leader. wait a minute. it does not work that way. for a successful candidate, it is his obligation to address the concern of all americans, not only just those who have voted for him. and i want to remind mr. trump that you have not gotten the majority of popular vote. those votes are still concerned on the streets and the number of those votes is growing on the streets, their concerns must be addressed for he may have won the electoral college but he must win the respect of everyone and respect is not given by demand. respect is earned. and that is his first step, yet it has been three days that we have not heard anything of
reconciliation, anything of lead ing for america forward. all we've heard is blaming our fourth pillar of democracy, which is press, that somehow these protests are incited by media. this practice must come to an end if this president-elect wishes to have -- move our country forward, wishes to have a government that will move our country forward. my mission, my journey continues throughout into next year and that journey is of reconciliation, of healing, of moving forward, but from the successful candidate we have not heard. so i would urge him. i hate to continue to give him lessons in civics, but somebody has to speak on behalf of all these folks that are standing on the streets. these folks are scared because of his statements and his policies, and he has not
extended hand of courtesy, has not extended hand of affection, hand of reconciliation. a decent winner would do that at the very first day that now that i have been elected your president, i am prepared but he has not done that. >> mr. khan, there have been reports, some are anecdotal, but some have police reports attached to them, of acts of bigotry committed by american citizens towards other american citizens whether they're african-american or muslim americans. you know, under the name of president-elect trump. do you feel -- how do you feel as a muslim american in your community among friends, people you worship with, do people feel like they're targets right now? >> every child, every thoughtful
muslim is concerned not only muslim is concerned, but latino americans are concerned, other minorities are concerned. and these incidents reported in the media with pictures, with photos, with videos, they're carrying trump's banners, they're wearing trump's hats. they're wearing trump t-shirts. that is an obligation of this newly elected candidate that has become our -- that will become our president, that he owes this to communities, to minorities, these are patriot americans. >> to come out and -- >> he owes them. >> -- and condemn and extend the hand of reconciliation. >> that is -- that should have been done. where are his surrogates? where are his advisers? why aren't they telling him? it's this protest, these
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russia. >> putin has an untrammeled authority. >> i don't see any checks on his power. >> he is able to make singular, rapid decisions. the absolutism there is unlike anything i've ever seen in russia. >> all that power is propped up by an astonishing approval rating, over 80%. and that's according to american pollsters. >> donald trump wins the presidency. >> but when the united states elected a new president, it looked like russia had fallen for a new leader. there were toasts all over moscow.
at the parliament, known as the duma. on talk shows. and at bars. [ laughter ] ♪ we are the champions ♪ of the world >> but one man seemed utterly unsurprised by trump's victory. >> he's happy to take credit. and that means that he won the u.s. election. the man who is simultaneously president of russia and in charge of the united states. >> at the heart of all this are some deadly serious questions. does vladimir putin have some kind of hold over donald trump? we simply don't know. but one reality is now crystal clear -- american intelligence has established that putin interfered with our election in
order to help donald trump. mr. putin did not agree to answer questions about this. but his closest aide, dmitry pesk peskov, did. >> the answer is, no. you're humiliating yourselves saying that a country can intervene in your election process. america, a huge country, a country -- the most powerful country in the world, this is simply impossible. >> we will get at the truth of all this. but to do that, we need to go back, to the final days of the country vladimir putin loved. >> i think that down deep in putin there is this sense of extraordinary humiliation over the collapse of the soviet union. because it wasn't just the soviet union. it was the russian empire.
>> putin returned home from his kgb posting in 1990 to a country he did not recognize. the ussr had been transformed by mikhail gorbachev and his policy of openness, known as glasnost. >> a lot of things happened very quickly. >> coca-cola, coca-cola. >> a romance with things western. >> freedom came fast, and it exposed the rock at the heart of soviet communism. across the soviet union, hundreds of thousands of people began demanding democracy and national independence. it was once again what putin feared most. the people.
rising up. and finally, the people won. >> tonight in moscow at the kremlin, the red flag of the failed soviet union at last came down, and the flag of russia rose. >> 300 years of history erased. >> soviet institutions like the kgb simply ceased to exist. vladimir putin views the breakup of the soviet union as he said himself, to be the greatest geopolitical tragedy of the 20th century. >> it was a traumatic time. and it sparked a profound change in vladimir putin. he became a politician, deputy mayor in his hometown of st. petersburg. it was not a big job, but putin
clearly had big dreams. he commissioned this rarely-seen documentary, about himself. presenting vladimir putin, the credits read, in power. weirdly, the soundtrack is from the broadway show "cats." the ambitious putin may have already been looking toward moscow, because the russian people were desperate for strong leadership. under president boris yeltsin, the new democracy was a mess. >> the entire soviet system, it just collapsed. >> the oligarchs, the men who profited on the spoils of communism became fantastically rich. >> mercedes benz is selling more of its top line cars in russia than in all of europe.
>> but ordinary russians were sinking into desperate poverty. they would die of food shortages, even starvation. >> i don't know how to feed my kids without milk. i just don't know what we're going to do. >> president boris yeltsin was in charge, but he seemed increasingly unstable. ♪ >> his drinking. he's barely being propped up. >> russians began calling for a new leader. >> they're tired of the embarrassments of yeltsin. >> waiting in the wings was
vladimir putin. he had taken a job in moscow in the kremlin hierarchy, and he had risen through the ranks with lightning speed. >> from city bureaucrat to kremlin superstar. >> he had just become acting prime minister when it became blindingly clear the country needed a new president. >> yeltsin was ready to topple over, and they settled on putin because they knew yeltsin could retire and not be put in jail. >> boris yeltsin was notoriously corrupt, but kremlin power brokers wanted to protect him. >> so a deal was made. a deal was made. [ bells tolling ] >> december 31st, 1999. >> the surprise announcement from boris yeltsin that he is resigning as president and turning over power to his prime minister, vladimir putin. >> in the very first moments of the 21st century, vladimir putin became president of russia. his first words?
"we live in a competitive world, and we are not among its leaders." and right away, putin began to change his country. he joined soldiers on the front lines of the war in chechnya. he reassured russians that better times were ahead. >> i think we'll get paid, and we'll have work. >> the country quickly fell in love with vladimir putin. the number one song in russia was called "a man like putin." ♪ >> he's just very, he's a beautiful man. >> but the biggest surprise?
america also loved vladimir putin. president george w. bush thought he'd found a kindred spirit. >> i looked the man in the eye. i found him to be very straightforward and trustworthy. i was able to get a sense of his soul. ♪ >> even hollywood fell for the new russian president. ♪ >> he bonded with stars at a charity dinner. ♪ >> but the honeymoon would soon come to a crashing halt.
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it was personal. ♪ this is my fight song >> vladimir putin was not a fan of hillary clinton. >> of course putin wanted hillary clinton to lose. he hated hillary clinton. >> prime minister, we have a lot of problems. >> the tension between the leaders had been brewing for years. in 2001, another american leader, george w. bush, vouched for putin. >> i was able to get a sense of his soul. >> thank you! thank you! >> but on the campaign trail in 2008, hillary had a different take. >> i could have told him, he was a kgb agent. by definition, he doesn't have a soul. i mean, this is a waste of time, right? >> translator: ms. clinton said that you as a former kgb agent by definition can have no soul.
>> putin's reply? statesmen shouldn't be guided by their hearts. they should use their heads. clinton had a lot of tough words for putin over the years. >> he's a very arrogant person to deal with. we have to stand up to his bullying. he is somebody who will take as much as he possibly can. >> but it was what happened in 2011 that marked a point of no return. it began with the arab spring protests early that year. the kind of popular uprising that putin dreaded. >> he begins to see himself through the eyes of hosni mubarak. >> mubarak of egypt was facing prosecution. syria bashar al assad was on the ropes. libya's strong man, moammar gadhafi met a particularly gruesome fate. brutally killed after begging for his life. putin may have feared the same
bloody fate for himself. just a few weeks later, rebellion arrived in russia. tens of thousands rallied in the streets of moscow. the biggest protest there since the fall of the soviet union. >> people were hanging off lampposts. people were in the streets. really shocking. >> putin was now living the same nightmare he had endured as a kgb officer in east germany in 1989. this time in his own backyard. and he wasn't even president at the time. he was prime minister. having handed the presidency over to his associate, dimitri medvedev.
>> as the winter got longer and longer and colder and colder, the protests got bigger and bigger. >> as putin saw people turning against him, hillary clinton weighed in. >> the russian people, like people everywhere, deserve the right to have their voices heard and their votes counted. >> when putin hears something like that, i imagine he hears bush talking about saddam hussein. he hears that as, they're coming for me. they're trying to drive me from power. what the hell do you know about my people and whether they deserve to have their voices heard, like i'll tell you if they should have their voices heard. >> russians had a lot of reasons to be angry. that fall it was announced that putin would run for president
again, for a third time. that meant he could potentially rule russia until 2024. >> some people said, oh my god, i'm going to die with this guy in power. >> a few months later, the elections for russia's parliament were a farce. >> we do have serious concerns about the conduct of the elections. >> hillary clinton called out the election, really. i don't think she realized quite how badly that was going to go down. >> with his back against the wall, putin turned the tables. he blamed the protests on hillary clinton. claiming that she was the one who incited them with her complaints about the election. >> there are growing restrictions on the exercise of fundamental rights.
>> quote/unquote, she sent a signal, that was his words. >> putin's strategy propelled him to victory. in march 2012, he won re-election handily. fighting back tears after a tense fight to maintain his power. he may have won the day. >> hillary! hillary! >> but vladimir putin never forgot about the woman who kicked him when he was down. >> do you think he resolved, you interfered with my elections, two can play at this game? >> i think that's the line of
thinking that led him to the intervention. beginning as early as 2015. >> putin personally ordered a massive influence campaign to sway the 2016 election towards trump. according to the cia, the fbi, and the nsa. why? in part, because he holds a grudge against clinton for her actions in 2011. the alleged operation was sophisticated and multifacetted. an army of internet trolls, bankrolled by billions of dollars, launched attacks against clinton, in social media, using ads in key swing states. >> they're smart enough to know that social media is the way to touch americans personally. >> 13 russians have been indicted by special counsel robert mueller in connection with the operation. and elite hackers linked to russian intelligence pillaged the e-mails of the democratic national committee and the
clinton campaign, releasing embarrassing information, with devastating results. >> wikileaks has released -- >> another round of stolen e-mails -- >> the clinton campaign knows -- >> this is a trump dream come true. >> several more russians were indicted for that operation. donald trump was delighted by clinton's misfortunes. >> russia, if you're listening, i hope you're able to find the 30,000 e-mails that are missing. >> donald j. trump will become the 45th president of the united states. d >> in the end, america's election went putin's way. >> i just received a call from secretary clinton. >> hillary clinton was quite negative about our country, her attitude. >> it wouldn't be bad to get along with russia, right? wouldn't be bad. >> and to the contrary, the
other candidate, donald trump, said we have to find some understanding. >> when people like me, i like them. even putin. >> we like better. >> this was not the outcome we wanted. >> hillary clinton suffered one of the most shocking defeats in american history. >> i know how disappointed you feel because i feel it, too. >> at least in part, because of the alleged hacking operation. >> this was painful. and it will be for a long time. >> putin had apparently avenged his old grudge. >> so help me god. >> congratulations, mr. president. >> and he may have achieved even more. >> the 45th president of the united states. >> if donald trump is in some way compromised. if the russian government has something that it feels it has on him in terms of leverage, that's a very serious thing. i don't suggest for a second that i have the answer to this question, but we can't just let this matter drop.
up next -- >> a prominent russian opposition figure has been shot and killed. >> four of the shots hit him in the back. >> right out in the open. just blocks from the kremlin. >> the story vladimir putin might want the world to forget. it was here. i couldn't catch my breath. it was the last song of the night. it felt like my heart was skipping beats.
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a man and woman walk across the bridge right next to the kremlin. a highly-monitored area, littered with surveillance cameras. all those cameras, but amazingly, this grainy, far-away video is the only footage that exists of a critical moment in recent russian history. inside the circle of what a moscow tv station purports to be boris nemtsov and his girlfriend. nemtsov was a force, the well known opposition leader who led the protests in 2011. the station says while this snowplow hides the two from camera's view, nemtsov was killed, shot four times in the back. >> a prominent russian opposition figure has been killed. >> four shots, in the back. >> just blocks from the kremlin. >> so who murdered boris nemtsov? vladimir putin condemned the
killing, calling it shameful and impudent. and five chechens are currently on trial for murder, but the court case plods along. in the meantime, doubts remain. >> the assassination was extremely professional. >> reporter: a russian-born journalist says that only one group could be that professional. >> nemtsov's girlfriend, who he was walking with, didn't realize he had been shot until the car was already driving off. it was quick and professional, and nobody has that kind of training outside the government. >> senator john mccain takes it one step further. >> vladimir putin is a thug and a murderer and a killer, and a kgb agent. he had boris nemtsov murdered in the shadow of the kremlin. >> this is personal insult. this is lousy behavior from a political spokesperson.
>> it's nonsense, it's nonsense. there's nothing to comment on. >> over the course of putin's time in power, his regime has been accused of involvement in the deaths of many of its critics, including the journalist anna politkovskaya, and a former kgb agent. some experts say there's dozens more like them. and then, there's those that live to tell. the man seen in this surveillance foot only at a u.k. convenience score is sergei schiphol, an ex-russian spy. he moved here to salisbury, england, eight years ago, after being released from prison in moscow, where he was convicted of selling secrets to britain's mi-6. in march, schiphol and his
daughter, julia, were found unconscious on a bench in salisbury. police concluded that the pair had been poisoned with a military-grade nerve agent. while both survived, u.k. authorities placed the blame squarely on one person. >> it is tragic that president putin has chosen to act in this way. >> putin shot back, calling the accusations complete drivel and rubbish. tv went even further, blaming the former double-agent himself. back to that night, on the bolshoi moscow bridge, the allegations that putin might have played a role in borris nemsov's murder, may have been of the evidence that he had been
collecting. >> nemsov was about to prove that there was involvement in ukrai ukraine. >> that was after his murder. but there was an earlier award that was published in 2012, this was also embarrassing for putin. it claimed the president had 43 planes, 15 helicopters and 4 yachts at his disposal, including one superyacht. then, there are the palaces. his report says there were 20 presidential palaces available to putin at anytime. one of the palaces, known in the press simply as putin's palace, was said to be worth $1 million. >> this is not true. this is actually perverted commenting of reality. >> his spokesman says every world leader, especially the leader of a nuclear power like
russia, or the united states, has access to state-owned homes and planes and helicopters that are safe and have secure communications. >> of course, he uses this vehicles, this plane, this residences. but it's not his property. the rumors about his wealth, the rumors about the palaces has nothing to do with reality. just, just lies. >> the rumors of putin's wealth? well, some of them are simply staggering. >> and some people including myself believe he's the richest man in the world or one of the richest men in the world. >> bill brado was one of the largest foreign investor in russia. now he's one of vladimir putin's toughest critics. we talked in 2015. you really think putin is the richest man in the world? >> i really think that. and i'm not just saying that crazily. >> estimated net worth? >> $200 billion. >> really? >> i believe that it's $200
billion. >> that would make putin almost wealthier than the world's healthiest, jeff bezos. >> all these rumors, all these accusations about billions and billions of dollars as his fortune, this is not true. don't believe in them. he's got nothing. he's got what he writes in his personal financial declaration every year. >> putin's most recent financial declaration says that he personally owns less than half an acre of land, a roughly 900 square foot apartment and a 200 square foot garage in which maybe he puts the vehicle listed in that document, two vintage russian sedans, a 4x4 and a trailer like this one. the document does not say how much putin has in the bank or in investments. top u.s. treasury official adam szubin talked to the bbc.
>> i'm not in a position to give you figures, but what i can say is that he supposedly draws a state salary of something like $110,000 a year. that is not an accurate statement of the man's wealth. >> we may not know exactly how much putin is worth, but we do know this -- vladimir putin is remarkably popular in russia. why? we'll tell you, when we come back.
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manly photo op. he rides horseback bare chested, finds ancient treasures under water, rides a submarine to the bottom of the black sea, flies planes, fights forest fires. >> there's something ridiculous about a middle-aged world leader riding around shirtless on a horse like conan the barbarian after a dozen donuts. who thinks this looks good? >> everything we find ridiculous about vladimir putin is very appealing in a media universe that he controls absolutely. >> perhaps the foundation of the putin juggernaut is a political truism no matter where you live. it's the economy, stupid. after the chaotic years of boris yeltsin, putin stepped in and stabilized the country, and he rode the wave of ever rising oil prices, which in russia's resource-rich economy, translated into rising wages and soaring stock indices.
then in late 2014, the party stopped. oil prices slumped. and soon after came western economic sanctions. vladimir putin has navigated hard times well. he has slashed social spending, implemented an austerity program, allowed the ruble to fall and the bank kept inflation in check. putin is a fiscal conservative. >> the outward seeming ethic of wealth looks closer to dubai it's an amazing transformation. >> add to the economics, putin's secret sauce, nationalism. and it surged in 2014 after an invasion that shocked the world. >> bigger nations must not be able to bully the small. >> vladimir putin grabbed a piece of ukraine for russia. the west was horrified.
>> that's the kind of thing adolf hitler did in the 1930s. we thought those days were gone. >> it looked different through russian eyes. >> i have never met a russian that accepted the notion of ukraine as a totally separate state. >> many ukrainians deeply resented the invasion. ♪ but not russians. they see it as a revival of a deep sense of power and national destiny. >> putin has given them their pride back. russia is once again a great power. ♪ >> putinism is an ideology of social conservatism of anti-westernism, but above all, of national power. putin might say he has made russia great again. sound familiar?
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♪ finally, here are my thoughts on he whom we have called the most powerful man in the world. let me explain the title. the united states and china for that matter are more powerful countries than russia, of course. the power of a head of state is determined both by the country's strength and the capacity he or she has to exercise that power unilaterally, unconstrained by other institutions, parties or political forces. and combining those two metrics, it's easy to see why vladimir putin rises to the top. he has created what he calls a vertical of power, unlike any we have seen in other great nations.
as the russian chess grand master has noted, himself a harsh critic of putin, the entire structure of russian political power, now rests on one man. when the tsar died, you knew the process by which his successor his son, would be elevated. when the general secretary of soviet communist party died, his standing committee and polit bro would select his successor. but when putin dies -- i almost said if -- what will happen? no one knows. to understand putin, you have to understand russia. the last 100 years for that country has seen communism, democracy, collapse, and then comes vladimir putin, ushers in two decades of stability and increases standards of living, and increases prominence in the world. russians have immense national
pride. russia is, after all, the largest country on the planet. 48-times larger than europe. it emcompasses 11 time zones. straddles europe and the middle east. it claims a prominent place on the world stage. after the strange summit in held hins helsink helsinki, putin has established that goal. donald trump gave perhaps the most embarrassing performance by an american president i have witnessed or read about. his efforts to talk his way out of his troubles even make this more absurd. >> i don't see any reason why it wouldn't be russia, sort of a double-negative. >> what has been obscured by this disastrous and humiliating performance, is the strain in
his russia narrative. he always said that being friends with russia would be a good thing. >> wouldn't that be a great thing? >> he's not alone, barack obama and hillary clinton embraced what he said in increased relations with russia. it was one of efforts of conciliation, including one from george w. bush -- >> russia is not the enemy of the united states. >> but every reset failed. it's time to recognize that russia is not seeking to integrate itself into if american system of international order. it seeks to undermine that order. as putin seeks to destabilize the west, he seems to understand the vulnerabilities of free societies. the internal divisions and discord and the gaping openness. he understands the frigidity of
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an enigma, and prime minister churchill, meet vladimir putin. >> he is really much very much a leader, and he has done an amazing job. so smart. >> and he doesn't have a soul. >> and vladimir putin is a thug and a murderer and a killer. >> he is the richest man in the world. hundreds of billions of dollars of wealth. >> what does he want from donald trump? >> putin is going to eat him like a sandwich. >> he'd rather have a puppet as president. >> you are the puppet. >> just how powerful is he? >> putin has an untram melled a authority. >> i have not seen the checks on the power. >> so powerful that he apparently tried to the rig the american election. >> of course putin wanted hillary clinton to lose. he despised hille lary clinton
>> who do you want vladimir putin or a crook? >> and so americans are asking, what did putin get and what more does he want? is he really the most powerful man in the world? >> december 5th, 1989. it was a cold night in dresden, east germany, and it would change the course of vladimir putin's life. the berlin wall had just fallen.
they were lash iing out against communist rule. that night in dresden they found a target, the local kgb headquarters. the mob was outside and peering through the curtaining was a young kgb lieutenant colonel named vladimir putin. >> he was terrified that they were going to storm the building. >> putin was a junior officer, but the boss was away. he was in charge. >> the berlin wall had come down. police weren't going to help and he called for instructions. >> desperate for help putin dialed kgb headquarters in moscow over and over again. >> finally one official told him simply moscow is silent.
>> and i think it felt like a deep betrayal to him. >> vladimir putin was on his own. he went down into the bowels of the building and fired up the furnace. >> he finds himself in the basement at a furnace shoveling documents as he hears demonstrations out on the street. >> they are burning the secret files so fast that the furnace is blowing up. >> putin torched thousands of pages of kgb documents and secrets as the crowd closed in. with the fire still raging, putin went outside and faced the mob by himself. there are armed guards inside, he told them. they will shoot you. and he's able to bluff his way
out of it and tell the crowd, don't try it here. you're going to get hurt. >> putin's threat worked. the mob dispersed. >> this is the drama that stays with putin all the time. the fear of popular uprising. ♪ >> vladimir putin quells that fear with absolute control. ♪ this is what control looks like. ♪ in one of the world's busiest cities the streets are emptied for vladimir putin's motorcade. ♪ 12 million people simply disappear on putin's inauguration day.
putin on the russian airwaves. none. not one word. >> putin controls everything in russia. >> putin has an untrammelled authority. >> i don't see any checks here. >> he is able to make sing ular rapid decisions around and the absolutism there is unlike anything even in russia. >> the approval rate is up over 80%, and that is according to american pollsters. >> donald trump win s ts the presidency. >> but when the united states elected a new presidency, it looked like russia had fallen for a new leader.
there were toasts all over moscow. and the parliament known as the du duma, on talk shows, and at bars. ♪ we are the champions ♪ ♪ of the world >> but withone man seemed utter unsurprised by trump's victory. >> he is happy to take credit, and that means that he won the u.s. election. the man who is simultaneously the president of russia and in charge of the united states. >> at the heart of all of this are some deadly serious questions. does vladimir putin have some kind of hold over donald trump? we simply don't know. but one reality is now crystal
clear, american intelligence has established that putin interfered with our election in order to help donald trump. mr. putin did not agree to answer questions about this, but his closest aide dmitri peskov did. >> the simple answer is no. you are humiliating yourselves saying that the country can intervene in your election proce process. america, a huge country, and country number with the most power nfl the world, and this is simply impossible. >> we will get to the truth of all of this, but to do that, we need to go back to the final days of the country vladimir putin loved. >> i think that down deep in putin, there is this sense of extraordinary humiliation over the collapse of the soviet yun n
vladimir putin. he became a politician, deputy mayor in his hometown of st. petersburg. it was not a big job, but putin clearly had big dreams. he commissioned this rarely seen documentary about himself, presenting vladimir putin, the credits read, in power. weirdly the sound soundtrack from the broadway show "cats." the ambitious putin may already have been looking towards moscow because the russian people were desperate for strong leadership. under president boris yeltsin the new democracy was a mess. >> the entire soviet system, it just collapsed. >> the oligarchs, the men who profited on the spoils of
>> waiting in the wings was vladimir putin. he had taken a job in moscow in the kremlin hierarchy. and he had risen through the ranks with lightning speed. >> from city bureaucrat to kremlin superstar. >> he had just become acting prime minister when it became blindingly clear the country needed a new president. >> so yeltsin was ready to topple over, and they settled on putin because they knew that yeltsin could retire and not be put in jail. >> boris yeltsin was notoriously corrupt, but kremlin power brokers wanted to protect him. >> so the deal was made, the deal was made. >> december 31st, 1999. >> the surprise announcement from boris yeltsin that he is resigning as president and turning over power to his prime minister vladimir putin.
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beautiful man that you'll see. >> but the biggest surprise, america also loved vladimir putin. president george w. bush thought that he'd found a kindred spirit. >> i looked the man in the eye. i found him to be very straight forward and trustworthy. i was able to get a sense of his soul. >> even hollywood fell for the new russian president. he bonded with stars at a charity dinner. ♪
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today! how many times will she leave her mark? how many ways will she light up the world? this is the woman. >> at the heart of the hacking scandal that rocked the 2016 presidential election. >> ladies and gentlemen. >> was an old grudge. >> my mother, my hero and our next president hillary clinton. ♪ this is my fight song >> it went beyond ideology. it was personal. ♪ this is my fight song >> vladimir putin was not a fan of hillary clinton. >> of course putin wanted
hillary clinton to lose. he hated hillary clinton. >> prime minister, we have a lot of problems. >> the tension between the leaders had been brewing for years. >> in 2001 another american leader, george w. bush, vouched for putin. >> i was able to get a sense of his soul. >> thank you, thank you. >> but on the campaign trail in 2008 hillary had a different take. >> i could have told him he was a kgb agent. by definition he doesn't have a south. i mean, this is a waste of time, right? >> mrs. clinton said that you as a former kgb agent by definition can have no soul. >> putin's reply. statesmen shouldn't be guided by their hearts. they should use their heads. clinton had a lot of tough words for putin over the years. >> he's a very arrogant person to deal with. we have to stand up to his bullying.
he is somebody who will take as much as he possibly can. >> but it was what happened in 2011 that marked a point of no return. it began with the arab spring protests early that year. the kind of popular uprising that putin dreaded. >> he begins to see himself through the eyes of hosni mubarak. >> mubarak of egypt was facing prosecution. syria's bashar al assad was on the ropes. libya's strongman moammar gadhafi met a particularly gruesome fate, brutally killed after begging for his life. putin may have feared the same bloody fate for himself. just a few weeks later,
rebellion arrived in russia. tens of thousand rallied in the streets of moscow. the biggest protest there since the fall of the soviet union. >> people were hanging off lamp posts. people were in the streets. it was really shocking. >> putin was now living the same nightmare he had endured as the kgb officer in east germany in 1989. this time in his own backyard. and he wasn't even president at the time. he was prime minister. having handed the presidency over to his associate, dmitry medvedev. >> as the winter went longer and longer and got colder and colder the protests got bigger and bigger. as putin saw people turning against him, hillary clinton
weighed in. >> the russian people, like people everywhere, deserve the right to have their voices heard and their votes counted. >> when putin hears something that, i imagine he hears bush talking about saddam hussein. he hears that as they are coming for me. they are trying to drive me from power and what the hell do you know about me and whether or not our people should have their voices heard? i will tell you if they should be heard. >> that fall, it was announced that putin would run for president again, for a third time. that meant that he could potentially rule russia until
2024. >> some people said, oh, my god, i will die with this guy in power. >> a few months later, the elections for russia's parliament were a farce. >> we do have serious concerns about the conducts of the elections. >> hillary clinton called out the election rigging. i don't think she realized quite how badly that was going to go down. >> with his back against the wall putin turned the tables. he blamed the protests on hillary clinton. claiming that she was the one who incited them with her complaints about the election. >> there are growing restrictions on the exercise of fundamental rights. >> quote, unquote, she sent a signal, that was his words.
>> putin's strategy propelled him to victory. in march 2012 he won re-election handily. fighting back tears after a tense fight to maintain his power. he may have won the day but vladimir putin never forgot about the woman who had kicked him when he was down. >> do you think he had resolved you interfered with my elections, two can play at this game? >> i think that that's the line of thinking that led him to the intervention. beginning as early as 2015.
>> putin personally ordered a massive influence campaign to sway the 2016 e election towards trump according to the ci a a the fbi and the nsa. and why? in part, because he holds a grudge against clinton for her actions in 2011. the alleged operation was sophisticated and multi faceted. an army of internet trolls bankrolled by millions of dollars to launch and at attack on clinton in key swing states. >> they are smart enough to know that the social media is the way to touch americans personally. >> 13 russians have been indicted by special counsel robert mueller. and elite hackers linked to russia esasing embarrassing
information with astounding results. >> the wikileaks -- >> and this latest leak is a tr trump dream come true. >> and several more russians were indicted for that operation. donald trump was delighted by clinton's misfortune. >> russia, if you are listening, i hope that you are able to find the 30,000 e-mails that are missing. >> donald j. trump will become the 45th president of the united states defeating hillary clinton. >> again, america's election went putin's way. >> i have just received a call from secretary clinton. >> hillary clinton the was quite negative about our country and the attitude. >> it would not be bad to get along with russia, right? >> and to the contrary, the other candidate, donald trump was saying that we have to find some understanding. >> and when people like me, i like them. even putin. >> and whom would you like
better? >> this is not the outcome that we wanted. >> hillary clinton suffered one of the most shocking defeats in american history. >> i know how disappointed you feel, because i feel it, too. >> at least in part because of the alleged hacking operations. >> this is painful and it will be for a long time. >> putin had apparently avenged his old grudge. >> so help me god. >> congratulations, mr. president. >> and he may have achieved even more. >> the 45th president of the united states. >> if donald trump is in some way compromised. if the russian government has something that it feels it has on him in terms of the leverage, that is a very serious thing. i don't suggest for a second that i have to a answer to this question, but we can't just let this matter drop.
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littered with surveillance cameras. a all of those cameras, and amazingly this grainy faraway video is the only footage that exists in a critical moment of russian history. inside the circle of what a moscow tv station purports to be boris nemtsov and his girlfriend. nemtsov was, of course, the well-known russian opposition leader who led the protests in 2011. the station says that while the snowplow hides the two from cameras view nemtsov was killed, shot four times in the back. >> a prominent russian opposition figure has been shot and killed. >> four of the shots hit him in the back. >> right out in the open, just blocks from the kremlin. >> so who murdered boris nemtsov? vladimir putin condemned the killing calling it shameful and
impudent, and five chechens are found giuilty of the murder, bu many doubts remain. >> the assassination was extremely professional. >> russian-born journalist julia joffey says that only one group could be that profession aal. >> nemtsov's girlfriend, who was walking with didn't realize he had had been shot until the car was driving off. it was quick and professional and nobody has that training outside the government. >> senator john mccain takes it one step further. >> vladimir putin is a thug and a killer and a murderer and a kgb agent. he had boris nemtsov murdered in the shadow of the kremlin. >> this is personal insult. this is lousy behavior from a politician. >> that is putin's top aide and spokesman dmitry peskov. >> that's nonsense. it's nonsense. there's nothing to comment on. >> over the course of putin's
time in power his regime has been accused of involvement in the deaths of many of its critics, including the journalist anna politskaya and the former kgb agent litvinenko. some russian experts say that there are doz ens more like the. and then there are those who live to tell. the man seen in the surveillance footage at a u.k. convenience store is sergei skripal who moved here eight years ago after being are released from moscow where he was convicted of selling secrets as a member of mi6. he and his daughter were found unconscious on a shopping bench
in salisbury. the police concluded that the pair had been poisoned with a military grade nerve agent. and the u.k. authorities placed the blame on one person. >> it is tragic that president putin a has chosen to act in the way. >> putin shot back calling the accusations complete dribble and rubbi rubbish. >> it is nonsense. >> pro kremlin tv went further to blame the double agent himself. >> back to that night on the bolshoi bridge, the idea that president putin had anything to do with nemtsov's murder.
>> he was about to reveal information that had to do with russia's involvement in ukraine. >> that was released after his murder, but there was an earlier report by nemtsov that was clearly embarrassing for president putin. it claimed the president had 43 planes, 15 helicopters and 4 yachts at his disposal, including one super yacht and then there are the palaces. nemtsov's report says there were 20 presidential palaces available to putin at any time. one of the palaces known in the press simply as putin's palace was said to be worth $1 billion. >> this is not true. this is actually perverted commanding of reality. >> putin's spokesman dmitry peskov says every world leader, especially the leader of a
nuclear power like russia or the united states has access to state-owned homes and planes and helicopters that are safe and have secure communications. >> of course he uses these vehicles, this plane, these residences, but it's not his property. the rumors about his wealth, the rumors about the palaces has nothing to do with reality. it's just lies. >> the rumors of putin's wealth? well, some of them are simply staggering. >> and some people including myself believe that he's the richest man in the world or one of the richest men in the world. >> bill braddo was once the largest foreign investor in russia. now he's one of vladimir putin's toughest critics. we talked in 2015. you really think that putin is the richest man in the world? >> i think that and i'm not saying that crazily. >> estimate his net worth. >> 200 billion. >> really? >> i believe it's 200 billion. >> that would make putin almost
two and a half times wealthier than the man whom "forbes" says says it is more than the world's wealthiest jeff bezos. >> all these rumors, all the accusations about billions and billions of dollars as his fortune, this is not true. don't believe in that. >> he's got nothing. he's got what he writes in his personal financial declaration every year. >> putin's most recent financial declaration says he personally owns less than half an acre of land, a roughly 900-square foot apartment and a 200-square foot garage into which maybe he puts the vehicles listed in that document. two vintage russian sedans, a russian 4x4 and a trailer like this one. the document does not say how much putin has in the bank or in investments. top treasury official adam szubin talked to the bbc. >> i'm not prepared to give you figures, but what i can say he
supposedly draws a state salary of something like $110,000 a year. that's not an accurate statement of the man's wealth. >> we may not know exactly how much putin is worth, but we do know this. vladimir putin is remarkably popular in russia. why? we will tell you when we come back.
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under water and he rides a submarine to the bottom of the black sea and flies planes and fights forest fires. >> something ridiculous about a middle-aged world leader riding around shirtless on a horse like conan the barbarian after a dozen doughnuts. who thinks this looks good? >> everything that we find ridiculous about vladimir putin is very appealing in a media universe that he controls absolutely. >> perhaps the foundation of the putin juggernaut is a political truism no matter where you live. it is the economy, stupid. after the chaotic years of boris yeltsin, putin stepped in and stabilize the country, and he rode the wave of ever rising oil prices which in russia's resource-rich economy translated into rising wages and soaring
stock indices. then in late 2014, the party stopped. the oil prices slumped and soon after came western economic sanctions. vladimir putin has navigated hard times well. he has slashed social spending, implemented an austerity program and and allowed the ruble to al fall, and the central bank has kept inflation in check. putin is a fiscal conservative. >> the outward seemings seeming of wealth is similar to dubai. >> and then add to it his secret sauce, nationalism. and it surged in 2014 after an invasion that shocked the world. >> the bigger nations must not be allowed the bully the small. >> vladimir putin grab ad pie p
of ukraine for russia. the west was horrified. >> it is something that adoff hit ler did in the 1930s. >> but it was different in the russian eyes. >> i have never met a russian who believes that ukraine is a separate state. >> of course, many of the ukrainians deeply resented the invasi invasion, but not the russians, because they see it as a revival of the deep sense of power and destiny. >> putin has given them pride back. and russia is once again a great power. pewti putinism is national vichl a-- nationalism and above all he has
made russian great again. sound familiar? >> we will make america great again. >> usa. usa. >> like putin, trump has used nationalism to boost his support, but many believe that donald trump is no vladimir putin. >> putin is a much more practiced, subtle, cunning player. he is playing in poker terms a couple of deuces at the highest level. he has reasserted russia on the world stage from a position of relatively weakness like nobody i can think of. that is an amazing feat of geopolitics. . id you have in mind? i don't know. $4.95 per trade? uhhh and i was wondering if your brokerage offers some sort of guarantee? guarantee? where we can get our fees and commissions back if we're not happy. so can you offer me what schwab is offering?
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finally, here are my thoughts on he whom we have called the most powerful man in the world. first, let me explain the title. the united states and china for that matter are more powerful countries than russia, of course, but the power of a head of state is determined both by the country's strength and the capacity he or she has to exercise that power, unilaterally, unconstrained by other institutions, parties, or political forces. and combining those two metrics it's easy to see why vladimir putin rises to the top. he has created what he calls a vertical of power unlike any we've seen in other great nations, as the russian chess grand master garry kasparov has noted, himself a harsh critic of putin, the entire construct of
russian political authority rests on one man. when the czar died, after all, you knew the process by which is his successor, his son, would be elevated. when the general secretary of the soviet communist party died, the standing committee and the politburo would pick his successor. but when putin dies -- almost said if, what will happen? no one knows. to understand putin you have to understand russia. the last 100 years for that country have seen the fall of communism, war, communism, collapse, and then comes vladimir putin. he ushers in two decades of stability and thanks to rising oil prices, increases the standards of living and prominence in the world.
russian russians do have immense national pride, and russia is after all the largest country on the planet, and 48 times larger tharn germany. it encompasses 11 time zones and stratles europe, asia and the middle east, and demands a prominent place on the world stage. after the summit in helsinki, he appears to have accomplished that goal and much more. but what did america get from this meeting? at the press conference after the summit, donald trump gave the perhaps most embarrassing performance of a american witness that i have witnessed or read about. his preposterous ways to get out of the troubles are even more absurd. >> the sentence should have been i don't see why it wouldn't have been rush sharks and sort of a double negative. >> but what is obscured by the embarrassing and disastrous performance is russia's
narrative. donald trump has always said that having better relations with russia would be a good thing. >> wouldn't it be a great thing if we could get along with russia. wou wouldn't that be a good thing? >> in this he is not alone. barack obama and hillary clinton both agreed on a reset in russia. >> so glad to see you. >> it was one of many efforts at conciliation including one from george w. bush. >> russia is not the enemy of the united states. >> but every reset and rapprochement failed. it is obvious they are not willing to bill themselves into the national order, but to destabilize the order. as he tries to the destabilize the west, he understands the vulnerabilities of the free societies and the internal divisions and the discord and the gaping openness, and he understands the fragility of the institutions like the european union and nato and the ideas
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>> reporter: trump jr. testified he never told his father about the meeting. when asked, did you inform your father about the meeting or prior to the meeting? trump jr. responded, no, i was not. when he was later asked why he didn't share news? i wouldn't tell him anything until i knew what was myself. last year he testified before two congressional meetings. a source familiar tells cnn, he did not testify trump had any advance only in of the meeting. now his attorney rudy guiliani is attacking the credible. >> man is a liar a proven liar. there is no way you will bring down the president of the united states on the testimony uncorroborated of a proven liar. i germany tee you, this guy is a proven liar. >> reporter: when just a few weeks ago, guiliani seemed to have plenty of faith in con's truthfulness. >> if he believes it's in his
>> reporter: no, they're not. but i think in this sort of lexicon of international diplomacy, which mr. putin who is usually a sticker is referring to tlrk he wants to see progress on what happens what was or ran agreed. he wants to see progress at official levels on for example syria on perhaps cooperation and a number of other areas that were touched on at helsinki, possibly more people getting into the long grass and starting to work out so that when they did have a future summit, there would be something substantive to talk about. >> that is my interpretation of what those conditions may mean.
but a very interesting development indeed, thank you. now, here's another one involving russia. a u.s. senate democrat says she's the victim of a cyber hack and guess who she blames? russia. senator claire mccaskill who says the attempt was not successful had some strong words for the russian president. >> we discovered it because microsoft contacted the senate and then the senate personnel let us know. so we have been aware of it for this month. >> has everyone been made aware? >> i will not be intimidated. i said many times putin is a thug and a bully and he is somebody who does not allow the people of russia to have freedom. >> incidents like that are why u.s. president trump held a meeting of the national security council. he received updates about the
media about the relationship between trump and putin. but on the other hand, i think to some extent, president trump looks at other optics, which has to do with his political base. i think there is a broader geopolitical mood going on as well. i think we should try to keep an eye on that, too. because i think u.s. russian relations seen in a broader context then bring in other challenges or peer competitors to the united states like china. i think that may be an area we need to explore somewhat more. >> president trump talks about the importance of closer ties to russia. do you get a sense, you mentioned a geopolitical move. do you get a sense of what he is really wanting to achieve with a closer tie? >> it was a very interesting interview with henry kissen ger
in the "time's" a week ago. he has a particular style and skill where he could do with more work. i think there is an underlying strategy. but his ability to explain it in a matter that might build up a border constituency for it is probably lacking. i do think there is a desire to drive a wedge between russia and china in order to assure the eurasia line mass running through to europe isn't kind of a unified block, which effectively gives transportation, trading and other links, a kind of land route from the far east to what you can call the far west. i think that's a chris him that wants to be exploited. i expect the discussions are, what is the price that president putin may want to extract, in order to be able to sort of cut
loose a bit from china and flow is lost a little bit with the united states. >> it's so interesting, isn't it? the tracks that you are seeing. we got this track that you are discussion and the track of the russian investigation ongoing and trump's lawyer may be flipping and have some information that perhaps mr. trump did know about that infamous meeting involving russians and that could turn this significantly. could it not? if it is true in. >> well, absolutely. i think the amount of pressure which is coming from within the kind of beltway politics. this is largely where this remains. i'm not sure how vast they are moved by these things, but it is keeping that had minstration under pressure and each side, the republicans and the democrats, are trying to manage the optics of it as well,
neither wants to be seen obstructing justice or impeach president trump, but at the same, each one will keep the other unstable. i think there is a geopolitical chris him there, too much i think there is a disagreement about this broader geopolitical strategy and the degree to which russia is left off the hook in ukraine, georgia and elsewhere. i think there is a disagreement there. and i think this other thing, of course, 2016 and the election and the defeat of the democrats. i think there is still a kind of a desire to continue the strategy of that election by the democrats going into 2020 and blaming external interference plays a domestic function as well. >> we always appreciate your insights. my goodness, we'll have an opportunity to talk with you again for sure. thank you so much. >> thank you very much. well, massive wildfires rage in
california, reducing entire neighborhoods to piles of ash. we'll show and we'll talk about where this is happening coming up here. also, u.s. president trump is excited about the latest economic indicators. some think his excitement might be short lived. we'll go beyond the numbers coming up here on cnn "newsroom."
house when they moved up from san jose right before i was born. everyone else that helped us put so much work into this house, i can't believe it's gone. you know, all those memories, you know, childhood memories. >> a victim there of a massive car fire in northern california, since erupting monday, it has consumed 20,000 hectares, 48,000 acres. two people have died, 500 structures destroyed. authorities believe a malfunctioning vehicle started this still out of control fire. california governor has asked president trump to send federal assistance for the communities impacted by the fire. that's just one of self burning in california and elsewhere all around the world. >> reporter: the devastation is beginning to set in for people
in redding, california the aptly named car fire officials say first sparked by a vehicle has ravaged the region since monday and doubled in side in just the last 12 hours. >> it's then out a lot. >> reporter: deadly and out of control, it has charred some 45,000 acres as firefighters try to contain it. >> wow! >> reporter: in some areas, the difference of a home spared and scorched is a few feet. >> we don't know what we're grand jury to do tomorrow, we don't know what we're going to do tonight. >> reporter: they never imagined they see their fire like this. >> we didn't think the fire was going to come here so we didn't take things out. like everybody else scrambling at the last minute when we saw the fire on the ridge. >> reporter: officials say strong temperatures and winds make this fire all the more fee, it is one of three major blazes burning across the state. >> this is that new normal, that
unpredictability, large growth fires. >> reporter: sadly scenes like this are the new normal world wide, in greece, experts say extreme summer heat accelerated the fire that turned these iconic white hill sooisd black with ash. the flames rose so quickly, some families rose into the sea for relief. >> the temperatures were so high, so normal. they could do anything as you can see, houses, cars, everything destroyed. >> reporter: the greek fires claim more than 80 lives so far, in just the last few weeks, more than 3400 daily high temperature records have been broken or tied, including unprecedented numbers in the north. montreal canada at 82. in sahara desert, they packed at 124 degrees this month. so are we ready for triple digit temperatures and consequences to go from extreme to expected?
if are you in redding, the answer is no. >> it seems part of my heart is gone. >> reporter: as can you see the fire continues to smoldner faces and folks are bracing for more potential problems as the area remains under a red flag warning. derek is here to talk more about these fires the two words that stuck out for me in that report are new normal. this is the near normal to that mart of the world. >> and climate change. even though we can't directly pin these individual events on climate change, what we as meteorologistsed on scientists around the world are recognizing, all these things are occurring more frequently. so the fingerprints there of climate change definitely quite invisible. all right. so let's re-visit the car fire,
because this is just an incredible fire to see burning. this could be your house. this could be my house. anyone watching today, it's difficult to see these fires, especially at night. there is a 30,000 foot plume of smoke that's cast over northern california just from this particular fire that's led to the evacuation of just under 40,000 residents there the california national guard has soldiers and airmen currently fighting the fire. let me take you to another fire just outside of los angeles. this is the cranston fire. could you believe it, authorities believe this was set by an arsonist. look at all the fires approaching these homes. not what we want to see. let's go to the details. you will start to see the three fires a car fire and 5% containment. some better numbers for the cranston fire.
it looks as if firefighters are getting a handle. it is hot. we're talking triple digit heat today. >> that will last through the course of the weekend. it will make it difficult for the fire to be put out and extinguished. in terms of largest fires, it doesn't register on our top ten list, that puts that into perspective, remember thomas fire in ventura county. that was over 110,000 hectares. there are 89 large wildfires amongst an extreme heat wave that continues. there has been some relief in california. look at the sacramento valley. still we have heat advisorys and warnings. triple digit heat continues and really there is no ryan i sign of letting up from this extreme heat. so, natalie, i'm sure you can see where i'm going with this,
the fires will endure as long as that red you see on the map continues to build. >> yeah, absolutely. and our next story illustrates how the extreme heat is affecting all kind of ways of life. extreme heat in southeast england is causing long delays tore people traveling under the channel to france. the brutal heat wave is making things miserable in western uniform it's not letting up. how it also fueled the devastating wildfire in greece and sweden. >> the fires have gone, but the devastation remains. an eerie silence has fallen in this village where houses once today. now they're just charred remains. nothing was spared, authorities believe arson was to blame. >> this is the first time so for my service seeing so much
catastrophe from the fire. >> reporter: as the blaze tore through the coastal village, many sought refuge in the water. many didn't make it. dozens died. almost 200 were injured. >> i feel a pain in my heart, a very heavy load. a very big burden. >> reporter: greece is not alone. across europe, tinder dry conditions combined with a scorching heat wave are stretching emergency services to the limit n. sweden a fire front continues to burn out of control even the country's air force has been deployed to help, dropping a bomb to starve a nearby fire of oxygen. >> it is not something we've done before, so we have been working closely with the rescue leader. we have done meticulous calculations. >> germany, too, is dealing with
its own fire, including one that forced the major roadway. amid sweltering temperatures, firefighters in cologne are being used to water the trees. in berlin the water cannon usually reserved for riot control has been brought out. this time, though, it's to keep the heat at bay. erin mclaughlin, cnn, london. >> we are moving from one extreme to another. japan is bracing for a powerful typhoon that can dump up to 500 millimeters of rain. the storm is threatening to unleash its heaviest rainfall around the region around tokyo. officials warn it could hit the western parts of the country where more than 200 people were killed by deadly flooding and landslides earlier this month. all of this comes while a heat wave grips japan with record
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live from atlanta. i'm natalie allen. firefighters are trying in hot conditions to battle the fire, two people have been killed and it's only 5% contained. the deaths consumed nearly 20,000 hectares, that's more than 48,000 acres. japan is prepare foing for type. the storm expected to hit the region around tokyo the hardest. officials warn it can pass of person japan where more than 200 people were killed by flooding and landslides. on top of all that, they're having a heat wave in japan. chinese president xi jinping is finishing off a trip in south african the leaders there promise more open and multi-lateral trade. they introduced to support the paris climate change agreement.
russian president vladimir putin says he is ready to visit washington. however that invitation has been pushed to next year. he invited the u.s. president to moscow but said any meetings between them must have what he calls necessary conditions. the u.s. economy is firing on all cylinders. the president on friday was very happy to take credit for that. but over shadowing the event is donald trump's denial again he had advanced only in of a 2016 meeting at trump tower between his top campaign advisers and russians. here's more about it from cnn's jeff zeleny. >> on a sun splashed morning at the white house a cause for celebration. >> i am clild to announce that in the second quarter of this year, the united states economy grew at the amazing rate of 4.1%. >> the president trumpeting the
soaring economy. >> these numbers are very, very sustainable. this isn't a one-time shot. >> for a few moments at least the controversy swept aside. the president hailing north korea for handing of what are the remains of killed troops. >> at this moment the plane is carrying the remains of some great fallen heroes from america back from the korean war, they're coming back to the united states. >> reporter: in most presidencies, it would be a banner way to end the week. but in this one, so many other questions are looming. for the third straight day the president not answering questions about his long-time protector michael cohen turning against him. the white house grappling with fallout from the helsinki summit. where the president sided with vladimir putin over the
intelligence community that believes russia interfered with the 2016 election. after downplaying the threat only a week ago. >> is russia still targeting the u.s., mr. president? in there make your way out. >> reporter: meanwhile the next dance over the trump-putin meeting continued. after the white house talks about a meeting next year. putin made a statement today. >> we are ready to invite mr. trump to moscow to be my guest. he has such an invitation. i will go to washington. i repeat if the right conditions for work are created. >> reporter: sarah sanders said he is feeling it is possible to go based on his -- >> who is the week like?
>> upbeat. broad. >> reporter: jeff zeleny, cnn. the white house. >> jeff just mentioned the new economic numbers. they show the economy grew at its fastest rate since 2014. in the last few months, the annualize gdp surge is a result of several factors. this is investment row as companies invested some of the money they saved from tax cuts. consumer spending and government both increased and concern over a trade war helped, too. u.s. exports rose as foreign buyers stocked up on american products before they were hit with tariffs. if the economy gross at 3% for the entire year, it will be the highest growth since 2005. >> during each of the two previous administrations we averaged just over 1.8% gdp growth. by contrast with renow on track to hit an average gdp annual
growth of over 3% and it could be substantially over 3%. each point, by the way, means, approximately $3 trillion and 10 million jobs. >> here's how these numbers stack up against the lyft three administrations. earlier we spoke to an expert on how to look at this current economy. >> i think there is two big thing people should be looking at. one is what will happen with these tariffs and trade wars. i think that is actually the biggest risk factor we are facing for the markets and the economy. it can be just as little as the threat of a trade war that can
make people and businesses pull ba back. the second thing is interest rates. what will happen to interest rates? are they going to continue to go up? and at what point do short-term rates get higher than long-term rates? that's interest rate inversion. when that happens, you see this very predictable pattern of the stockmarket basically hitting its peak within six months. another six months after that bottoming out. it's almost like clockwork. more women are making accusations regarding the "me too movement." the "new yorker" magazine is reporting sexual allegations among the most powerful men. the article sites incidents of unwanted advanced, intimidation and retaliation involving six women. cnn have not independently
confirmed the allegations. >> guys, it's been likened to a nuclear bomb ripping through hollywood. six women now accuse leslie moonves, the allegations go back decades as they all follow a similar pattern. these woman say he invited them into his office at one point and forced himself upon them. within they rebuffed his advances, these women say he used his position of power to effectively harm their kreempca. one coming from illyaen na douglas. she says she was fired from a cbs project because she did not agree to moonves' advance, both moonves and cbs are casting doubt. moonves does acknowledge he made some advances decades ago that
may have made some women feel uncomfortable. he says, i recognize there were times decades ago when i may have made some women uncomfortable by making advance, those were mistakes. i regret them immensely, i abided by the principle that no means no, i have never misused my position to harm or hinder anyone's career. cbs cast more doubt on the story saying cbs takes each report of misconduct very seriously. we do not believe, however the picture created in the "new yorker" does the best to treat its tens of thousands of employees with dignity and respect. now the cbs board of directors before this story came out and were aware of the allegations said that they would be looking into the charges. they would take every allegation seriously and they would come back and respond once they had had a chance to review all of
the details. >> that is a response we will likely not get until next week. meanwhile, moonves own wife is standing by him, calling him a good man a caring father and an inspiring corporate leader. guys, back to you. >> we are going to turn now to pakistan. there is still no final vote round, imran khan and his movement for justice party have declared victory. but every other major party says the election was rigged. some are threatening pro test unless there is new starle help is seen as a military favorite. here's what his opponents, though, are saying. >> reporter: the all parties conference versus unanimously rejected this election. we do not consider this election to be the mandate of the public.
we reject the claims of those people claiming victory as a result of this election. we do thought want to give them the right of governance. >> the european union has also cast doubt on wednesday's vote. eu observers say there are signs of a systematic effort to undermine the governing party. they urge any challenge to the election be done legally. an outspoken critic of this election knows khan right well. she's a journalist and one of imran khan's ex-wives. here's what she is telling cnn about the man who would be prime minister. >> he is the ideal puppet because when he wants something so desperately and you have been repeatedly in public compromising on ideology. this was the thing with us as well. lot of people say why the breakup in what happened? i keep telling them i couldn't
compromise on principles. i couldn't talk about you talk about anti-corruption, but there are corrupt people in your party. you talk about chrony-ism and what is happening with the person disqualified. the supreme court has taken the decision. you saw him in the speech that happened yesterday. so chrony-ism, corruption, he's let us down on so many occasions. >> we'll continue to follow developments in that disputed election in pakistan. more than 30 minute ago gra migrants made it to spain, the migrant as you see right there jumped off their raft on to a beach and scattered into the sand dunes, curious sun bathers looking on the breach is near the state of gibraltar.
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faith with the court order the american civil liberties union demand that be allowed to stay in the u.s. here's what an aclu attorney said friday. >> to not have these parents and children go the rest of their lives thinking they have been separated solely because the parent didn't understand a form. what we are hearing is the forms were often given to them in english. sometimes it was a group presentation where the parent had one to four minutes to figure out. didn't believe they could ask questions. >> that would be outrageous if parents are sent back to their country and the children are left here because they didn't understand the form. it's remarkable the united states going is going to hold people to lose their child based on confusion or after all these months of keeping these children separated they are unwilling to give seven days to allow these parents to make a decision that's literally life altering.
>> my goodness. philadelphia's mayor said friday his city will not renew the agreement with the u.s. immigration enforcement agency to share a key city law enforcement database known as pars. there they admitted the use of pars in i.c.e. could result if immigration enforcement against philadelphia residents who have not been acaused of nor committed of a crime. it instills near e fear in the community and make it more difficult for the police department to report crimes. we could not in good conscience allow the agreement to continue. >> we are learning about a growing number of police calls over several years at migrant shelters. this is according to investigative non-profit pro hub licka. their numbers go back to 2014
the group looked at 70 immigrant youth shelters run by health and human services and here's what they found. police responded to at least 125 calls in the past five years alleging sex offenses at shelters. police reports and call logs also document allegations of fights and children missing. cnn was not able to obtain the data they used in its report independently. we reached out to some of the shelters but with no response. some responded to pro publica, though, health and human services gave this statement. quote, our focus is always on the safety and best interests of each child. these are vulnerable children, in difficult circumstances and hhs treats its responsibility for each child with the utmost care. any allegation of abuse or neglect is taken seriously and
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ha ha. we've just had the longest luan ar eclipse, it's a blood moon, sunlight reflects through the earth's atmosphere and makes the moon appear red. did you see it? no special glass is required. it was next everywhere except right here in north america. photographers had an eclipse there. the red planet mars was also closer to us than it's been. oh, look at that shot. how cool was that? wouldn't you have liked to be in that airplane. so it's not exactly watergate when donald trump gets caught on tape ordering a soda. jeanie mos reports on why this secretly recorded conversation is so popular. >> reporter: talk about grasps at straws, have you heard the juiciest part of the trump-cohen
tape is this. >> you don't have a legitimate purpose. >> reporter: incontrovertible evidence of a thirsty president living up to his reputation for a daily consumption of 12 diet coax, right? >> that's 144 ounces of president's fuel. >> reporter: you'd be surprised. my favorite part is get mae coke, please. others rank up from with mom the meatloaf from "wedding crashers." there were comparisons to jfk, my fellow americans. >> ask not what your country can do for you. >> reporter: but there was one thing that got the most comments that contradiction found pleasing. wow, he said please, he said please? must be a fake. trump says please to the help, that's my president. he hasn't always been
complimentary about his favorite beverage tweeting i have never seen a thin person drinking diet coke. i will still keep drinking that garbage. jimmy fallon downed his favorite dozen. >> the american dream is dead, bing, bing, bong and dat. and god bless the united states. >> now we have the red button on his oval office for a coke. when he was a candidate he had to speak. >> give me a coke, please. >> reporter: as one commenter noted things, including hush money, go better with coke. ♪ things go better with coca-cola". >> reporter: jeanie mos, cnn, new york. >> well, i imagine coca-cola likes that free advertising. >> that is "newsroom." for everyone else, stay with us for "amanpour."
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lot of legal experts say he wins one in the district of columbia. keep in mind in the last election in 2016 only 4% of district of columbia voters voted for donald trump. not good odds in the district of columbia. >> bill: something we're watching. kellyanne conway senior counsel to the president from the white house. good morning to you. i have a long list. >> another slow news day here. >> bill: i have a long list. paul manafort, how closely is the president watching this trial that begins today? >> we haven't discussed that in quite a while. i would note for your audience, bill, that the judge has very strictly instructed no mention of paul manafort's role in the trump campaign, no mention trump, russia or collusion. this trial obviously centers on matters that have nothing to do with the campaign. i think that even mr. manafort as i read it had requested that there be no mention of his
brief tenure at the trump campaign several years ago. i believe there is one witness that -- there may be one matter of somebody whom he has gotten a loan from in exchange for a job on the campaign. that's just what i read. i was the campaign manager for the winning part of the campaign. i won't be brought up on federal criminal charges of any type. i certainly wasn't making money in ukraine or talking to anyone in moscow. that's very clear. this has nothing to do with collusion, russia, nothing to do with the trump campaign. >> bill: iran. if the president were to meet with iran's president, what would he get out of that? >> the president has made clear he is open to conversation and negotiation. he has done that with chairman kim, mr. putin. and he has also said if it's not a good deal for the united states and our interests and our workers and our security he will walk away any time. he is always open to negotiation and conversation. both the president and secretary pompeo made clear
iran would have to change its behavior, including to its own people. it's maligned behavior to its own people will have to stop. if it is willing to do bet you are erectically for its own people. this is a better approach than forking over lots of dollars to the iranian regime for a nuclear deal that this president has taken our country out of because he said from the beginning in a winning way was a bad deal overseen by the last administration which his political opponent was a member. >> bill: see if it happens on iran. you mentioned chairman kim. we get confirmation they're still testing missiles in north korea. what does it suggest about the success or not that came out of singapore, kellyanne? >> it suggests it's a process. you are talking about 68 years of sustained war and conflict in korea. and we're ahead of the game in this way. we have this -- several months
success on that. very close on the mid-terms. big rally for ron desantis in florida. maybe on the west coast of florida as well in tight elections. barack obama lost 63 seats in his first mid-term of 2010. this week he had a message about a possible shutdown over the lack of fund funding for a wall on the southern border. how does it help the case, a government shutdown for a mid-term election that you know will be closely watched? >> the president is focused on the other part of that, immigration. it is completely concerning to us, frustration at this point as to why congress won't do its job and pass meaningful immigration reform. this president couldn't be more clear for the last three plus years on what he thinks about a broken immigration system. he repeated it again yesterday and catch and release, releasing people into the interior of this country. ending chain migration, going to a merit-based system of
immigration and having the wall and border security. it is a stark contrast to the democratic party running to abolish ice. that keeps us all safe. which is on the front lines of stopping child smuggling and drug trafficking and other activity. seized enough fentanyl to kill every man, woman and child in this country and there would be no loss of 63 seats. president trump didn't try to do a government takeover of healthcare. instead he has cut taxes and major deregulation bringing peace and prosperity. it was a huge contrast but i have to say also what the president is doing today in tampa. he is going to tampa bay tech after he signs the perkins reauthorization. perkins is going to benefit about 11 million high school students across this country who want to go towards
vocational, technical education like many of my fellow students at the high school i went to in south jersey. they graduated from high school, graduate the technical/vocational certificate they support themselves as mechanics, carpenters, hairdressers. we need to get folks ready for the economy of today and tomorrow. we have 6.6 million available jobs looking for workers. now instead of workers and employers looking past each other they're looking for each other under the trump economy which is exciting. >> bill: we'll follow the event and watch the rally in tampa. one of the tweets from earlier today. here is one of them. one of the reasons we need great border security, mexico's murder rate in 2017 increased by 27%. a record, he writes. the democrats want to open borders. i want maximum borders security, respect for ice. he laid out the case. you know the districts well
about the contrast in this election. today what is the percentage you give of holding congress for republicans? >> i think it's better than 50%. i know with the historical trends. this is a president who defies trends and makes his own and defies history and makes his own history. as the president said he and the vice president will be very active on the campaign trail. you mentioned today again on thursday we'll be in pennsylvania, the vice president was in ohio yesterday. so the president says he will be very active. we know he is not afraid of several stops a day on a campaign trail. all the while his first priority being president of the united states. remember, those historical trends, clinton losing 54 seats and republicans taking over in 94. obama losing because of obamacare mostly and he didn't have a massive tax cut and he didn't deregulate and he didn't try to broker negotiation, denuclearization around the world like this president is,
all the while this president i think is going to be much more active. he is not telling these folks -- >> bill: no question about that. >> we know what the historical trends are but i don't think you'll see those losses. 42 republicans have retired. not something we can control. >> bill: a lot of these places where congressional districts are toss-ups. thank you, i hope you come back. kellyanne conway from the north lawn today. >> sandra: much more on one of the big stories of the day. the paul manafort trial and the test it will be for the mueller investigation. former u.s. attorney andrew mccarthy is here and join us later this hour. our headliner today. former attorney general alberto gonzalez, the latest on the mueller investigation, confirmation for judge kavanaugh. busy morning. >> bill: we need four hours. kellyanne conway made the case the president is working hard to get republicans elected in
the mid-terms. today's trip is all about florida campaigning for ron desantis running for governor. rnc chairwoman ronna mcdaniel coming up with that in moments. plus this. >> sandra: police in iowa asking anyone with any information about mollie tibbetts to please come forward. what investigators are now saying about the case. >> bill: the trump team not giving up the fight to bring home an american being held in turkey on charges of spying and terror. >> turkish officials have the authority to release andrew brunson. i believe we'll see a release of andrew brunson returning him to the united states soon. the president is leading the charge here to get our client released. he knows how to negotiate. we go to in testing our performance line, at the lexus golden opportunity sales event. lease the 2018 is 300 and is 300 awd for these terms.
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the search for mollie tibbetts. investigators have conducted more than 200 interviews in connection with this case. the 20-year-old student was last seen on july 18th while dog sitting at her boyfriend's home in central iowa. her disappearance has gained national attention as the search for her ramps up. >> bill: prime time tonight president trump in florida to give a boost to a political ally. a big year for representative desantis who will be a great governor for florida. a good race going on. strong on crime, borders and second amendment. big help on tax an regulation cuts. loves our military and vets and has my total endorsement. ronna mcdaniel is here to talk about this. he is going up against adam putnam. seems the race has changed. putnam had a lead in the polling. a lot of undecided but it broken in desantis's favor. how do you see it right now? >> you're seeing where the energy of the republican party
is right now. it is solidly behind the president. and as he has endorsed in the races you've seen a shift for the candidates he supported. you saw it last week in georgia with kemp. you've seen it with mcmaster in south carolina and kate airington. his base goes to the candidates and gives them a boost. you see it if florida. >> bill: you heard kellyanne conway put the odds on republicans keeping the control of congress. 50%. a lot of people might feel that way but we came across a few headlines today that gave us a question. byron york writes this. after 30 days of blank, gop mid-term elections fear rises. we have another one "wall street journal." trump might not mind speaker pelosi as a political foil for 2020. have you seen those pieces? what do you think? >> the president is all in on keeping the majority in the house.
we know nancy pelosi would be a disaster for our country. she called the tax cuts that have increased paychecks for millions of americans crumbs. she is completely out of touch. she will bring impeachment proceedings. these aren't things we want. we know the history. there are 23 districts where hillary clinton won where we have republicans that either held those seats or currently in those seats. we know that typically the president in the first mid-term loses seats in the first election. we're working to defy history and why we've raised record money. we just completed our national week of action where we had 4,000 people knocking on doors contacting two million voters. we know what we're up against and have a record to run on with record unemployment with isis on the run. military being funded, deregulation. economy booming, a great gdp number. there are things we can take to the american people as deliverables and say this is what we've accomplished in a year and a half. let's not turn back the clock and send it back to the
pelosi/schumer dark ages. >> bill: the tweet from the white house. the koch brothers who have become a joke are against strong borders and powerful trade. i don't need their money or bad ideas. they love my tax and regulation cuts, judicial picks and more. i made them richer. they are net -- i'm for america first and the american worker, a puppet for no one. two nice guys with bad ideas, make america great again. they give a lot of money to republicans on the senate side. how do arguments like that help? >> it was disappointing to see yesterday they aren't going to support kevin kramer in this all too important north dakota senate race. heidi heitkamp has not been a supporter of the policies the president pushed forward for this economy and kramer has.
they're ideologues not just supporting republicans. they're also supporting democrats. that's why the president has been so supportive of the rnc. the party is where the data is and where we're building our infrastructure. we do the ground game. we continue -- we're supporting republicans and majorities to pass his agenda. >> bill: thank you for your time. a little later in the show congressman ron desantis is live here at 11:30 a.m. eastern time ahead of the rally in tampa, florida. stay tuned for that. >> sandra: breaking news out of the west coast as the northern california wildfires are not letting up. get out and get out fast. that's the new warnings from fire crews on the ground there. we'll be speaking to them right after the break. >> bill: this shark was stolen and now it went back home. how did it get there? you're about to find out.
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gave the shark a hero's welcome with a standing ovation. the shark took a bow. >> sandra: it's a real thing going on here. >> bill: we have to give her a name. >> sandra: got any ideas? >> bill: sandy? too close to home? >> sandra: maybe. those sharks. >> people still need to be packed and ready to go because the fire behavior could still be very changing and shifty. we want folks in this area to still be ready to evacuate on a moment's notice if needed. >> sandra: fire crews putting folks in northern california on notice be ready to get out now. the wildfires in northern california raging on. the biggest are over 20% contained. six people have now died. joining me now by phone is deputy chief of communications for california fire scott mclean. thank you for jumping on the phone and giving us an update this morning. what can you tell us about the status of these fires and about a fifth of them contained at this point?
>> as of yesterday evening we're looking at 17 significant fires throughout the state of california. as we progress each day, we're getting better. we're fighting those different types of fires. right now other fires are taking their place. the carr fire grew to 110,000 acres over the night. there is a lot of fire activity and we hope to see some weather changes the latter part of this week into next. >> sandra: that is the big wild card right now, the weather. what is in the forecast as you look out into the week, scott? >> thursday we're looking at the temps starting to drop. not dramatically but the humidities will start to rise as well. hopefully that will calm down some of these fires where we can get into a direct fire
fight mode in certain areas of the fires instead of the indirect. >> sandra: give us an idea of the efforts underway. we are looking at images of the brave firefighters on the ground trying to contain these what you are saying 17 significant wildfires still burning across the state. what are these efforts like on the ground? >> let's go with the carr fire out of redding. driving up the highway that went through that fire highway 299 you could see the remnants of the fire fight. it is the men and women go in and start climbing the hills dragging hose and making lines and making the effort and they'll get push backed by the erratic fire behavior and take another stand and go back in trying to do the same thing over and over and over again. aircraft are involved, dozers, all our tools are involved in these fire fights. we've got 12,000 firefighters
on the line. statewide right now. more resources continue to come into the state from all over the nation. >> sandra: you just referenced the carr fire, one of the 17 burning throughout the state. so far the update we've had it scorched over 100,000 acres of land. this particular fire was started by a vehicle. what can you tell us about that? and is this the worst of the fires that we're seeing? >> for year-to-date yes. it was caused by sparks due to a mechanical situation off of a vehicle. this is the proof it only takes a spark to start the process. the fuel and vegetation is receptive to fire because it's so dry in california. >> sandra: the message to residents there? >> be prepared. the public comes to the base camps. we want to bring you food, water, clothing, whatever it
may be. their hearts are pouring. i ask that you, the public, help us. the biggest thing you can do is be prepared in case you have to evacuate. if you live in the rural areas or on the outskirts of those, be prepared. have a go kit ready to go and know how you'll get out. make sure your family knows. evacuate when the time comes. >> sandra: incredible effort underway. 3600 firefighters battling the carr fire alone. those fires continue to burn across the state. thank you very much, scott mclean, for the update this morning. >> bill: 9:30 in new york. fox news alert. searching for new evidence north korea is getting rid of its nukes fox news confirming a report the regime is still building missiles. a live report on that developing story moments away here. >> sandra: plus police arresting seven men in the country illegally for the armed robbery at a jewelry store. what we're learning about where the illegal immigrants were from and how they ended up there.
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>> sandra: trump attorney jay sekulow who represents a family who is under arrest in turkey. we're threatening large sanctions against the nato ally. let's bring in north carolina senator. >> we're glad he has been released to house arrest. that was a good first step. i will tell you the president of the united states has been incredibly engaged directly securing his release. the president is not resting until our client, andrew brunson, pastor for 23 years in turkey is returned to the united states. >> sandra: senator tillis joins us now. where does it go next? >> first, i appreciate the president's commitment. he and i have spoken about this. secretary pompeo, the
administration has real owe done great work to get us to a point where he is released on house arrest but we need to continue the pressure until he is back in the united states and reunited with his family. >> sandra: president erdogan making it clear. they can't make turkey back down with sanctions. we won't step back. is the threat of sanctions going to work and bring this pastor home? >> well, i think that we have to apply -- it's a very complex scenario in that we need turkey as a strong nato ally. they're in a complex part of the world. we understand some of the internal and external challenges that president erdogan is dealing with. this man is illegally imprisoned. he is charged with things that wouldn't keep you in jail overnight in the united states. we want just treatment for pastor brunson and talk about all the very positive things that we should be doing with turkey. >> sandra: what does it say more broadly when you look at
u.s./turkey relations, senator? >> it could have long-term consequences. i'm the co-chair of the senate nato observer group and i was trying to determine if turkey's behavior was the turkey before they were admitted into nato in 1952 if they would even be qualified to be a nato ally. we want to get back to a normal relations where we work together on military and economic issues. but this is something that's really going to harm any positive progress with turkey until this is resolved. >> sandra: i heard you start off by commending the president and his involvement in this. do you see this as an effort the president will not let back down from? >> i don't think so. the president and i spoke. i believe him when he says nobody wants pastor brunson out more than him. he has worked on this personally and had discussions with the president. he has asked members of his cabinet to work on th. i want to applaud the president for being so helpful and we need that level of engagement to
insure his release. i spoke with pastor brunson on friday and he was in good spirits being released even under house arrest. he is very much aware that could change any day. he could be back in prison. we want him out of the country and we want to also focus our attention on others who are detained that i feel like are after pastor brunson we have to have a discussion with the turkish government over. >> sandra: the threat of sanctions. how far should the u.s. be willing to go with turkey in demanding that this pastor be returned? >> i for one hope that we don't have to move forward with sanctions but i think we do have to express how committed we are to pastor brunson's release and i applaud the president for being willing to take that step. i'm sure he didn't do that lightly. this could will be resolved with the release of pastor brunson. get back to more normal relations with turkey and get back to the positive things economically and mill taerl that i would like to talk about but i can't until pastor
brunson is released. >> sandra: mike pence saying it's a welcome first step when referencing the pastor's house arrest but he has warned erdogan several times in recent days that turkey will face consequences if they refuse to release this pastor. how ultimately do you expect turkey to respond to this sort of pressure from the united states, senator? >> i'm guardedly optimistic we'll get to a positive outcome. we need to keep him out of the prison, under house arrest. let them go through whatever legal processes they need to go through and get him home soon. >> sandra: the president has been engaged with this and we have seen that fight. as far as you, senator thom tillis, you recently spoke to the pastor. how is his communication with his family at this point? they are a huge part of this effort to bring home their family member. >> noreen, his wife, has been the foundation that helped pastor brunson go through
almost two years of incarceration. his daughter, jacquelin and i met last week or the week before last with his son-in-law. he has been in contact with family members under the terms of the house arrest. he is able to reach out and speak with members of the family. was able to speak with me and suspect he will speak with other members of congress. it's a great first step. he was really in prison for almost 17 months in a cell designed for eight that had 21 people in it. he is at least around the familiar environment of his home and now i want him to be in the very familiar environment of his home in north carolina. >> sandra: the president said he will not rest to quote jay sekulow, the president will not rest until andrew brunson is returned home to the united states. good to have you on the program this morning. >> bill: let's get him home. fox news alert on the korean peninsula. new satellite images reportedly
show the nuclear regime is building new missiles. greg palkot live now. what more do we know about the missile site, greg? >> fox confirming the reports that north korea is now busy once again building more missiles. u.s. officials telling fox news it is business as usual at a factory near pyongyang that builds intercontinental ballistic missile capable of reaching the united states showing there is no evidence of a halt of work. we're talking about the long range missiles used three times last year in test firings that could potentially reach the east coast of the united states. recent work activity visible. that comes after, of course, the summit last month involving president trump and north korean leader kim jong-un in which there was a commitment for denuclearization and comes amid a meeting today at the dmz between north and south korean generals trying to calm things down at the tense border.
no commitment made at that meeting. >> bill: what does it mean for the efforts. >> there was no promise to denuclearize from kim last month. last week we heard from secretary pompeo saying north korea is still making fissile material used in bombs. uranium enrichment plant, another missile plant revealed but they've taken measures, in fact, to bring down the temperature a little bit, dismantling a site and the return of the remains of those u.s. service members. repatriation happening tomorrow. it's a mixed bag. i think we need to be careful. back to you. >> bill: greg palkot in london on that. >> sandra: paul manafort appearing in court today as jury selection kicks off for his trial. why it is considered the first real test in robert mueller's investigation. >> bill: new reaction from the president on special counsel's
probe. andrew mccarthy joins us next. >> you don't just get to interview the president. you have to show there is a serious crime and he is the only one that can give you the information you need. that's why rudy keeps saying there is no crime. if there is no crime what's the point of having the conversation?
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what were the circumstances? >> the conduct has been out there. what happened here is this involves political consulting work that manafort and other people his partner, richard gates who pled guilty in mueller's investigation, this is conduct they were involved in going back to around 2004 and forward to about 2014 and a little bit beyond. so what the justice department has apparently -- this comes out of manafort's camp, what they have looked at is the question whether he ought to be prosecuted for failing to register as a foreign agent for the work he did for this ukrainian political faction and what they claim is they looked at that conduct, that is the justice department did and opted not to prosecute him. when mueller came in he revived that investigation. >> bill: what's different now? paul manafort worked for trump's campaign and his lawyers would come in and argue that you are just trying to get
the president. and the judge referred to that in may. so how does that factor into this trial? >> that has the virtue of being both true and something that you are allowed to do if you're a prosecutor. it is a common thing even though it's not a pretty thing that prosecutors like to talk about but it is a common thing for them to squeeze people for information to try to make a case on other people. >> bill: the prosecutors have said in court already there is no mention of russia in this trial. how is that possible? he was working for a pro-russian politician in ukraine and made a lot of money doing it. >> it doesn't have anything to do with the 2016 election. the rationale for mueller's investigation is russia interfered with the 2016 election and the suspicion that the trump campaign, which supposedly benefited from that, may have had some participation in it. but this case, while it has been called the first test of mueller's investigation, to my mind really isn't. it's a test of whether he can
get manafort convicted of something but it really tells us very little about the thing he is here to investigate and it is a fair question to ask, bill, what do we need a special counsel for? this really does not go to the reason the special counsel was appointed in the first place, which was a justice department conflict of interest with respect to russia's interference in the election and any trump campaign participation. >> bill: and on that point in day one of this case that's what manafort's attorneys were in court arguing. this is outside the bounds of what the special counsel was appointed to do. can you win on that? >> they can't because the justice department has the power to grant the jurisdiction to the special counsel to bring the case and they opted to do that. the regulations that the manafort people cite i think they're correct when they say the justice department didn't comply with all the special counsel regulations but those regulations also say they don't create any rights that are
enforceable against the justice department. >> bill: two days rudy giuliani has been talking a lot. collusion is not a crime. there was no collusion accepted by crooked hillary and the democrats and we learned by john roberts there will be no interview with bob mueller. that's gone back and forth. you made the case to sandra last night working for martha, you don't get the right to interview a president. you have to show that there is a crime or the possibility of something involved that would involve him. >> right. >> bill: this is not a free pass. >> think about it this way. there are hundreds, thousands of federal prosecutors in the country. what if every one of them who thought the president might have information to bring into his investigation got to subpoena the president and bring him in. the president wouldn't be able to do his very important job which is much more important, by the way, than a prosecutor's job, right? so the president has executive privilege and generally speaking in the justice
department, in order to get that kind of access to the president, to get an interview, to even ask for an interview you would have to show there was a serious crime at issue that the president was somehow implicated in and that the president was the source of information that you, the prosecutor, could not get from any other source. >> bill: that's why giuliani says right -- write a report and show us what you've got. >> that's a reasonable request because forget about investigative secrecy, it is more important for the public to know if the president is a suspect. if he is let's hear what it's about. job well done. thank you for being back with us. >> sandra: president trump getting some big praise this morning from j.p. morgan chase ceo jamie diamond and why he says president trump should get all the credit for the booming economy. >> bill: massive jewelry heist leads to seven arrests. it's where these men are from that is raising a few eyebrows. stay tuned for that and we'll tell you next.
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>> sandra: according to federal law enforcement sources the seven men charged with trying to rob a texas jewelry store over the weekend were in america illegally. william la jeunesse is live in los angeles on this. william. >> well, sandra, most immigrants come to the united states looking for a better life but not through crime. the seven mexicans you see here, the mug shots snuck over the border in texas two weeks ago to rob a jewelry store in mcallen. customers thought they heard gunshots when the gang broke display cases to steal watches and diamond rings. that prompted the 911 call of an active shooter. police rolled out the swat team. take a look at the surveillance video from inside the store. you will see a security guard top left a family on the right stunned as these seven masked
thieves rush in, one holding a gun, orders the security guard to lay down. moments later a local police officer working mall security will storm in, gun drawn. he gets unexpected backup from the guy in the red shirt, an armed citizen with a conceal carry permit. they secured the scene. the seven are between 17 and 43 years old. all were apprehended for entering the united states illegally. charges with aggravated robbery, bond set at $200,000 each. they want u.s. taxpayers to pay their lawyer because they claim to be broke. local news reports say the men paid $4500 to get smuggled over the border. a felony. they could be deported before or after their sentencing. >> sandra: thank you. >> bill: the trial for former paul manafort about to get underway. how this could effect the
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welcome-to-to a new hour of "america's newsroom." i'm sandra smith. >> bill: i'm bill hemmer. paul manafort in court at this hour. kellyanne conway saying it is about paul manafort, not the president. >> i certainly wasn't making money in ukraine or talking to anyone in moscow. that's very clear. this has nothing to do with collusion, russia, nothing to do with the trump campaign. >> bill: peter doocy live from district court in alexandria, virginia. >> the government's case against paul manafort is expected to focus less on allegations of wrongdoing while he was the trump campaign chairman and more on allegations that he cheated on his taxes years before. manafort this morning was taken from jail to the albert v. bryan courthouse in a van for
the high-profile proceedings where special counsel robert mueller's team alleges there are $60 million he earned over the years lobbying or consulting for politicians in ukraine that never popped up on a pay stub. the judge in this case, t.s. ellis, has said in the course of these proceedings it is his opinion the mueller team is using the financial charges that have nothing to do with the 2016 election to get manafort to dish dirt on the trump campaign but he thought about it and allowed the trial to continue anyway. the mueller team in the courtroom is led by andrew wiseman whose specialties are organized crime services in the d.o.j. manafort's lawyers made a big stir when they arrived this morning led by kevin downing who worked for years on the other side as the justice department tax case prosecutor and the manafort team's job is to get the jury, being selected this morning, to think like president trump who has said
recently that he feels badly for paul manafort, somebody who only worked for his campaign a few months but wound of having years and years of his financial records scrutinized by the special counsel all leading to today. >> bill: peter doocy starting our coverage there. >> sandra: a major test for mueller and the russia investigation. let's go to the a-team, john mccormack senior writer at the weekly standard, morgan ortagus from the treasury department and richard fowler. this is a big test. >> having worked in the treasury department and financial intelligence it comes back to the money. you can always follow the money. that's what this case is about. the president and his team will go at length to show that this isn't about russian collusion, it is about manafort's shady activity for many years that people knew about. so the democrats are clearly going to try to use this and keep the russia investigation in the press but i think we'll see what happens with the
lawyers. when it comes to the money, when it comes to following the money and the finances, i did this for many years as it relates to terrorism and it's typically where you tend to get people. >> for this to advance the whole russia investigation as it affects the presidential campaign we need new information that we don't have yet. the thing everyone is waiting for is to see is manafort going to provide new information about the trump tower meeting with don junior, man fort and the russians. that's speculations. >> bill: will it come up in the trial? >> i don't think so. >> as andy mccarthy pointed out mueller could squeeze him and offer him a deal. that assumes manafort has information to give. this is all speculation. kind of speculation outpacing the known facts. >> i think john makes a good point. this first test for the mueller team. will they get a prosecution and will mueller go to jail.
will he be sentenced. will he give information about what happened in that trump tower meeting between don junior, himself, and a couple of other individuals part of the trump campaign and will the mueller team sort of stand the test of time? that will be the big question as we begin the first day of this trial and jury selection, whether or not the mueller team is tough enough. >> sandra: kellyanne said the judge instructed no mention of his role in the trump campaign or russia or collusion. >> this is just the democrat fantasy we'll get a huge russia revelation from manafort in this campaign. this is a classic money laundering financial scam case that the prosecutors are pursuing and that's what will come out of it. everyone would love theatrics before november but i don't think you'll get that. >> i don't think democrats are wishing for some major russia bombshell.
>> richard. >> i don't think they're waiting for a major bombshell from the manafort investigation. what we're pointing to is trump has paraded himself is a great businessman who picks great people and manafort isn't a good person and head of the campaign for four months. he ran this campaign and for some -- he got trump to the convention. that's a big deal. >> bill: we're all guessing right now. let's leave it as a guess as it gets underway. iran, what a bombshell this was yesterday. the president sends out a threatening message a week ago and yesterday at the news conference with the italian prime minister he says the following at the white house. >> president trump: i believe in meeting. i would certainly meet with iran if they wanted to meet. i don't know they're ready yet. they're having a hard time right now. i ended the iran deal. it was a ridiculous deal. i do believe they'll end up wanting to meet and i'm ready to meet any time they want to. i don't do that from strength
or weakness. i think it's an appropriate thing to do. if we could work something out that's meaningful, not the waste of paper that the other deal was, i would certainly be willing to meet. >> bill: take that invitation, john. >> this is the continuation of president barack obama's diplomacy. he got roasted by republicans and hillary clinton in 2007-2008 saying he would meet without pre-conditions with leaders of rogue regimes. talking for the sake of talking is a mistake. if you don't go in there with a strategic goal you go off script and say things like kim jong-un is a leader who loves his people and they love him with great fervor. you give legitimacy to the most brutal dictator in the world and entertain ideas that vladimir putin throws out there, russia is investigating and interrogating americas. talking for the sake of talking is a bad idea but an idea that has bipartisan support.
>> sandra: it is not stopping critics from questioning the move by the president. >> my question is who would he talk to? would he talk to rohany or the ayatollah. it's the ayatollah running the government, not rouhani. >> bill: iran is being squeezed. >> i'm like -- i was incredibly critical of the iran deal and people talk about the president's rhetoric and policy actions relating to russia or north korea. when you look at pompeo, mattis, bolton, all his top administration officials are pushing his policy and testifying on the hill. they caught a moment of vulnerability for this regime and wise to continue to push back against iran and i hope that's the policy they continue with. >> meeting with them is not the answer. it comes down to the straits of
-- if there is any messing around the movement of oil out of the middle east and we don't find a way to keep that strait open that's going to change world trade. >> i agree with richard why the straits are so important. you saw the iranians captured the american sailors and embarrassed us nationally. the iranians will never do that to president trump i will predict. >> bill: everybody is talking about the mid-terms. can you go anywhere? >> it's why i stay out of the politics. >> bill: ronna mcdaniel, a big rally tonight in tampa. the president is trying to drive turnout. ron desantis gets the support tonight. >> you're seeing where the energy of the republican party is right now and it is solidly behind the president. and as he has endorsed in the
races you've seen a shift for the candidates he supported. you saw it with kemp, mcmaster in south carolina and kate arrington in south carolina. as he endorses the candidates his base goes to the candidates. >> sandra: how important is the president when it comes to these endorsements in the mid-terms? >> it's very important in the republican primaries. what is more interesting about florida is the senate race. confounding expectations with rick scott running for senate. expect a purple state like florida if there is a blue wave florida wouldn't be on the map. this is a toss-up. rick scott is up a few points in some polls, down in other. >> bill: a good governor. >> very popular with the hispanic community in florida. running above what some other republicans have done. so that's a real race to watch in a way that tennessee surprising the democrats are pulling ahead there and surprising that republicans are in the fight. >> i couldn't agree more.
as a fifth generation floridian and a miss citrus. bill nelson has been incredibly weak for many years. it's surprising we haven't been able to beat him before now. that senate race is one i'll watch. i expect rick scott to pull out. i would say in the florida race the governor's race clearly the president is giving a big advantage to ron desantis. don't count adam putnam out. pam bondi has endorsed him. when it comes to local politics on the ground the sheriffs are all behind putnam. that will be a real race. >> the problem with the president weighing in on the primaries he will pick those farther to the right. florida is a purple state and have 60,000 new residents from puerto rico and they have an axe to grind with the president and change the voter registration and likely vote democrats. this is going to be a big race to watch for the democratic
party and the big race to watch for the republicans. i think you can't look at florida in a vacuum. you need to look at all the races. the president threatening a government shutdown, a lot of races to watch. the koch brothers saying we're willing to play with republicans and democrats like heidi heitkamp in the dakotas. an interesting mid-term to say the least. >> we'll be in tampa tonight. a big year for desantis. strong of crime, borders, big help on tax and regulations. he has my full and total endorsement. here is what's going on. with exception of the pennsylvania race, when the president inserts himself into the election he moves the meter. adam putnam was ahead in the polls two months ago. it has changed entirely and desantis would give credit to trump. >> the president owns the party. 88 to 90% approval ratings among the gop. republican president fantasize over that. the key will be, i think,
vulnerable house districts around the country can the president's magic come out in those districts and help republicans keep the house. >> he moves the primary but not the general election. we saw in alabama he engaged in the primary, got more out of the primary and lost the general election bigly in his words. he weighs in on the primary but he cannot pull it out in the general which will be the biggest problem for republicans in the mid-term elections. >> in the primaries his endorsement matters when both candidates aren't well-known. in alabama he went for luther strange and he lost. when he goes in somewhere like georgia both candidates are well-known his endorsement matters a lot. >> sandra: a-team will be back for more. >> bill: the president wants to talk to bob mueller. seems like his legal team are saying ain't going to happen. judge alberto gonzales is here on that. did you see this from last night? roll it.
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because a lot of things we did hurt ourselves. >> sandra: he sounds excited about what he is seeing. >> he is excited. it creates things for banks like j.p. morgan. he is right. critics will say what exactly did trump do. show me. the day after he was elected all the indicators, whether it was from housing confidence, small business confidence, even consumer confidence went through the roof. that's what you need first. and then what we're seeing now is a manifestation of all that and creates a cycle. the more people that get hired the more money they spend, the more money they spend the more people you have to hire. we're in the midst of that right nou. >> sandra: jamie diamond, to be clear, is a democrat, right? >> he is a democrat and also a globalist and he does things like with the business round table. he is the kind of guy -- these people benefit from the status
quo big time. they typically don't want anyone rocking the boat. >> sandra: to be clear, he has been critical of the president in the past and even at one point predicted he would be a one-term president. watch this clip. >> if i had to bet i would bet 3 1/2 but the democrats have to come with a reasonable candidate. if they have a complete leftist candidate trump will win again. >> sandra: he will ask how long with the president last. 3 1/2 years he suggested. he has come around on this president. >> i think a lot of people will ultimately given time and when reality overtakes the hype and the news feeds and the opinion pages, when reality is an individual -- >> sandra: hard economic numbers. >> you wake up and you are making more money and you have a job and a relative who thought they would never get back into the workforce because they add criminal record or something like that and they're working. things start to ignore the
headlines that have swayed your opinion until then. >> bill: it's all about your pocket and my pocket, right, about sandra? >> sandra: always about me, hemmer. >> we want everyone to do well around us. it starts at home. >> bill: let's talk about the markets. we talk about it every commercial. true story. we saw some high flyers take pretty big hits this past week, facebook, netflix, a bit of amazon and google. they have been responsible for a lot of the run-up we've seen. >> almost all of it. six or seven names have been responsible for the gains. amazon was responsible for 36% of the overall move. what we're seeing now is these companies they grow fast but the expectations get higher and higher and higher and what we're seeing now is a couple of them will have some trouble right now getting the benefit of the doubt.
facebook under a tremendous amount of pressure. in the last five days it's down 19% down for the year. netflix for a little while. netflix did pretty good. the ceo overhyped what they were going to do and didn't deliver on it. >> sandra: what's happening today. triple digit gain, the dow up 107 points as we speak. what's leading it? >> we were going to open flat and we came up big. big report out that the united states and china have restarted trade negotiations. what i find interesting about this, before that report in china this morning, they came out with some key manufacturing data. one of their most important manufacturing pieces of manufacturing data had a 23-month low. they're feeling the pain. it would behoove them to come to the table and cut a deal very quickly. and i think that's why you saw the news this morning. >> bill: you think we have leverage on that? >> we have so much more leverage than anyone would
expect. they talked about soybeans being a mid-term election issue and they tried to write off friday's gdp report as a -- the gains are enormous and we can't underscore how much power america has. this is our last chance to fix this. this is the last chance, folks. if you like it the way it is now that's fine. it is not going to get better unless we make it better. >> sandra: charles payne bringing the pain. >> great seeing you. >> sandra: fox news alert. the father of a missing iowa college student making a desperate plea for help. >> she is a very special person and we all feel that. but we need her back. she needs to be back in school, she needs to finish her degree. >> sandra: what investigators are now saying as the search intensifies for mollie tibbetts. >> bill: paul manafort becoming
mueller's first target facing trial this hour. alberto gonzales is our headliner coming up next.
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information from it. mollie is described as an avid runner known to wear her fit bit to give authorities critical information including her exact gps location and heart rate. have investigators pull information from that. she was staying at her boyfriend's house in brooklyn, iowa, when she went missing. her boyfriend was working 100 miles away and not named as a suspect. mollie's father is pleading to the public. >> if nobody has anything to hide they have nothing to fear. let law enforcement sort out what's right and wrong and have the courage to come forward and find mollie. she needs to be back in school, she needs to finish her degree. get her masters, ph.d., get married, buy a house, have kids. these are things we talked about. she has her whole life planned out. she needs to get on with her life so we have to find her.
>> mollie's laptop and social media might reveal she made it back inside her boyfriend's house the day she went missing. we'll bring you the latest in this case. >> sandra: that family desperate for any tips or leads that may still come in. >> bill: 10:30 in new york. a dramatic showdown in virginia. the trial for trump's former campaign manager paul manafort is underway. it will be the first test for the special counsel bob mueller and his investigation. want to bring in our headliner on that note judge alberto gonzales. former a.g. under george w. bush and author of a book. congratulations on the book and thanks for being our headliner. >> always good to be on your show. >> bill: what do you think is important to watch in the manafort matter now? >> well, i think bob mueller and his team by all accounts
has really i think established a strong predicate for successful prosecution here. i think we're on the eve -- i think the chances of paul manafort trying to reach some kind of deal has passed us and i think the trial is going to proceed and we have to see the case be laid out by the prosecution. by all accounts paul manafort believes he is innocent and will be able to be successful in this trial. that remains to be seen. i had a lot of confidence in bob mueller when he was my f.b.i. director. i suspect he has done his homework and worked with the team and has a strong case. we'll have to see what happens. i don't know whether paul manafort believes he is innocent. i assume he does. there is a lot of risk for him and his liberty. perhaps he is also hoping or anticipating that if unsuccessful the president may pardon him. we'll have to wait and see. that's a long shot. i don't think you go into this
thinking even if i get convicted i still may get a pardon. that's a big risk. he obviously has a lot on the table. >> sandra: based on everything you just said is it fair to say this is the first big test of the mueller probe? >> well, i wouldn't call it part of the mueller probe. i think this is a case that probably would have been brought irrespective of the appointment of a special counsel. wrongdoing -- the alleged wrongdoing was discovered in connection with the mueller probe but it is quite possible that this would have come to light in any event. and so i don't really consider this part of the russia probe. i think this is simply a case where bob mueller has found evidence that an american citizen has engaged in bank fraud and tax evasion and so because it does come out of his investigation of russian meddling, the mandate given to him by rod rosenstein, allows him to go forward with this prosecution and that's what he is doing. >> bill: i think kellyanne conway agrees with you.
she was with us last hour and characterized it the same way. listen to what she said. >> the judge has very strictly instructed no mention of paul manafort's role in the trump campaign. this trial obviously centers on matters that have nothing to do with the campaign. i think that even mr. manafort, as i read it, had requested that there be no mention of his brief tenure at the trump campaign. >> bill: andrew mccarthy chipped in last hour. he called in a bigger question about the fundamentals what are happening-in-law. >> this case, while it has been called the first test of mueller's investigation, to my mind really isn't. it's a test of whether he can get manafort convicted of something but it really tells us very little about the thing he is here to investigate. it's a fair question to ask,
bill, what do we need a special counsel for? >> bill: can you answer that? >> i agree that a normal prosecutor outside the authority of a special counsel could have prosecuted this case. but that would have been a waste of resources in my judgment given the fact that the special counsel's office in connection with the mueller probe has discovered all this information and does have the authority to -- the broad authority under the rosenstein grant of authority to move forward with this prosecution. so i think it would be a waste of resources and time to simply have allocated this to another office and so, you know, but i totally agree. >> bill: has -- >> a prosecutor that didn't have a special counsel designation could have brought this. >> the special counsel law, has it gone too broad? >> well, i think it's a question of who you ask. if you're on the law enforcement side probably say maybe not.
if you're someone that is subject to possible investigation unrelated to the initial charge for the special counsel you might say that it has gone overboard. if you ask bill clinton he would say it is too broad quite frankly. but again the question here is whether or not a federal crime has been committed irrespective of who will prosecute it and who is investigating it. has a federal crime been committed and if so it should be investigate i had and prosecuted. people who engage in wrongdoing should be held to account. >> sandra: based on that it's still a question because robert mueller won't tell us to be asked. shouldn't the president be asked to sit down with a one-on-one with mueller. >> that's a question for the special counsel to ask and there are stories reporting that request has been made and, of course, the key question is whether or not will the president sit down for an interview. most defense lawyers would say
and advise their client not to sit down for an interview. i think there is a legitimate question whether or not a president could even be prosecuted for perjury. there is i think a legitimate question as to how far a prosecutor can go in trying to force a president to produce evidence such as documents orrall testimony. these are all questions that could be teed up depending on the way bob mueller decides to move forward with the investigation and future prosecution. >> bill: brett kavanaugh will move forward. rand paul says he is a yes. that probably clears the path for his ascension to the supreme court. you are talking about the outrageous excuse given opposed to his service because he served in the bush administration. what should we know about comments from people like chuck schumer on the floor of the senate who said the following. >> senate republicans are only
requesting documents from two of the five years that judge kavanaugh was in the white house. only documents from his time in the white house counsel's office, not as staff secretary. >> bill: you have that. some are suggesting it could be a million pages or more from his time at the white house. what do you think of that, sir? >> i think it's unfair to paint brett with responsibility or authority with respect to every piece of paper that goes to the staff secretary's office and finds its way to the president of the united states. the job of the staff secretary is to make sure the appropriate people with responsibility and expertise weigh in on policy matters so that when documents go to the president, everyone who has information with respect to that particular issue has commented on that policy issue. and again, brett's role as staff secretary was not in any way to shape policy but make sure appropriate people have looked at the issue at hand. i think to paint brett with
responsibility for everything that went through that staff secretary's office quite frankly is unfair. >> sandra: should he be confirmed? >> no question in my mind he should be confirmed unless there is something in his background that i'm unaware of. he has been vetted before. brett was one of my lawyers when i was white house counsel. very bright and hard working, a person of great integrity from my perspective. not arrogant. people liked working with brett and i think his service on the d.c. circuit has been outstanding. i think he would make a fine justice on the u.s. supreme court. >> bill: i hope you come back soon. thank you for your time, alberto gonzales. our headliner today. thank you, sir. >> sandra: the tsa firing back against a new report that claims they are spying on everyday americans while traveling through u.s. airports and in the air. is their surveillance program protecting against 9/11 style attacks or big brother going too far? our a-team is here. >> bill: president trump back
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next flight to monitor the person seems a little creepy to me. it's a new program. i think you need to know if you are actually stopping anything. the previous behavior of federal air marshals was to go on high-risk flights not track specific people. these are public locations, but a lot of questions need to be answered here. >> sandra: what they're doing with the information they seem to be gathering. they are reporting federal air marshals are tracking everyday u.s. citizens that are going about their daily behavior, whether traveling through the airports or on the airplane itself. >> transparency and accountability. making sure the tsa is accountable and transparent to the american people coming on the heels of the big story from the tsa a couple weeks ago of their pack-on procedures. intrusive at best. tsa has a bad track record and now tracking how you stare at them and understanding a lot of americans who have travel
anxiety, who don't like to fly. giving somebody a cold stare in tsa isn't necessarily a reason to get tracked. >> bill: we're no different to the cop on the corner placed this because there is an increased possibility that something might happen. when you're in a tube at 30,000 feet it makes sense to put someone there. end quote. >> as a frequent flier i can't believe i'm about to defend the tsa but this is the debate we've been having for 17 years about privacy versus security since 9/11. if we look, the tsa's mission is to prevent an attack by using an airline or at an airport. think about what happened and you know this well from your business background, after 9/11 and the stock market. we saw several airlines that went bankrupt following those attacks. it is not only the safety and security of the airways, it is that we have to have confidence in the security of our air travel around the country. very important to business as
well. >> sandra: john, the tsa in their defense talks about observing behavioral detection and that's where the gray line lies, right? the globe shows the checklist for armed undercover air marshals that ask if the passenger in question is gripping or white knuckling their bags, have a jump in their adams apple or cold, penetrating stare. >> you are worried that they're checking the box. he was gripping his bag tightly and now he is on a list. my boss was on a terror watch list. there are mistakes in the bureaucracies. it is a good thing focusing on behavior. you go overseas and people observe your behavior. if someone is competent and qualified to observe behavior you want to look for things that are unusual. that's what people should be doing. you are worried that -- >> sandra: the story fascinates
people. it's a computer algorithm. then it goes to a human team and they look for red flags in actual background. >> this is a see-saw we've been dealing with for 17 years. i land on the side the terrorists win we give up our civil liberties. how much you grip a bag or have a stare. >> bill: i signed up for clear. >> it's not just the cold stare. it is also a pattern of flying behavior. the human team and algorithm. if you get off a flight from saudi arabia. someone flies from dubuque in albuquerque. >> gripping a bag, cold stare. >> bill: this malaysian air flight mystery will never be solved. not pilot air.
it is like the amelia earhart story of our day. we will never return. >> maybe the messiah returned and we all got left but that plane. >> bill: that would make a story. >> sandra: thank you a-team. >> bill: lebron james is calling out the white house, what's new on that? we'll tell you why. a new survey says people drinking and shopping are a bad combo. >> have you ever done it? >> the 24/7 crew apparently has.
bringing up a point lebron says we can all agree with as sports fan. sports was always the saving grace. we have sports to keep us from talking about politics. but the two now have intersected and leah gabriel brought up a good point. who started this? who kneeled first? colin kaepernick kneeled first and the president responded to this because i believe the commissioner of the nfl did not do so in a strong enough, effective matter. what started as a one or two alarm fire is like five or six alarms and no one has a clue how to put it out. >> sandra: how are fans responding to lebron's remarks here? >> people who are pro-trump will bash what he says and vice versa. lebron james is a powerful figure. >> bill: a lot of people listen to him. moving to l.a. will give him a bigger voice. do you think he has a future in politics? >> if he wanted to he could. he opened up a public school
for at-risk third and fourth graders. he has much bigger dreams than just the basketball court. you wonder if lebron james -- he is not running for president. if he said i want to become the president, he would get some votes. >> he was asked that question last night. if nobody else is going to run for office and president trump was going to win and you were the only saving grace for the democratic party would you run? he said yeah, maybe i would. i don't know if politics is really in his future but he was asked that question. >> bill: will he be #46? >> no, no. >> #23 times two. i don't think so. >> he was asked last night also if he was sitting across the table from the president, what would he say to the president? he said i would never sit across the table from president trump. and my question here is how are people supposed to come together if you can't even talk to the people that you disagree with? i also think that president
trump missed a major opportunity when he disinvited the golden state warriors and eagles to the white house as well. it could have been a cool moment that he missed. i think people need to come together and start talking about it in a serious way. >> sandra: so many ask themselves is it a good idea to drink and shop? >> i will say it's not a good idea. i'll get to why later. but there was a new study that found out that people spend $30 billion a year shopping while drinking. essentially drunk shopping. the interesting thing here how much you spend depends on what you drink. gin drinkers spend the most. >> also the shopping late friday night. people are buying lingerie big time on friday nights. an interesting one. kids know what their parents,
they see mom or dad has had a few and the perfect time to ask for the toy or something and kids do it. they know their parents. have we ever made a purchase that our inhibitions were down? >> it's so easy to shop online now. a click of a button and you have your perfect toy. >> sandra: if you do it, save it to the cart and maybe push the purchase button on the cart the next day when you put thought into it. >> i've never done that before. >> outside of a pizza? >> pizza for sure and why it's a bad idea. 50% of people returning the things that they purchased when they do this. >> maybe not so good for the retailers. >> eating choices. you are more likely to say i'll get that. there is a reason why in nevada it's against the law for casinos to allow visibly drunk customers to gamble. there is a reason why. >> what a story. thanks to both of you.
>> bill: trump and lebron would get along very well for the record. >> i'm with you. >> sandra: we're watching the images coming out of california this morning. monster wildfires sweeping across the west as firefighters from across the country run in to help crews stretched to the limit. we're live on the ground there in moments. plus another big story we're watching today. president trump saying he is willing to meet with iran's president without any pre-conditions. congressman lee zeldin is on go deck and the push for stronger border security from the trump administration. all this is our third hour of "america's newsroom." come right back. sleep cycle... ...so you can seize the morning. new! zzzquil pure zzzs. new laptop with 24/7 tech support. yep, thanks guys. i think he might need some support. yes
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>> sandra: fox news alert on new reaction to the president's offer to the leader of iran, a sit-down with no strings attached. welcome to a brand-new hour of "america's newsroom." good tuesday morning. i'm sandra smith. >> bill: i'm bill hemmer. good morning. president trump says he is ready to meet any time anywhere where the iranian president as he has had two other high-profile sit-downs with adversaries. kellyanne conway making that point on "america's newsroom." >> the president has made clear he is open to conversation and negotiation. he has done that with chairman kim and mr. putin. he has always said if it's not a good deal for the united states and our interest and workers and security he will walk away any time. he is always open to negotiation and conversation.
>> bill: john roberts on the north lawn with us today. john, good morning. starting a new hour, how are you? >> good morning. i'm doing fine, thanks. the president again playing his bad cop/good cop routine this time with iran. yesterday at a press conference with the italian prime minister surprising the nation by saying that he would be willing to meet with iran's leader rouhani without pre-condition. listen here. >> president trump: i believe in meeting. i would certainly meet with iran if they wanted to meet. i don't know if they're ready net. they're having a hard time now. i don't do it from strength or weakness. it is an appropriate thing to do. if we could work something out that's meaningful. not the waste of paper that the other deal was, i would certainly be willing to meet. >> the offer follows a stern warning from the president on twitter two weeks ago when he threatened iran with consequences the likes of which through throughout history have
ever suffered. the immediate reaction was to reject talks unless the u.s. goes back to the iran deal. they said the united states is not trustworthy. how could we trust this country when it withdraws from the nuclear deal? the president is following the script that he followed with north korea, harsh sanctions, punishing rhetoric against the leadership eventually ending up in a meeting which may or may not lead anywhere in the long term. the president also taking aim at the powerful koch brothers who pledged 400 million to support policy and candidates the president tweeting out this morning, quote, the globalist koch brothers who have become a joke in real republican -- i don't need their money or bad ideas. they love my tax and regulation cuts, judicial picks and more. i made them richer.
their network is highly overrated. they want to protect their companies outside the u.s. from being taxed. i'm for the american worker. two nice guys with bad ideas, make america great again. the tweet comes after the koch brothers announced yesterday that they were not going to throw their support behind kevin kramer, the republican candidate for the senate seat in north dakota locked in a tight race with the democrat heidi heitkamp. here is what the rnc chairwoman said earlier this morning. >> it was very disappointing to see they won't support kevin kramer in this all-too important north dakota senate race. heitkamp hasn't been a supporters of the policies of the president and kevin kramer has. >> the race is an important one. the gop thinks they may be able to pick up a seat increasing margins in the senate. the real clear politics average
has the race within a single point. kramer leads by a half point. the koch brothers oppose the president's plan on tariffs. there is at least a couple of areas there where they are clearly in disagreement. >> bill: thank you, john. nice to see you. thank you, sir. >> sandra: president trump heading to florida a bit later today for another big mid-term campaign rally. this one for ron desantis who is running for governor in that all-important swing state. minutes from now we will be speaking with desantis live but first rnc chair ronna mcdaniel earlier on "america's newsroom." >> you're seeing where the emergency of the republican party is now, solidly behind the president. as he endorses these candidates his base goes to these candidate and gives them a big boost and you are seeing it in florida right now. >> sandra: mike warren with us now. are you seeing the energy of the republican party as ronna
mcdaniel just said solidly behind this president? >> certainly among primary voters. we saw that recently in georgia where the georgia republican nominee brian kemp got a big boost in the runoff because of an endorsement from president trump. it seems to me the most important issue in any contested republican primary is donald trump and whether or not you are behind donald trump or not. or whether or not you are strong enough supporter of donald trump. ron desantis running against adam putnam. putnam a long-time florida politician. young but in congress and the state legislature and agriculture commissioner and checked all the right boxes, ron desantis has supported the president and an ad showing him reading to his infant son the art of the deal. so grab onto donald trump. >> sandra: building the wall, right? >> yes. you have to grab onto donald trump if you want to succeed
and really that's the most and maybe the only important thing in a primary. >> sandra: speaking of ads. adam putnam got the endorsement of pam bondi. she was a staunch trump supporter and went to bat for the president. she is now in putnam's camp. what a difference a debate and endorsement by the president makes when you look at that particular race with ron desantis and adam putnam. >> i think the momentum has gone in desantis's direction. a couple of recent polls showing him ahead of putnam and i think the writing is on the wall. you have president trump going down there, very popular among florida republicans. and i think that you are likely to see what happened to brian kemp happen to ron desantis. it is really the only issue. i haven't seen or heard anything in the debates or in these ads that really distinguishes the two candidates on any issues. really the only important issue
here is donald trump. >> sandra: meanwhile the president's next move as far as his policies are concerned in the potential he is saying no pre-conditions necessary with a potential meeting with the iranian president. a lot of reaction pouring into that this morning. any time, anywhere, says the president. >> this seems like something that was an off the cuff remark from the president. i'm told there is nothing really being discussed at the white house about any kind of meeting. again, last week there was this blowup over twitter and i think there is a big question here that supporters of the president need to be asking, which is could the president be willing to go and renegotiate a nuclear deal that essentially recasts the sanctions relief the obama nuclear deal did? these sanctions that are coming that have got the iranians really upset are having a big effect. even the sanctions aren't there yet and having a big effect on
the economy. but i think there is a fear among some iran hawks the president might be willing to renegotiate and pull those sanctions off again if he is in some kind of one-on-one meeting with rouhani or anybody in the iranian regime. >> sandra: mike warren, senior writer at the weekly standard. you set it up for us. that big rally will be happening tonight down in florida with the president and 7:00 hour. it's expected. >> bill: we'll be watching it. fox news alert on the raging wildfires in california. crews are battling more than a dozen fires. triple digit temperatures. the winds are gusty. thousands of buildings are burned or destroyed and countless residents forced from their homes. jeff paul live in redding, california by the carr fire, the biggest of those burning now. how are things today? good morning. >> good morning, bill. the carr fire continues to grow in size but containment levels are up now at 27%. firefighters tell us that they feel like they have a better
hold on this fire and as a result they're starting to allow the first round of evacuees to return home. unfortunately many of them are pulling into their driveways to find a scene like this. as you take a look over here you can see house after house in this redding neighborhood destroyed. many residents coming home will have to face that reality that they have lost everything. the fire right now is at 110,000 acres. the number of dead remains at six people. two children and their great grandmother, two firefighters and one other person who has yet to be identified. close to 1,000 structures destroyed. that number could rise as the fire continues to threaten a few additional thousand homes with the fire still burning. >> i lost it all. every bit of it. i'm sorry. it's just been devastating, period. it is so hard. i just can't get my mind around it. i lost everything.
they gave you five minutes to get out. what do you grab in five minutes? >> along the california coast, some fires have grown in size. but containments are getting better. two fires have burned more than 75,000 acres and they're threatening 12,000 structures. to complicate matters while it is a little cooler here, bill, we're calling out here -- forecasts are calling for another dry and hot day throughout those areas where the wildfires are burning, bill. >> bill: jeff paul in redding, california on that. >> sandra: fox news alert new reaction coming in from president trump as the company is one day now away from making untraceable 3d printed guns available to the public. how several states and washington are responding. >> bill: as we mentioned president trump heading to florida today rallying for his preferred candidate for
governor. hotly contested primary. congressman ron desantis wants to be the next governor in florida and make his case for us live coming up today. >> sandra: president trump repeating his threat to shut down the government over his immigration demands. can a shutdown be avoided? representative joni ernst is here and she joins us next. >> president trump: if we don't get border security after many, many years of talk within the united states, i would have no problem doing a shutdown.
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we've been considering for several days and take four more big steps toward our goal of completing a regular appropriations process and funding the government in a timely and orderly manner. >> sandra: iowa republican senator joni ernst joins us now. thank you for joining us on the program this morning. are you as optimistic as the majority leader? >> i am. i do think we can get our appropriations bill done. we've been working very hard at them. we would rather not see a government shutdown. i do think the president needs to be heard when he talks about making sure our borders are secure, building the wall and reforming our immigration process. i think we all can work together on that. >> sandra: kellyanne conway joined us from the white house earlier this morning and really set up what this debate looks like as we head toward the mid-term elections. less than 100 days away. watch this. >> this president could not be more clear for the last three plus years now on what he thinks about a broken immigration system and repeated
it yesterday and catch and release, releasing people into the interior of this country. ending chain migration. going to a merit-based system of immigration and of course having that wall. having border security. it is a stark contrast to the democratic party running to abolish ice. >> sandra: how do things play out this fall? >> well, i think we can continue working on our appropriations bills. i think that is really important. and at some point we do need to have a vigorous debate on immigration. we can't avoid this. we do have to protect our nation. we have to make sure our borders are strong. and of course we need immigration. we have an unemployment rate of 2.7% in iowa and we know that we need workers both skilled and unskilled. and we certainly aren't growing our own so we know that we need help with that. but we have to debate these items and we have to be very thoughtful about it. we can't get emotional about the issue. we have to do what is right for
our country. >> sandra: as far as your concerns in your state, senator, about the president's policy on trade and tariffs, i say this as we're a couple hours into the trading day. u.s. stock market, dow is up triple digits right now. some of those concerns have been eased. this is on the mind of those that live in your state every single day. what do you tell them? >> well, i had the opportunity to visit with them over the weekend because i was out doing county tours and town halls. so many of our farmers and those engaged in the agricultural industry are very concerned about trade and tariffs. but we know the economy is doing well. it just happens to be our ag secretary the markets are down. we want to see trade and we saw a little bit of hope there with the e.u. and the fact they'll be purchasing more soybeans. so if the president can get good deals for us, seal up the deal with mexico and canada and move to other free trade
agreements we'll be doing just fine. but again we want to see that trade. we want to see open markets. we would rather have that than, of course, the aid that is being proposed by the federal government. >> sandra: the numbers coming out of the chamber of commerce showing that bailing out all sectors hit by the president's tariffs would cost $39 billion, senator. >> yeah. that's way too much. the farmers that i have spoken with have said we don't want aid, we don't need the subsidies. what we want to see the fa -- the fact that we can grow our goods and get them to new and developing markets. i encourage to president to keep pushing. let's get good deals and done soon so we don't lose great opportunity and a great economy here in the united states. >> sandra: we hear your message. senator joni ernst, good to have you on the program. >> bill: new images out of north korea. what they may some about the
country's nuclear program and intent. how concerned should the u.s. and our allies be? what's the real price tag for the medicare for all plan being pushed by bernie sanders. the number is in and it's a doozy. dr. marc siegel is here next.
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would boost healthcare spending by more than $32 trillion over 10 years. that would mean a lot of taxes. dr. marc siegel fox news contributor and professor of medicine. $32 trillion. do you believe that number? >> came out of a reputable study out of george mason in virginia. that's more than double the amount of taxes individuals and corporations pay over 10 years. we would have to somehow raise money double what we're already paying in taxes to fund this. that's a lot of money. i don't know -- there are ways it would save money. decreases administrative costs. medicare and medicaid are less in cost than private insurance. they would use the block to negotiate drug prices. two savings. cost, no co-pays or deductibles. if you have a co-pay or deductible you might think twist before spending it. with medicare for all, single
payer, you don't have that. second problem is rationing. in canada which is single payer you can't get a hip replacement when you need one or the stent when you need one. wait three or four weeks to get a cardiac stent with chest pain. it's not the first time the $32 trillion has been floated out there. i believe this number. this is a huge, huge expense. >> bill: we'll hear a lot about it. many democrats are talking about it. as we get into this campaign you'll hear more about it. do you see this as ever possible in america? >> two reasons it's not going to happen in america. you point out in america. australia has a system of single payer that works with medicare for all but that's for basic catastrophic needs. it won't work in america for
two reasons. one, we talked about the price tag. two, it's a direct attack on the employer healthcare system. 170 million people are already insured through their employer. it works for employer and employee. employer doesn't have to pay taxes on the amount that they are giving and for the employee it's an incentive. i'll take that job. i get my health coverage through that. that is a system under direct attack. >> bill: we'll hear more about this as a political issue. you say it's a pipe dream. >> the insurance companies will never let this happen. they are a lobby in the united states and why a democrat talking point. our insurance industry i think, you've heard me say this many times, is too strong. i think the insurer is in the doctor's office interfering with doctor and patient but they're powerful. let's replace them with the government? also should not be interfering. >> bill: high taxes a lot. i don't know what you have to pay. is it 80% or 90%, whatever the number is.
the reason people like sanders like this. they argue administrative costs are lower and you would be able to negotiate drug prices better and more competitively. do you believe that? >> yes, i believe that but i also think that the trump administration is on the right track with getting more generics approved and more competition and more choice. that's on the right track. i like free market solutions to this. i think medicare for all would be hugely expensive and not deliver what it is promising. look, bill, we're coming into a time of innovation. we're talking about chemotherapy, immunotherapy and genetic therapies that only work for one person, not the other person. how do you propose single payer covers that? it won't. the treatments of the future won't be covered. >> bill: very good, thank you, sir. $32 trillion over 10 years. >> never going to happen. thank you. >> sandra: the first trial sparked by the mueller investigation currently
underway, the jury being selected in the case involving paul manafort. new details on what is happening inside of that courthouse. we're live on the scene next. >> bill: he wants to be the governor in the state of florida. tonight he will get a big push from the president. congressman ron desantis is here live as he gets ready for the big rally in tampa tonight.
homework and worked with his team and has a very strong case here. >> sandra: peter doocy live from outside the federal courthouse in alexandria, virginia. what's happening there? >> i was just inside where paul manafort is sitting up on the ninth floor in a courtroom wearing a suit unlike the last time he was here where they brought him in a prison jumpsuit. he is quietly observing jury selection which just began. he is sitting in a courtroom he was driven to from jail in the back of a non-descript gray van and the judge in this case t.s. ellis just told a pool of 75 potential jurors he thinks there is nothing more important than jury duty as an american. the 18 charges are for filing false tax returns, bank fraud and conspiracy to commit bank fraud. just yesterday the feds, who months ago car aide out a raid on one of his houses allege he has been hiding $60 million
from the i.r.s. he got consulting or lobbying from ukrainian politicians including some backed by russia but none are from the five months associated with the trump campaign and the white house isn't sweating today's proceedings. >> i would note for your audience, bill, that the judge has very strictly instructed no mention of paul manafort's role in the trump campaign, don't mention trump, russia or collusion. this trial obviously centers on matters that have nothing to do with the campaign. >> back in may the judge in this case accused the special counsel's office of using financial charges to pressure paul manafort into giving robert mueller damaging information about the president. one of the special counsel's prosecutors fired back at the time that he doesn't expect any of the government's witnesses testifying against manafort to mention russia ever. and we certainly have not heard
that here during the jury selection so far. >> sandra: peter doocy, thank you. >> bill: president trump heads to florida, campaign stop another big campaign rally trying to give congressman ron desantis the bump as he looks to become the next governor of florida. ron desantis is my guest now. how are you doing and good day to you? big rally in tampa tonight? what do you think the president has done for your campaign in this primary? >> well, obviously he is the 800 pound gorilla in republican politics. a lot of our voters at the grassroots level are frustrated when they see some republicans not trying to support him. that's something that they look for. are you supporting the president? well, in my case people are seeing that the president is supporting me. that's a great thing to have and especially in a primary when all the candidates try to say a lot of the same things, say they're so conservative. the record doesn't always bear that out. but i think trump's support separates the wheat from the
chaff and i think it has been a big boost for me. >> bill: adam putnam is your primary opponent and has a lot of support in florida. pam bondi and others. what is going to give in this primary? >> i think there are a couple of things. one, bill, we have a different biography. i'm an iraq veteran. served in the navy. he has been in leadership since he was 22. i'm a proven conservative leader and my actions back up the reality. adam is somebody even some of his high-profile supporters have called him amnesty adam putnam for being weak on illegal immigration. he is trying to reinvent himself and it isn't working. you have the president and that factor. there are a number of factors. fox doing a debate early on in the primary was a big differentiator and i think that really reset the race and set the tone and we basically just built momentum from that point
on. >> bill: i have heard you mention that before. the tweet from today. the white house west wing i'll be in tampa later tonight. desantis will be a great governor for florida. big help on tax and regulation cuts, loves our military and vets and has my total endorsement. you will take that into the primary. those who argue the president has been effective supporting primary candidates but not general election candidates. what would you argue on that? >> i think we'll have a lot of success in the general election across the country. here in florida, bill, our state is going in the right direction. we've done a lot of good things under governor scott's leadership. unemployment rate is under 4. an historic opportunity to expand our economic base and really create high-paying jobs because of the trump tax cuts. and i think that florida voters will want to continue with the success and so we've got a good story to tell as republicans down here and i think it will carry the day here. but i also think the president's support in other
key senate races like missouri and north dakota and montana will be critical in bringing more republicans to the u.s. senate starting in 2019. >> bill: you are drawing your campaign tight with the white house. the latest ad you have put out, a little shot of that right now. watch. >> ron loves reading to kids. he reads stories. >> then mr. trump said you're fired. i love that part. >> he is teaching madison to talk. >> make america great again. >> people say ron is all trump but he is so much more. >> that is pretty obvious, sir. >> bill, you know, sometimes in this process you have to be able to take a step back and laugh at yourself a little bit. have a little fun with it. my wife is my best supporter and best friend. i wanted to introduce voters to her and to my family which is number one for me. we also wanted to do it in a way that people could get a little laugh out of and we could have a lighter touch.
for people that are getting upset about it shows they have no sense of humor and they just totally don't get what we were trying to convey. >> bill: ron desantis. thank you for your time. we'll see the rally tonight and watch it live at 7:00 eastern. we'll talk to the other side tomorrow. adam putnam is our guest in "america's newsroom." we'll get his take as the primary battle heats up three weeks away. >> sandra: watching the battle over homemade guns. eight states suing the trump administration over its decision to let a texas company public on-line instructions for 3d printed guns. president trump is still on the fence. president trump responded by tweeting this. i'm looking into the 3d plastic guns being sold to the public. spoke to nra. doesn't seem to make much sense. a senator firing back this morning. >> it doesn't make any sense that your justice department and your state department agreed to make 3d guns
available to the public. as of tomorrow, anyone, including criminals and terrorists, can have access to blueprints for making deadly weapons with the click of a mouse. >> sandra: anita vogel is live in los angeles. a lot of people watching this story, anita. >> yes, definitely. it's the big concern. for anyone not familiar with what this is. a 3d downloadable gun is known as a ghost gun and can be printed at home with a specialized 3d printer and turned into a weapon that's not traceable. that's because you can make it with plastic. the company that makes the designs out of texas is planning to make the drawings available online tomorrow for virtually anyone to see and download. now eight states plus the district of columbia are suing the state department for recently settling with the company allowing them to
publish the blueprints. >> for god sakes, when it comes to something as basic as public safety, our state department saying hey, this is a giveaway for terrorists. it undermines all the hard work everybody here behind me has dedicated much of their professional lives to of keeping us safe. >> because the state department is charged with regulating the sale of firearms outside of the u.s., it was the agency which blocked defense distributed when it wanted to publish the gun blueprints in 2013. two years later the company sued the state department. the owner claiming his free speech rights were being violated by not allowing him to publish. just this past june last month the state department settled the suit saying certain firearms and related items are already widely available for commercial sale but just last week secretary of state mike pompeo said he had reservations about making this information available to just anybody.
>> i asked the state department to please reconsider this decision. i think it has long term national security and domestic security considerations for our country. >> you have my commitment i'll take a look at it. >> defense distributed vowed as of august 1, tomorrow, the age of the downloadable gun begins. the reality is a lot of plans are already online. the issue will likely fall under the purview of the departments of justice and commerce. look for more lawsuits to come. >> sandra: we will indeed. thank you. >> bill: a major headline from yesterday. president trump saying he is willing to meet with the leaders of iran with no strings attached. how is that playing in congress? lee zeldin on the house foreign relations committee is our guest in a moment. first here is senator lindsey graham. >> i would like to listen to what the president has to say in terms of his thinking but beforehand i thought it was a
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>> the president has made a lot of great play calls as relates to iran since coming into office. pulling out of the iran nuclear deal was the right move and pushing back an iranian aggression in iraq and syria. working with allies in that region forming a coalition to push back against iranian aggression in that region. i would love the opportunity to talk to the president why i believe it isn't the right decision to sit down with rouhani at this time. i could see rouhani as he is walking into the meeting talking about how israel is a little satan, america the great satan. chanting death to america. the guy has blood all over his hands as far as dead u.s. service members and this iranian leadership, this regime, i don't want us to prop up and i don't want the imagery in any way, shape or form looking like our nations are equal. the largest state sponsor of terror. i could see them walking into a
meeting with president trump and walking out chanting death to america. there are certain basics in order to earn the ability to sit down with president trump, because iran is desperate for keeping the iran nuclear deal. they're desperate for it, not us. they need to sanctions relief. if they need the meeting, i don't want to see them in any way trying to embarrass our president and country and that's what i'm concerned about is protecting our president and our country in not trusting these iranians in particular that are in charge of their nation. >> sandra: out of the break we showed your colleague in the senate lindsey graham giving the president credit for being tougher on iran. is the president -- could the president even go stronger on iran than he already is in your view? >> of course. the fact is the military option is on the table and real but it is the last possible option. not the one that we want. we want to see effective
multi-lateral diplomacy. we want to see ramping up economic pressure. the information campaign. there are millions of iranians that want a different direction for their nation. when we talk about -- when we hear people in the united states talk about how the most moderate candidates get elected in iran. that's ignoring the fact that 12,000 most moderate candidates don't get allowed access to the ballot. the military option is real so you can get tougher. however, that's not something that i believe that he wants, that our nation wants. but yes, it's on the table. >> sandra: yesterday the president met with the italian prime minister and spent time heaping praise on the country for its tough immigration policies. watch this. >> president trump: the prime minister frankly is with us today because of illegal immigration. italy got tired of it. they didn't want it any longer. i applaud the prime minister for his bold leadership, truly bold. and i hope more leaders will
follow this example, including leaders in europe. >> sandra: all of this is coming, congressman, has the president doubles down on the rhetoric he will shut down the government if he doesn't get funding for his border wall. is this a good play by the president? >> as far as the leverage that he has in the appropriations battle it is good to put that marker down right now to let congress know that congress needs to do its job in insuring our borders are more secured. we have an immigration policy in our nation that is flawed. every nation's backbone is its rule of law, whether it's italy, other nations within europe or the united states of america. this president knows that there are many people and things illegal substances coming across our borders as well that we need to do a better job funding the effort against. where the president wants to combat the heroin and opioid abuse epidemic across our country or combating illegal immigration, the president is making a play call now which is correct in letting him know
sending a message to congress don't come to me at the end of september and try to explain why you didn't do anything at all. that's not an option. >> sandra: congressman lee zeldin in new york. thank you very much, sir. >> bill: "outnumbered" is next. quick preview with melissa francis. >> the trial of paul manafort is underway. it is a small part of robert mueller's russia probe the stakes are sky high legally and politically what a conviction or acquittal with mean for mueller, the president and even the mid-term elections. the president holding a rally in florida tonight. whether he is a king maker for the party is up for debate. we'll debate it. #oneluckyguy at the top of the hour. >> bill: new concerns about north korea's nuclear program. why it now appears chairman kim
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launched if three different test firings last year. this comes after last month's summit involving president trump and north korea leader kim jong-un at which time chairman kim promised he would work towards denuclearization and also amid a meeting today at the dmz between north and south korean generals trying to cool things there. there are other problems. just last week remember we heard secretary of state pompeo admit that north korea continues also to produce fissile material for nuclear bombs and it comes amid other moves by north korea in a positive direction including the dismantling of a missile engine test firing site and what we have been following in the last couple of days, the return of those remains of u.s. service members lost in the korean war. tomorrow they will be repatriated back to hawaii. the takeaway from today's news is nothing is straight forward when it comes to north korea but some good news, some bad news. >> bill: greg palkot in london on that.
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group. he didn't say he spoke to the department of justice or the state department. he's not speaking to any other gun control groups, but the president took to twitter to say i have reached out to the nra. so those of you who have chanlted over and over, drain the swamp, walk us through -- >> why you would go to the industry group. >> why would you contact the largest lobbying group ever, the nra, on what to do about the ghost gun. >> as of last week, one of the organization's videos called 3-d guns freedom and innovation. tom costello has more on the guns and why the president should be checking with his own state department rather than the nra. >> this morning, growing pushback against a new type of firearm that some people can actually build in their own home. eight attorneys general now asking a judge to block a texas company from publishing the downloadable instructions for 3-d printers to manufacture guns.
from handguns to semiautomatics made of plastic and without a serial number, the guns are untraceable and undetectable. able to pass through most metal detectors. >> welcome to the age of the printed magazine. >> 30-year-old cody wilson is the face of a new gun movement. >> gun control is not dead. it's undead. gun control is undead. >> the obama administration took wilson to court to stop his company from posting the instructions online, arguing it would put guns in the hands of terrorists. but cody wilson insisted he has a first amendment right to publish, and the instructions were already online anyway. in june, the trump administration dropped the court fight with wilson. >> as long as you have a right to keep and bear arms, you have a right to make them. >> fred's 14-year-old daughter jamie was one of 17 people why s high school. >> this changes the safety of americans forever if this is allowed to happen. >> plastic guns, he fears, will bring more gun violence to a country already reeling. >> someone could walk in with a gun and you won't know it.
airplanes, you'll be flying with someone with a gun, and you won't know it. courthouses, someone with a gun and you won't know it. that's the risk. >> okay, let's is a look at what these 3-d printed guns are. conventional gun manufacturing requires a permit and all guns produced must bear a serial number so they can be traced if stolen or used in a crime. but with 3-d printing, there's no way to enforce these laws. components can be printed without any oversight and any record keeping. the site offers files that allow users to print palmer components on demand, so now to build a gun, you don't need to purchase industrial machine working equipment or have special expertise. among the firearm components on the site are plans to print a full baretta m-9 handgun and the lower receiver for an ar-15. you won't be able to print the entire rifle due to printer limitations, but you can present out several key components that allow the designer to fire 600 rounds continuously in a test earlier this year.
this is real. and more concerning to lawmakers is the liberator. this was the first weapon designed by the group posting the plans. it's a single hp shot polymer weapon. the only non-3-d printable parts are the ammunition and a small nail that's used in place of a firing pin. up here. all right, some lawmakers worry the guns run afoul of the undetectable firearms act of 1988. the designer put a small metal piece into the handle of the first liberator, although he said it was out of goodwill and others aren't obligated to do so. joining us now is avery gardener, co-president of the brady campaign, a gun control advocacy book. >> some people are saying this is just a novelty item and there's no reason to fight back that hard against it. it's just one simple gun. it's not a semiautomatic weapon, but if this thing is cleared and people can suddenly print this, where could we quickly devolve to? >> people who are saying that this is only about one kind of gun are mistaken and misguided.
center, has a keen interest in the case because we filed a brief in the fifth circuit as an amemes, and they did not reach out to us before they came to this settlement. we didn't hear from either the department of justice or the department of state. and that's one of the really troubling things here, is why this settlement, why now? as recently as april, the government maintained that putting these plans online was a threat to national security and international peace. >> so what -- >> we have no idea what changed. >> what do your contacts at the state department, i'm sure you interface with the government all the time, when they made this settlement which now is done, it's not like you can put the toothpaste back in the tube, did they give you any rationale? >> not only did they not give us any rationale, they didn't even give us a heads-up it was coming. we learned about it in the press like everyone else. the next day, we sent a freedom of information act to the government asking about the documents in the settlement, who was involved in it, who made these decisions, what were the facts that changed that caused
the government to do a complete 180. now, they haven't gotten back to us yet. and if they don't get back to us in accordance with the statute, we will have to sue the trump administration again to get these documents. we think the public has a right to know, but as you say, it's probably going to be too late. >> the guy who's doing this, corey, he's wrapped himself up in the constitution on this one. he calls it a first amendment expression of his second amendment rights. now, obviously, this is something you come up against a great deal. there is a second amendment that allows some gun usage and ownership in this country. what's your response to that argument? >> well, first of all, we have absolutely no concerns about safe, responsible americans owning guns and having them stored safely in their homes. i grew up with guns and i don't have any concerns about most americans having a gun in the home. the issue comes when we're talking about dangerous people having guns in the home, and courts have held for generations that there are some people who cannot have a gun because they are too dangerous.
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in taxes. compare that to the $476,000 without adjusting for inflation. a difference of $220 grand, and that's tax dollars the treasury department loses out on. this kind of change could result in an estimated $100 billion in tax savings for wealthy investors. it would also dig into the treasury even deeper, the hole they're already in from the last round of tax cuts, which again, mostly benefit the wealthiest americans. and ali, we have to slow that down. we're not saying this hurts the american worker. but it doesn't help them. >> doesn't help. it might hurt them because if you reduce tax revenues, then everybody comes out and says we have to cut this and cut welfare and cut social services. it in fact could hurt them, but it's broadening the gap that we're trying to narrow, right, between the rich and poor. >> the president rails against trade deficits and he basically ignores budget deficits. >> he doesn't seem to care. >> the treasury department is in a hole because the tax cuts from
2017 are still not paid for. there's this republican idea that if you cut taxes, it's going to spur growth. even if it spurs some growth, not enough, the corporate tax cuts thus far have not trickled down to the american worker. in large part, they result in stock buybacks. who does that serve? the share holder. who does capital gains adjustment serve? the share holder, not the american people. >> our entire tax system is based around preserving money for the wealthy. work labor gets taxed more than wealth does. if you have assets and you have capital gains, your tax rate is lower than if you just work for it. this is just a perpetuation of a problem we had for a few hundred years in america. it's supposed to be getting better, it's getting worse. >> it's not a new idea. larry kudlow has liked this for years. what's stunning is it's what the president campaigned against, much like when he said he was going to close the carried interest loophole, yet miraculously, it stayed in the tax system, and yet here we are again, and it's just -- it's certainly a gift to the donor
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the special counsel is leveling 18 counts against hem in this one, including tax and bank fraud related to his work as a consultant in ukraine. the accounts predate his work on the trump campaign. he's pled not guilty to charges in virginia and washington, d.c. >> this hour president trump is set to sign the strengthening career and technical education for the 21st century act. this bipartisan bill aims to help americans obtain the skills needed to compete for good paying jobs. in a couple hours, trump is expected to go to tampa, florida, to fund-raise and rally for republican congressman rob desantis who is running for government. >> and president trump is going after the koch brurthothers, th billionaires handing out money to republicans for years. he said the koch brothers are a real joke in republican circles. against strong borders and powerful trade. i never sought their support. they love my tax and regulation cuts, judicial picks and more. i made them richer.
their network is highly overrated. i have beaten them at every turn. they want to protect their companies outside the u.s. from being taxed. i'm for america first and the american worker. a puppet for no one. >> why the fury? this weekend, koch network leaders distances the organization from some republicans and president trump calling trump's tariffs wrong-headed. the gop spending horrifying, and a separation of families at the border abhorrent. in fact, charles koch even told the reporters he could be open to working with democrats in the future, saying, quote, i don't care what the initials are in front or after somebody's name. his network also announced it would not support a republican candidate in a close midterm race in north dakota, saying he's inconsistent on issues that matter to the group. uh-oh. if inconsistent is a problem the koch brothers have, they ain't never going back to trump. >> time to talk about the koch brothers a little bit. let's take a closer look at exactly who they are.
charles and david inherited the second largest american company from their father in 1967. today, charles is at the helm. david stepped down in june, cited health problems. the two are worth an estimated $120 billion, according to forbes. the brothers organized their own political network back in 2000 threne, an assembly of libertarians, libertarian leaning people, rich business people, advocacy groups. each has agreed to contribute at least $100,000 annually to koch linked groups. now, this network has shaped elections for years. even being called more powerful than the republican national committee. in 2012, it spent $122 million on elections. in 2014, it was up to $129 million. and by 2016, the presidential election, an estimated $250 million. and it's upping the ante for the 2018 election cycle. pledging to shell out $400 million on politics and policy. it's already spent $20 million
promoting the gop tax cut plan. who gets all this money? well, republican lawmakers, super pacs, community groups, colleges and universities, people running in judicial elections even get money from the kochs. the network is even backing the confirmation of judge brett kavanaugh to the supreme court. right now, the network says it's engaged in races in six states. the green ones are senatorial races. the yellow or gold ones are gubernatorial races. spending hundreds of millions of dollars in an attempt to sway the midterms in favor of vulnerable republicans and their policies. >> joining us now, rick tyler, republican strategist and co-founder of the foundry strategies. i'm deg it start with this. why? you're what? >> i couldn't swivel. >> why don't we push your chair right up. >> a different table. >> okay. we'll start again. >> why is he doing this? i mean, the koch brothers. i saw laura ingraham last night calling the koch brothers elitists. >> the idea that the kochs are a joke is sort of laughable.
>> that's what jokes do, you know. >> that's right. to get a sense of who the kochs are, they're probably the most successful entrepreneurial family in world history. worth about $120 billion. i'll bet this set has materials made of the kochs. i bet you slept in a mattress last night with materials made from the kochs. i bet you fill up your yacht with koch fuels. they made a myriad of products that we use every day. so they made a lot of money. if you go to the met on 80th street here in new york city, there's a beautiful fountain. it has the word koch on the fountain. why? they give money to lincoln center, to the met. >> i think they're new york's biggest philanthropists. >> they are, which makes me think about the trump foundation. what is it? under investigation. >> now, they have always been sort of demonized by the left. harry reid made a famous statement on the floor saying, citing the koch brothers. and the reason is that it's
political. the koch brothers spend hundreds of millions of dollars on elections. it's interesting. they're now willing to withdraw from a key senate race in north dakota not because of politics. they're going to eschew political expediency for policy. their policies are they're not social conservatives. they're very libertarian. they believe in free markets, and they do a lot of things to educate the public on free markets so people will understand why they should be voting for candidates that are free markets. but when the party abandons its principles and you can see this where they're upset about in the world of free trade and tariffs, they're saying no, we're going to abandon political expediency and stick with our principles on free markets. >> did they really think it's li likely they would work with democrats and the democrats would work with them? they have been demonized on the left. >> we talked about this two days ago. hat is that donald trump in many ways is backward thinking. right? he has this appeal to the
remaining segment of a market that says we can bring back coal jobs and manufacturing. and all these things -- >> no jobs of the future. >> no jobs of the future. the kochs are all about the future, and their idea is that innovations, yes, they're hard, and they disrupt industries, uber is a great sense of that. even the technologies in politics today are disrupting politics. you can see that with the russian investigation, the way we campaign and target people. one of the most laughable committee hearings i ever saw was with mark zuckerberg. >> and they were out there talking about the use of the facebook. >> they were talking about it. so let me get this straight, mark zuckerberg. you target people with advertising they would like to see, and what mark should have said is, just the way you target people who are most likely to vote for you. they all use data. >> so the left hates the kochs. the kochs hates the left. is there really chance they're going to work together? >> they have proven it. they have shown that we are not about supporting a political
party blindly. i think this is a huge opportunity for democrats to figure out how to embrace and train for the jobs of the future, and juxtapose that against trump's building up legacy companies. that's going to be tough for them because they have unions around manufacturing and coal mines. >> you think any democrats are going to pick up the phone and say, hey, chuck and david, how are you doing? >> i don't know, but money talks and elections are expensive. if you have a multibillionaire who wants to talk about the future and jobs. why wouldn't they be for it? >> money does talk. i wonder if it will be talking in paul manafort's case today. >> back to the top story, three-d printed assault rifles. these assault rifles would be unregistered and untraceable. we're talking to one of the attorneys general suing to stop the plans from being posted. and supreme court justice anthony kennedy is officially leaving the federal bench today. justice kennedy served more than
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its lawsuit? on what basis are you able to go in there and get this changed? >> well, this is a terrible settlement by the trump administration. and we speak at the chief law enforcement officers in our states. our job is to protect public safety. and the reason, ali, that we're suing, is because this is a terrible, terrible turn of events, what the state department and trump administration have done. what they have done is essentially entered into an agreement that allows this company to put and post online plans for folks to download plans to make guns. and you know, this is a matter of national security. it's a matter of public safety. we're suing to stop this from happening because we have the responsibility of protecting the public safety within our states and certainly share in the national security interests that the state department once agreed with and argued for. >> the images, the plans, have
already been downloaded several thousand times. at this point, what can you really do about it? >> there's a lot we can do. our job is to keep dangerous guns away from dangerous people. i think any law-abiding gun owner will tell you that they don't need to be able to print a gun at home. you know, we need to make sure that two things happen. one, that the state department immediately rescind this settlement and withdraw the rule that would allow these plans to be published. and two, we need congress to act. i'm heartened to see congress talking about this today. my office led a coalition of state a.g.s to advocate for that reform and action at the state department and by congress. and i think most people around the country would be really concerned and outraged to know that what the trump administration has allowed to happen, is allowing to happen unless they change course, is for somebody to walk into staples, to buy a 3-d printer, to go home, to look up this
company online, and with the push of a button, download and make a plastic gun. a gun that's untraceable, a gun that can't be detected by metal detectors. can you imagine what this might mean in terms of public safety and also national security? because this would allow criminals and terrorists to basically manufacture, make their guns at home. it's a real problem, and that's why we're demanding action. >> congressman seth moulton and senator bill nelson have put bills forward to get this dealt with. have you had a chance to review those bills and do you think that's an answer? >> no, it's absolutely a step in the right direction, and i support the work of congressman moulton right here from massachusetts as well as the senators who have come forward with proposed legislation. i'm sorry that it's come to this. again, i saw the president tweet, but we need not a tweet. we need action. this is within the president's control. if president trump cared about this issue, cared about national security, cared about public security, he could immediately order his state department to
rescind the settlement agreement and to withdraw the rule that's going to allow this to happen. so we first need action out of the state department, and yes, i hope congress acts immediately. >> but are you even encouraged by the president's tweet? in the tweet, he says i have spoken to the nra. the nra is not the state department or the department of justice. it's the biggest special interest group out there that's pro-gun. >> you know, stephanie, it's why we're in court orn this and why in fact state a.g.s are in multiple courts right now as we speak. seeking relief in the courts, asking for an order to stop this company from making available these downloadable files. it's what we're doing right now through the courts. that's where we need to be, i think we have seen time and time again the importance and the role of state a.g.s taking this president and the administration to court in order to get relief. here, it's a matter of national security and a matter of public
safety. >> mara healey is the attorney general of massachusetts. thanks for joining us to talk about this. >> well, great to be with you. again, this is an end run around all the basic gun laws in our state and we think it's really important. >> we're going to keep giving it lots of attention. when we come back, is president trump being dissed by the united states' biggest foes? up next, how north korea and iran, north korea and iran, are responding to trump's attempts at negotiation. spoiler alert, you're not going to like it. >> and right now, we're also watching a hearing on migrant families separated at the border. the senate judiciary committee is meeting as we speak, grilling customs and border protection agency officials. and that brings us to our monumental american today. he stood up for civil liberties in his own time. ralph lazo. >> he was born in los angeles back in 1924, and was irish-mexican descent. when he was 17 in world war ii, he learned his japanese american neighbors were being forcibly
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the prime minister said it better than anybody can say it. speaking to other people, especially when you're talking about potentials of war and death, and famine and lots of other things, you meet. there's nothing wrong with meeting. we met, as you know, with chairman kim, and we haven't had a missile fired off in nine months. we got our prisoners back. so many things have happened so positi positive. >> do aio have preconditions for that meeting? >> no. no preconditions. they want to meet, i'll meet. any time they want. >> within hours of those comments, "the washington post" released this reporting. that according to u.s. spy agencies, north korea is working on new missiles. here to break all of this down with us, bloombergfore affairs analyst bobby gosh. let's start with president trump and his foreign policy flip-flop game. he created this big hullabaloo in north korea, no more threat, and now this. i'll meet with iran, no
conditions. two hours later, mike pompeo says conditions. what gives? >> when the president ad-libbed there's usually a pushback from the white house saying, no, what he actually meant was -- and then completely reversing what he said. we're seeing something of that from pompeo. or what pompeo says makes a little more sense in the larger narrative. if you're going to tear up the nuclear deal, it makes no sense then to go back and say there are no preconditions. there have to be preconditions. if there are no preconditions, why tear up the deal? with the north koreans, i think it's inconceivable anybody is surprised at this. throughout this entire bizarre sort of extended kabuki theater that we have with the north koreans, all kinds of people who professional north korea watchers and people who pay close attention to their nuclear program said over and over again, guess what, so did the north koreans themselves. they're not giving up their nukes. they did talk about slowing down
and maybe giving up the nuclear missile program. the fact that the u.s. intelligence agencies are now reporting they're still doing it and not just doing the missiles but doing the icbms, those are designed to strike the united states. >> they can hit the east coast. >> the east coast, guam, remember the whole thing last year when everyone went into a wild panic because they thought there was a north korean missile in the direction of guam. that facility outside of pyongyang, that's designed to make those kinds of missiles. if there's activity in that factory, that's a bad sign. >> so president rouhani of iran made this statement to a british ambassador earlier today on his official website. quote, after the u.s.'s illegal withdrawal from the jcpoa, the joint comprehensive plan of action, which is the iran deal, the ball is in europe's court in the limited time remaining. it seems like he was given an
easy one by donald trump because if he says i'll meet with you any time, maybe the response should have been -- >> yeah, i think he missed a trick here. they could have called the president's bluff. rouhani is not really the man in charge, the person in charge man charge, the person in charge is the supreme leader. it would have cost rouhani relatively little to say, okay, if there's no preconditions, we'll meet. >> is that a danger to the world, the president puts so much stock in talking to everyone as opposed to using the state department and established negotiating channels that can be had at every level of government. when the president now goes to these places and says things, do guys like kim jong-un and vladimir putin same, i don't know if you mean it and you're going to change this in 24 minutes or 24 hours. >> absolutely, and that's what rouhani said. there are plenty of other people in the iranian establishment saying, we can't take this seriously. >> but ali, bobby, show me
something the president has done that has hurt any of these authoritarian leaders. when he's faced with another bully-style leader, he folds. when he says he's tough on russia, it wasn't him, it was congress' sanctions. what has he actually done in relation to any of these countries that's actually hurt them? >> we have one week to find out. on the 6th of august, the sanctions on iran go back in place. that's why rouhani said there's a limited time left. it doesn't seem like there's anything europe can do it, the sanctions are going back on. and the iranian economy is in a bad way, the currency is in a tailspin. the iranians do have their backs to the wall. but when they have their backs to the wall historically, they don't respond with sweet reasonableness. >> bobby, good to see you as always, thank you. trump's trade wars are hitting one state particularly
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on u.s. dairy products. mexico has been the number one market for those products. likewise, china slapped 25% tariffs on u.s. milk, cream, cheese, and yogurt products. it's all added up to big losses for dairy farmers and huge surpluses of dairy products. >> nbc's vaughn hillyard joins us now from plymouth, wisconsin, which is known as the cheese capital of the world. all right, vaughn. walk us through this. >> reporter: good morning, stephanie and ali. to be clear and be frank about this, the dairy farmers' message to us over the last few days has been very certain. it's president trump, keep going, we need you to come through for us, we need these deals to be renegotiated, we need these markets open. we've been out here and talking to these guys who president trump, over the last months, recall, has been saying he's waging this trade war on behalf of. it's consistently called out
canada for high tariffs on u.s. dairy exports and he says he's going to bat for them. what's happened, though, is that these farmers are losing the markets they already had from the likes of mexico and china. i would to introduce you to dairy farmers just down the road from here. for 28 years, you guys, they've been selling their milk directly to the cheese manufacturing company sartori cheese who is the one finding those export markets. 10% of their cheese goes overseas. when sartori struggles to find export markets, it's their price that goes down because the demand is not there. there's oversupply of milk in the u.s., there's more competitors like almond and soy milk alternatives. these cow farms are getting better at getting higher yields. i want you to hear how scott said he's supportive of the president's effort but he needs the president to come through. what concerns do you have about
the dairy industry now in the months ahead, years ahead? >> you know, everything's got to shake itself out. and we just went through some tremendously low prices. some people are going to fall off on this, that financially aren't going to be here. there's other people that will. trump just got done with the european nation. that sounded very positive. the way it sounds, mexico wants to come and talk real seriously. and i really think this tariff think is going to be shorter-lived than -- i originally thought it would be six months. and i think that's going to get shortened up here by a ton, because now all of a sudden everybody is talking, maybe we should sit down and do some fair trade. >> reporter: what would be your message to president trump right now? >> keep doing what you're doing. it's working. some people maybe don't think so. but i really think it's working. >> reporter: they need, scott and paulette need the president
to come through for them. there's 9,500 licensed dairy farmers in the state. 1.3 million dairy cows. wisconsin, it's not just cheese. harley-davidson has announced they're going to be moving manufacturing operations overseas. this is the highest cranberry producing state in the country. 30,000 people work in a paper industry that's also been hit. soybean, corn, beef farmers as well. wisconsin is the target here in this state, guys. >> great reporting, thanks very much, vaughn, good to see you. vaughn hillyard for us in wisconsin as he's been all around this country. this is time when we usually hand off to one of the great living legends of television news. she never wants to hear praise so we're just going to say it. it's a very special day, it's andrea mitchell's 40th anniversary with nbc news much. >> she started working here when she was 4 years old. andrea started at nbc news back at 1978. a year later she was named the
i'm eric thomas. >> for all of us. here, thanks for inviting us into your homes tonight. >> our next newscast sat tonight, from washington, robert mueller grilled on the hill. the high stakes showdown. after president trump repeatedly said the mueller report exonerated him, robert mueller is asked, did you exonerate the president? how he answers. also, can the president be charged with a crime when he leaves office? tonight, the president now responding just a short time ago. also tonight, the urgent manhunt right now for two teenage suspects considered armed and dangerous after their alleged killing spree. that american woman and her boyfriend discovered dead. now the suspects are wanted in another case and just in tonight, another burned out vehicle now discovered. the emergency at the largest airport in the u.s. the toddler jumping onto a baggage belt. the urgent calls for help. the murder of a college student at ole miss. new surveillance tonight
revealing how they tracked the young suspect, 85 miles away. new images tonight, those two tornadoes, an ef-1 slamming cape cod. winds more than 100 miles per hour. and the major wildfires we're watching, one near a nuclear site, already burning more than 110,000 acres. the major recall tonight. a type of breast implants possibly linked to a rare cancer. the tainted alcohol scare. authorities now say 20 deaths. and tonight, the raid in a popular tourist destination. the terrifying scene at yellowstone. the family attacked by a bison. a 9-year-old girl tossed into the air. news on her condition tonight. and breaking news just in from puerto rico. the embattled governor there and what he just revealed. and news coming in right now on north korea tonight. martha raddatz is standing by live here in washington. and good evening from washington tonight, where we are following breaking news on north korea right now.
we're also following robert mueller tonight. he did not want to come to the hill, but special counsel robert mueller did just that today, testifying before the american people. seven hours of questions from two committees about the president, about his campaign, about russia. and in the first minute of questioning, mueller was asked, did you exonerate the president, as the president has repeatedly claimed. how mueller answered that. mueller was also asked, can the president be charged after he leaves office? and mueller defending his team against claims of bias. he was asked, was this a witch hunt, was it a hoax? and the president reacting just moments ago. abc's mary bruce at the hearing room today, and she leads us off. >> reporter: robert mueller walking into a hearing two years in the making. he was a reluctant witness, but democrats forced him to appear. pressing him on whether the president obstructed justice. >> director mueller, the president has repeatedly claimed that your report found there was no obstruction and that it completely and totally exonerated him.
but that is not what your report said, is it? >> correct, that is not what the report said. >> so the report did not conclude that he did not commit obstruction of justice? is that correct? >> that is correct. >> and what about total exoneration? did you actually totally exonerate the president? >> no. >> reporter: but mueller did not reach a conclusion on obstruction, because the justice department's office of legal counsel says a sitting president cannot be indicted. but can he be charged after he leaves office? >> you could charge the president of the united states with obstruction of justice after he left office? >> yes. >> reporter: again and again, democrats went back to the report to highlight the ten incidents of possible obstruction by the president, including when trump allegedly ordered his former white house counsel don mcgahn to fire mueller. when the request was reported in "the new york times," mcgahn said the president told him to deny it. >> the president said, quote, "fake news, folks. fake news. a typical "new york times" fake
story," end quote. correct? >> correct. >> but your investigation actually found substantial evidence that mcgahn was ordered by the president to fire you, correct? >> yes. >> reporter: but did the president obstruct mueller? republicans pointed out, mueller kept his job. >> were you ever fired as special counsel, mr. mueller? >> not that i -- no. >> no. were you allowed to complete your investigation unencumbered? >> yes. >> reporter: republicans argued mueller was out of bounds for offering examples of potential obstruction without drawing a conclusion. >> you wrote 180 pages, 180 pages about decisions that weren't reached, about potential crimes that weren't charged. >> can i speak for a second? >> reporter: mueller offered a passionate defense of his team, as republicans accused them of political bias. >> i've been in this business for almost 25 years, and in those 25 years, i have not had occasion once to ask somebody about their political affiliation. it is not done. what i care about is the capability of the individual to do the job and do the job quickly and seriously and with
integrity. >> well, your investigation is not a witch hunt, is it? >> it is not a witch hunt. >> reporter: still, republicans said today, it's over. >> it's time for the curtain to close on the russia hoax, the conspiracy theory is dead. >> would you agree that it was not a hoax? that the russians were engaged in trying to impact our election? >> absolutely, it was not a hoax. >> reporter: he said the russians are at it again right now. and after six hours, one last question. >> i gather that you believe that knowingly accepting foreign assistance during a presidential campaign is an unethical thing to do. >> and a crime. >> and a crime. >> circumstances, yes. and a crime in given certain circumstances. >> and to the degree that it undermines our democracy and our institutions, we can agree that it's also unpatriotic. >> true. >> and wrong. >> true. >> so, let's get right to mary
bruce, live tonight with me all day up here on the hill. and mary, the bottom line here, was there anything said today that will change anyone's minds here on the hill about whether to move forward with impeachment? here's what house speaker nancy pelosi said just moments ago. >> my position has always been, whatever decision we made in that regard would have to be done with our strongest possible hand. and we still have some outstanding matters in the courts. it's about the congress, the constitution and the courts. and we are fighting the president in the courts. >> so, mary, where do democrats go from here? >> reporter: well, david, don't expect any imminent action here. democratic leaders are making it clear, they're going to stay the course. for now, impeachment is still on the table, but david, the clock is ticking. democrats are going to have to make a decision soon. do they keep up this drum beat to impeach or do they change course and focus instead on beating donald trump at the ballot box in 2020? david? >> mary bruce leading us off tonight. mary, thank you. president trump was watching and tweeting today, and you'll remember that he told our jon
karl during the russia investigation that he would sit down for an interview with robert mueller. so, mueller was asked today why he didn't fight to get that in-person interview. mueller was asked, did you have enough evidence of possible obstruction, is that why you passed? mueller answering, we didn't do it because of the time it would take in the courts. and when pressed today, asked if the president's written answers were inadequate, incomplete and not always truthful, mueller answered, "i would say generally." so, let's get to our chief white house correspondent jonathan karl, because jon, even with all of that, the president and his team appear very confident tonight. here's the president moments ago. >> this was a very big day for our country, this was a very big day for the republican party and you could say it was a great day for me, but i don't even like to say that. robert mueller did a horrible job. both today and with respect to the investigation. but in all fairness to robert mueller, he had nothing to work with. you know, you can be a builder, but if they don't give you the right materials, you're not
going to build a very good building. robert mueller had no material. >> so, jon, bottom line, president trump believes he has survived mueller's testimony just fine. >> reporter: david, he believes he has done more than survive. the phrase i kept hearing all day long from the president's top advisers was that today was an embarrassment for democrats. now, mueller did contradict the president on several key facts, but nothing that he said today changes the calculus on impeachment. democrats had high hopes for robert mueller, but david, after today, it is hard to imagine any scenario where it is robert mueller that brings down donald trump. >> all right, jon karl with us, as well. jon, thank you. one last question on this tonight, let's bring in pierre thomas, our senior justice correspondent. and pierre, robert mueller said today that he believes, in his words, that we have underplayed this russia thing, that they are at it again right now, with 2020 coming. >> reporter: that's right, david. mueller wanted to emphasize just how grave the russian threat remains. here's one quote that struck me.
he said, "it wasn't a single attempt. they're doing it as we sit here. and they expect to do it during the next campaign." david, he took every opportunity to describe what he called the sweeping and systematic attack on the 2016 election by the russians, and he was clear that the russians were in fact trying help then-candidate donald trump and to hurt hillary clinton. but mueller also acknowledged that he did not find conclusive evidence of a conspiracy between the trump campaign or the russians. david? >> all right, our thanks to pierre, mary, jon. our entire team here in washington. our coverage of the mueller hearings for tonight. but we are also following breaking news as we're on the air tonight, coming in out of north korea. two u.s. officials confirming tonight that north korea has now fired at least one short-range projectile, the newest provocation. so, let's get right to martha raddatz with late reporting tonight. martha, what do we know? >> reporter: david, you're correct. u.s. officials are confirming tonight that north korea has fired at least one short-range projectile. the south koreans are saying it was two, which traveled about
260 miles, which is similar to the two that the north launched in may. president trump downplayed the missile launches last may, in fact, on monday, the president boasted that there had been no missile or rocket testing and that his relationship with north korea is very good. but today's launch could further complicate any new talks between kim and trump. david? >> martha raddatz with us live here in washington, as well. martha, thank you. to other news tonight, and the hunt for two young suspects in canada, considered armed and dangerous tonight, linked to the deaths of an american woman and her boyfriend found shot to death, they were on a road trip. the suspects are also wanted in another case, too, and tonight, the newest discovery, another burned-out vehicle. abc's matt gutman from canada tonight. >> reporter: tonight, canadian police hunting those two teenage murder suspects, surging to manitoba, setting up checkpoints outside a remote town after finding their torched car. >> last seen last night, confirmed in gillam, manitoba, and at this point, the search is on again.
>> reporter: is it safe to say you're now closing in on them? >> yeah. >> reporter: the two nearly crossed canada the past two weeks, starting out from western british columbia. police say just three days later, murdering chynna deese and lucas fowler 1,000 miles north. the boys then allegedly torching their camper and murdering another man 300 miles away, before popping up on surveillance in this toyota, another thousand miles away in saskatchewan. and finally overnight, in manitoba. bryer schmegelsky's father speaking to chek-tv when he still thought the two were missing and possible victims, saying they are good boys who like to play war games in the woods. >> both of them are totally into that. if there was any threat, they would have done what they've actually trained themselves to do and they would have camouflaged themselves in the woods. >> reporter: and david, we're told there are now thousands of officers involved in this massive dragnet across most of canada, and police tell us they
want to catch these two teen suspects alive because, pretty much like everyone else, they want to know why they allegedly did this. david? >> matt gutman live in british columbia tonight. matt, thank you. and some very tense moments today at the nation's largest airport, in atlanta, when a 2-year-old climbed onto a moving luggage conveyor belt. his mother could not get to him. abc's steve osunsami is in atlanta. >> reporter: the baggage handlers at the atlanta airport couldn't believe it, seeing this injured child speeding down the conveyor belt. >> the child's hand is really swollen. could you have ems step it up? >> reporter: late this evening, the airport released the surveillance video. you see the child holding onto a bag and trying to crawl away. the call for help came from the massive bag room that sits below the check-in areas. >> there's no parents with him, we don't know what carousel he came down, but he is injured. >> reporter: edith vega says she was checking into a flight when she put her son down and he disappeared. this is the moment he gets behind the ticket counter and jumps on the belt. >> i just went blank. i was like, "hey, my son."
i wanted to jump in and go get him, but they didn't allow me. i was just freaking out and i'm like, "oh my goodness, i hope he's okay." >> reporter: the boy is going to be okay. the airport says the belt was only activated when the child jumped on it and got it moving. david? >> all right, steve, our thanks to you, as well. and next, to new surveillance tonight in the case of a young woman from missouri, a student at ole miss. the autopsy now revealing she was shot to death. and tonight, this photo from one of her social media sites showing her with the suspect under arrest now. a young man from texas. this image three years ago. tonight, how police caught the suspect some 85 miles away. here's marcus moore. >> reporter: tonight, new questions about the young man suspected of murdering his ole miss classmate, ally kostial, seen with her here in a photo posted to kostial's social media. >> gas station, lafayette county. murder investigation. pinging the suspect's phone. male, white, possibly armed. >> reporter: 22-year-old brandon theesfeld was arrested monday morning after he was spotted at this memphis gas station. these images obtained by a local
fox affiliate, capturing the takedown. >> it's murder, and he's being held in our jail without bond. >> reporter: theesfeld is now behind bars after kostial's body was found about 20 miles off-campus near a popular lake. the college senior disappearing friday. tonight, police are not commenting on a motive or any relationship between the two. in a statement to abc affiliate wfaa, theesfeld's father saying, "i've spoken to brandon. i ask that everyone give him the benefit of the doubt that he is innocent." and david, that autopsy report revealing how brutal the murder was. authorities say ally was shot multiple times. david? >> marcus, thank you. we are also following news coming in from puerto rico at this hour. the embattled governor, ricardo rossello, days of protests gland demanding he resign. victor oquendo is outside the governor's mansion right now. victor? >> reporter: david, the entire island in suspense right now waiting to learn if embattled governor ricardo rossello will resign. we're told he is working on a speech and he will address the
people of puerto rico later tonight. this could be the announcement hundreds of thousands have been calling for. they've been protesting for nearly two weeks, ever since a profane group chat between he and his top aides was leaked. they vowed not to stop protesting until the governor resigned. so many of the puerto ricans we've spoken to out here have said the same thing. they're hopeful this is the new opportunity for the future. david? >> victor, thank you. next, we are getting word tonight that severe weather on cape cod included not one but two tornadoes. both were ef-1s. 110-mile-an-hour winds. one ripping off the roof of this motel in south yarmouth. the system rocking these sailboats off the coast of chatham. and tonight, all eyes also on the west. the fire danger growing there. hot weather sparking this brush fire in los angeles. dozens of major fires are burning at this hour. the largest of them in idaho near a nuclear lab tonight. chief meteorologist ginger zee is tracking it all, she's in cleveland tonight. ginger? >> reporter: david, there are at least 40 large wildfires burning from texas to oregon. you can see them right there on the map. and unfortunately, i think that number will go up.
there are excessive heat watches from montana and idaho right down to fresno and sacramento. monsoon storms starting up and this is what you'd think, oh, gosh, there's rain coming, that's good. unfortunately, those can spark lightning and winds that make fires even worse. david? >> ginger, thank you. there is still much more ahead onto "world news tonight" this wednesday. the major recall. the type of breast implants now possibly linked to rare cancer. also ahead, the scare at yellowstone tonight. the family attacked by a charging bison, flipping a 9-year-old girl into the air. news on her condition tonight. the tainted alcohol scare. authorities now say 20 deaths. this evening, the raid in a popular tourist destination. and america strong tonight. the boy, the birthday and the no-show birthday party, until this happened. we needed this tonight. we needed this tonight. is tonight. hopes you drive safely. but allstate actually helps you drive safely... with drivewise. it lets you know when you go too fast... ...and brake too hard. with feedback to help you drive safer.
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clayton sandell on what happened and her condition. >> reporter: a scary reminder tonight that wild animals are exactly that. this 9-year-old florida girl launched violently airborne by a charging bison at yellowstone national park, not far from old faithful geyser. the park service says a large crowd got too close to the animal monday, within just five feet, triggering the attack. the girl was injured, but is now recovering. >> people need to understand this is not disney world. these are not animatronics. these are wild animals. that little girl is very, very lucky. >> oh, god. >> reporter: bison can charge without warning. males can weigh more than a ton. this woman says a selfie back in 2015, not worth the pain of getting gored. >> it was the most frightening experience i have been through in my life. >> reporter: yellowstone officials are warning people to stay at least 25 yards away from bison. they have not yet said whether anyone involved will be getting a citation. david? >> clayton sandell tonight.
clayton, thank you. when we come back here, the alarming recall tonight involving breast implants possibly linked to cancer. and that tainted alcohol scare. the raid tonight at a popular tourist destination. the death toll now, at least 20. , at least 20. i was thinking... could there be another around the corner? or could it turn out differently? i wanted to help protect myself. my doctor recommended eliquis. eliquis is proven to treat and help prevent another dvt or pe blood clot... almost 98 percent of patients on eliquis didn't experience another. ...and eliquis has significantly less major bleeding than the standard treatment. eliquis is fda approved and has both. don't stop eliquis unless your doctor tells you to. eliquis can cause serious and in rare cases fatal bleeding. don't take eliquis if you have an artificial heart valve or abnormal bleeding. if you had a spinal injection while on eliquis call your doctor right away if you have tingling, numbness, or muscle weakness. while taking eliquis, you may bruise more easily... and it may take longer than usual for bleeding to stop. seek immediate medical care for sudden signs of bleeding,
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the implants are blamed for 573 cases of lymphoma around the world, including 33 deaths. the fda says women without symptoms do not need to have them removed. but that doctors and hospitals should stop offering them to patients. we do have more on our website tonight. the tainted alcohol scare in costa rica. the death toll rising tonight. at least 20 people have now died from drinking alcohol contaminated with methanol. the government seizing tens of thousands of possibly tainted bottles, warning residents tonight to avoid several brands of liquor. the u.s. state department saying this evening no known americans have been affected so far. and move over michael phelps tonight. there's a new kid in town. 19-year-old kristof milak of hungary today breaking the world record in the 200-meter butterfly. finishing in just under 1:51 at the world championships in south korea. that's nearly .8 ahead of phelps' world record. when we come back here tonight, america strong. the mom who invited her son's whole class to his birthday party -- but just one little girl said yes. but wait for this.
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and finally tonight here, america strong. the mother, her little boy and the birthday party no one was coming to, until this. christian larsen is from meridian, idaho. and he's turning 9. >> today's my birthday. >> is it your birthday? >> yes, it's my birthday. >> reporter: his mom, lindsay, planning the birthday party for her son, who is autistic. christian wanted to have a science-themed birthday. complete with "microchips," they're potato chips. and a beaker birthday cake. christian handed out invitations to his entire class, 25 kids. but only one little girl said yes. his mom, brokenhearted, posted about it online, and a friend had an idea. and with mom recording it all, you could hear them coming. the nampa high school football
team, all teenagers, chanting christian's name. >> christian! christian! christian! >> reporter: it turns out their coach organizing the whole thing. surprising christian, who couldn't believe it, falling right into the grass. and then this moment, going down the line. one by one, getting high fives from the team determined to make sure someone showed up for christian's birthday. and one more surprise -- a gift bag from the team. inside, a team shirt and a football. >> what is that? >> whoa! >> now we can play a real game with a real ball. >> yeah! >> reporter: tonight, christian's family is grateful. and little christian saying this was the best birthday ever. happy birthday, christian. we celebrate you and your mom tonight and, of course, that football team for doing the right thing. i'm david muir. i hope to see you back from new york tomorrow night. until then, have a good evening. good night.
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it all series 100 german must reads stefan's far beware of pity as a hero who was always getting things rollers suffering it is not a case of real simple tatoos have never been so popular they've been around for thousands of years but 1st became fashionable in the 1960 s. with the hippie movement and the biking culture background it was a sign of individuality and since then to do so tattoos have never looked back today it's a thriving industry and we were europe's biggest to 2 convention here in berlin over the weekend and the superstars of to touring with to show off their skills. the annual convention sees hundreds of tattoo artists tattoo enthusiastic and the curious converging on the german capital to tattoo artists some of the best in the world modern day jet setters whose reputation precedes them thanks in part to
instagram. a large following means worldwide recognition sponsorships and global gigs. tattoo artist raffle looks from brazil started working on skin at just 13 he has high hopes for the future. so i use my name as a rock i'm a touch to artist and a surfer and i have 110000 followers and i want to be famous across the whole world in the theater. and he may well get there he's striking designs typically involve intricate geometric patterns flawless symmetry cymbals and a lot of nature subtable instagram following means rafa has work waiting for him wherever he goes. for the big players celebrity brings free. minix tasha king is a rising star from turkey her work is truly unique vivid hyper realistic playful images that have been assisting with life she and her crew a committed to designing. people's dreams and applying them to their bodies she has
101000 followers on instagram. i am a lake i'm surprised this is really i can't really say much more the turkish woman was under pressure to get a 3 day tattoo done in just one and a half days the client had travelled all the way from austria. lynn prefers his advertisements in the flesh with his travelling troupe of models. with just 23000 followers big lin has a bit of catching up to do but he did win big at this year's convention garnering a lot of attention from the taiwanese artist loves working on big pieces in traditional japanese style. where she rises is one of it's great because every character has his own and their original story his own history is part of a very meaningful tradition.
bound with their tattoo guns these traveling artists really can go anywhere. my colleague melissa holroyd was super vention so maybe you now now but they say now in some countries like the us and it's a very almost 50 percent of the population have a 2 wire too so popular now well for one thing they're no longer has to do is they used to be people with tests and the longest seen as a threat to society also with globalization we can cherry pick from different cultures so we chinese food we wear concho zz and through that the meaning of these things has changed ok that's the popularity big question now why you different people have tried to use this lots of different reasons some people have them as.
to to draw a line from the past into the future as part of a healing process some people do it as a promise to the future some people do it to be part of a group or to be not part of a group it can be a secret message to self. today they're very popular among people who are part of the gig economy among entrepreneurs as a sort of a sign of independence and presumably people also have it just for fun. yes or to just say that i actually love something there was one guy that we met at the convention he had a tattoo on his leg which said folks fagen he also comes he is focused on his leg. and he said he did that because very simple reason like buses this is his 3 children there on his tummy and there's more dedications to his children there and he also plans to get
his nieces and nephews down on his body ok some people have them on their faces a lot of. we also saw plenty of people with tattoos on their faces this guy has even had his eyeballs test suit and he said had stuff done to his face other the sieges. well there's no turning back it's a very very definite statement isn't it yeah also these people that we met with these you know face tattoos they look very very hot but actually when you meet them they were really the sweetest people you could meet that was very agreeable though very nice people ok you with did it change your attitude to tatoos are you thinking of having a while but this well yes i would definitely get a tattoo i mean i would have and now i definitely would i mean i think one thing that i really liked about it was is a lot of body positivity in the 2 culture you know ok if you go off
a big body poses an. interesting subject that when i left love the 30 years ago the district of clark well was a rubber. dust from an area where real frying big business was jewelry making in hatton garden that that remains to this day but the rest of the area has compete. you changed to move in because of low rent they made it trendy a mouse hole in the coolest places to be in love. park and well is an area in central london with a checkered history now it's a favorite haunt of architects designers harvests and other creative spirits. just a few blocks from the financial district the attractive neighborhood appeals to residents and visitors alike. meghan burrows has been head of marketing for a p.r.
agency in cochrane well for 5 years. has this beautiful design aspect to it we've got something stupid like the most amount of. that than anyone. and so it really is the districts that you sort of everyone's very design and aesthetic focused and it's got a really great to do with. the designers create spaces where the artists and architects can work in comfort such as here in born in hollingsworth buildings. architects have been concentrating in this area since the mid 1990 s. creative professionals have opened offices in old breweries book printers and gym distilleries the one scrambling industrial area has been revived as a trendy office and residential neighborhood. in the studio a grand west architectural firm has been here since 2004 and now they're feeling
the effects of the very gentrification they helped foster. i think you have to follow you have to follow the the move of the city you know the. thing you want is a city that remains static you know i mean you want to stay in the same place for the next 100 years no. got its start in the middle ages with a priory outside the london city walls a reminder of the monastic tradition in st john. workshops and factories collected here. british watch making other trades. regularly guides visitors through showing them relics of past era such as the watchmaker and workshops. you can see there. when. you get the most.
an average wage isn't likely to afford living in these days but architecture fans can be sure to find much to discover here. creative professionals. to their taste. a place to find truly eccentric british. town house. and creative people who make a neighborhood come to life whether living working here or just passing through. now in our continuing series 100 must reads with featuring books that have been translated into english from the original today. to achieve.
but mainly as a journalist as a lyricist for. his novellas the long this novel he wrote was. pitchy which was an inspiration for. the film the grand budapest hotel mall from david levitz. had a great time to. definitely do with. my calender. the truth hurts that's why people lie. no one likes rejection but having someone string you along hurts even worse don't believe me read be aware of pity by step on spike we're at a palace in the austria-hungary an empire before world war one the main character on town is invited to a party here he dines and drinks and dances has a great time but at the end of the evening he realizes he's forgotten to ask the
host's daughter eat it to dance so he asks or even bigger for she can't dance she's paralyzed long story short he feels so bad that he offers to marry her not because he loves her but because he wants to look like a nice guy the young woman's doctor gives him quite a lecture. yes that's all very well but there are 2 kinds of pity one the weak minded sentimental sort is really just the heart's impatience to rid itself as quickly as possible of the painful experience of being moved by another person suffering it is not a case of real sympathy of feeling with the sufferer but a way of defending yourself against the sufferers. but the 2nd kind of pity real pity requires self-sacrifice and clearly and so on isn't up for that his fiance aged finds out he's denied their engagement in public she's humiliated and the story ends in tragedy jewish austrian author stefan spike was one of the world's
most popular writers in the 1920 s. and thirty's he and his wife escaped the nazis 1st to england then to brazil but they were so convinced that european civilization was doomed that the couple took their own lives in 1900 to. be aware of pity a few years before his death it's the only full length novel by a fantastic author who checked out too soon. full of all these tall. it sold all websites at v.w. dot com slash culshaw about soul for today thanks for watching on bubba.
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tonight, thousands pay tribute as george floyd comes home to houston. joe biden among them. also tonight, the new video just released from new mexico. a knee to the neck and tonight, charges of manslaughter. here in houston, many walking in the stifling heat to line up for hours, then filing past george floyd's casket. mourners wearing masks. george floyd was killed two weeks ago today, an officer with his knee on floyd's neck for 8 minutes, 46 seconds. former vice president joe biden came to houston today. the image of him with george floyd's little girl. paying his respects to the floyd family. and the family speaking just moments ago. also tonight, the former officer now charged with second degree murder, derek chauvin, wearing an orange jumpsuit for his first court appearance today. prosecutors saying he kept his
knee on floyd's neck while he went limp and eventually lifeless. and the breaking headline as we come on the air tonight. the new video from new mexico now. the officer with his knee on the neck of a man detained after a traffic stop. that officer tonight now charged with manslaughter. what we've just learned. the minneapolis city council voting to dismantle the police department. the mayor there shouted down for refusing to support calls to defund the police. growing calls from demonstrators across the country to do the same. joe biden tonight saying he does not support that idea, nor does president trump, who called members of law enforcement to the white house today. the disturbing case in virginia tonight. the charges. the alleged member of the kkk who drove right into a protest. and in seattle, the man who drove into demonstrators there and then allegedly shot someone as he got out of the car. on capitol hill tonight, democratic members of congress taking a knee for 8 minutes and 46 seconds. tonight, what they have now unveiled to try to reform policing.
there are also major developments tonight in the coronavirus pandemic. new york city beginning to reopen. but at least 20 states tonight are now seeing increases in cases. and this evening, what researchers have discovered about china and the virus. tonight, right here, you will see the satellite images. do they suggest the virus was spreading far earlier than first thought? and the symptoms people in china were searching for online that matched the virus. those searches as early as october. and good evening tonight from houston, as we begin another week together. and as a community says good-bye to a native son. george floyd, who has become the face of a movement for justice and change in this country. tonight here, we talk with so many parents who brought children, to nurses who are also working in the middle of this pandemic. and still, they thought it was important they come here today.
and tonight, as we come on, the new case, the new video released just a short time ago, a knee to the neck and now an officer charged with manslaughter. george floyd's casket escorted y mourrs file, socially distancing. among them, texas governor greg abbott, houston's mayor sylvester turner, the police chief and members of the force and many, many families, parents with small children. diverse ages, diverse backgrounds, waiting outside in the searing heat, well into the 90s here. and former vice president joe biden here in houston to pay his respects, too. the image of him with george floyd's little girl. all of this amid new developments as we come on the air. in minneapolis, former police officer derek chauvin appearing before a judge to face murder charges. and now that new case i mentioned from new mexico, an officer with his knee to a man's neck. tonight, that officer has now been charged in his death. abc's alex perez leads us off from minneapolis. >> reporter: tonight, fired minneapolis police officer
derek chauvin facing murder charges, making his first appearance in court, via video, in an orange jumpsuit and blue face mask. the prosecutor laying out the second degree murder case against chauvin, saying he placed his knee on floyd's neck for nearly nine minutes as he "went limp." the judge setting bail at $1.25 million. the three other officers, tou thao, j. alexander keung and thomas lane, all charged with aiding and abetting chauvin. tonight, lane's lawyer placing the blame on chauvin, the veteran officer, saying lane had only been on the job four days. was he afraid of chauvin? your client? >> he relied on his 20-year he thought that this man knew what he was doing. my client had -- did exactly what he was supposed to do, follow the experienced officer's advice. >> get on the ground! >> reporter: across the country, more officers accused of
excessive force facing charges. in new mexico today, a white police officer charged with involuntary manslaughter, after putting his knee on the neck of a hispanic man back in february. prosecutors say it led to his death. in fairfax, virginia -- >> no! >> reporter: -- a white officer arrested for assault after body camera video showed him using a stun gun on an unarmed black man, putting his knees on the man's back. the man yelling, "i can't breathe." all the officers involved placed on administrative leave. now, growing calls to defund or outright abolish police departments. defunding meaning diverting some funds from police to other social programs. the controversial issue coming to a boiling point in minneapolis. the city's mayor confronted by protesters at the site of floyd's killing. >> i know there needs to be deep-seeded structural reform in terms of how the department operates. the systemic and racist system needs to be revamped.
>> reporter: but the crowd pressing him for more answers. >> we don't want no more police. is that clear? we don't want people with guns toting around in our community, shooting us down. it is a yes or a no. will you defund the minneapolis police department? >> i do not support the full abolition of police. >> reporter: the minneapolis city council announcing it intends to dismantle the police department, calling it beyond reform. just moments ago, the mayor announcing a new coalition to provide more economic inclusion for people of color to help the city move forward. >> george floyd moved to minneapolis for a fresh start. in honoring his memory and generations of black people who have been victimized before him, we will rebuild as a stronger, more equitable and more inclusive city. >> reporter: other cities also
announcing plans to partially defund the police. new york city shifting nypd funds to youth programs. l.a. cutting $150 million from its police budget. >> and alex perez joins us again tonight from min yap lus. and alex, we know all four officers charged in floyd's death remain behind bars tonight? >> reporter: yeah, david, they're all in custody. chauvin faces up to 75 years behind bars. and those three other officers could face up to 50 years in prison. david? >> alex perez leading us off on a monday night. alex, thank you. meantime, here in houston, the stirring images of so many people coming here to honor george floyd. one mother driving seven hours from oklahoma city with her children. people seen walking in the heat toward the church and arriving by the bus load. among those paying their respects, as we mentioned earlier, former vice president joe biden, who met for more than an hour with floyd's family. abc's marcus moore with us right here at the church tonight.
>> reporter: two weeks after his death at the hands of police, an emotional farewell for george floyd in his hometown of houston. mourners lining up early this morning to pay their respects, braving extreme texas heat. but so many telling us they needed to be here. >> this man whose death has changed the world -- he's changed the world. you have to come. you know, you have to. i can't explain it. >> reporter: inside the church, social distancing, just 15 people at a time in masks and gloves. for hours, thousands of people of all ages and backgrounds streaming past floyd's open casket. many here were strangers to floyd and those next to them in this line, but today, people like quinn richardson and don murray are connected in their grief and hope for progress. >> but when we see people like mr. don here who said he had to be here, too, it makes me proud to say something we're doing, making a lot of noise, we're showing up and people like him are coming out. >> reporter: murray remembers arguing with his father about racism back in the 1950s.
all of these decades later, an image of barriers broken.weti'rd than what you saw when you were younger? >> oh, yeah. i mean, this you never would have seen when i was younger. never. >> reporter: the governor of texas vowing to work for change with the floyd family. >> this is the most horrific tragedy i've ever personally observed. but george floyd is going to change the arc of the future of the united states. george floyd has not died in vain. >> reporter: vice president joe biden today meeting privately for more than an hour with floyd's family, seen here with his daughter gianna. a family attorney tweeting, "he listened, heard their pain and shared in their woe. that compassion meant the world to this grieving family." george floyd's family grateful for the outpouring of support tonight and proud of the man he was. >> we all hurting as a family
and -- you know, the george we know, he's a family man, great man. he stands for the definition of a man, because we didn't have no father figure growing up. >> reporter: in his old hbho, stimby the strokes of an artist's brush, symbolizing floyd's impact on the world and one of houston's sons, who is finally home. david, today, we saw relatives of eric garner, ahmaud arbery and michael brown, among others. a real show of solidarity, as floyd's family gets ready for another emotional day. tomorrow, they will have a private funeral and floyd will be buried next to his mother. david? >> marcus moore with us here in houston tonight. marcus, thank you. and as you heard from marcus there, we will be carrying the funeral live tomorrow right here on abc. i'll be anchoring with our team here around noon eastern, as george floyd's hometown honors him and this movement for change. but we continue with the news this monday night, and in washington tonight, lawmakers know the pressure to act is growing.
democratic members of congress taking a knee for 8 minutes and 46 seconds today before unveiling legislation to reform policing. and the fence put up outside the white house after peaceful protesters were moved out of the way last week for that photo-op, that wall has instead now become a tribute to george floyd and calls for racial justice in the u.s. inside the white house, president trump opposing efforts to defund, dismantle or disband the police. joe biden today opposing defunding the police, as well. here's our chief white house correspondent jonathan karl. >> reporter: sensing a political opportunity in the growing protests around the country, the prced onctist efund the police. >> there won't be there won't be dismantling of our police. there's not going to be any disbanding of our police. our police have been letting us live in peace. >> reporter: the president also said he's considering ideas for police reform, but he didn't mention specifics. >> we're going to work and we're
going to talk about ideas, how we can do it better and how we can do it, if possible, in a much more gentle fashion. >> reporter: his attorney general today acknowledged african-american distrust of the criminal justice system, but 24 hours ago, bill barr said he does not think there is systemic racism. >> i think there's racism in the united states still, but i don't think that the law enforcement system is systemically racist. >> reporter: joe biden has expressed solidarity with the protesters, but today, his campaign made it clear he does not support calls for defunding, either. "vice president biden does not believe that police should be defunded," the campaign said in a written statement. house democrats unveiled their own reform plan today, calling for, among other things, a ban on chokeholds, a national registry of police misconduct and limiting immunity protections for police officers. one thing not in the democratic proposal? anything to do with defunding the police. >> funding of police is a local
matter, as you know. from the standpoint of our legislation, we're not going to that place. >> reporter: republican leaders have said they, too, support reforms, but they have not signed onto this bill. senator mitt romney made a show of support for the protests over the weekend. >> we need to stand up and say that black lives matter. >> so, let's get to jon at the white house. and jon, of course, this all comes as a series of new polls show joe biden with a growing lead over president trump. you have sources there at the white house, obviously, they're well aware of these numbers. >> reporter: oh, they sure are. the president himself says the polls are skewed, designed to dampen the enthusiasm of his supporters. and the campaign, the trump a cof weeks, and they are wi run predicting large crowds despite the continued covid-19 threat, david. >> jon karl starting another week at the white house for us. jon, thank you. there are also major developments in the coronavirus pandemic tonight. a triumphant moment in new york city today, 100 days after the first case of the coronavirus.
as many as 400,000 people returning to work in new york, to construction, manufacturing and limited retail jobs, getting free face masks sanitizer at the subway entrances. governor cuomo seen taking the train to his office, to grand central. but cases are rising in nearly half of the country tonight, even before possible cases among protesters. and tonight, an investigation now revealing that the virus may have struck china months before they let on. tonight, right here, you will see the satellite images and you will also see what the people of china were searching for online as early as october. here's tom llamas. >> reporter: tonight, signs the threat from the coronavirus is not over. cases on the rise in 20 states. 1,500 new cases, a record, reported in arizona on friday, two weeks after reopening. texas open for more than a month, seeing a steep increase in new patient admissions. now, nearly 2,000 hospitalized. deaths in this country
surpassing 110,000. "kaiser health news" and "the guardian" reporting nearly 600 of the victims were u.s. health care workers. and now, new evidence the virus may have been sweeping through wuhan nearly three months before chinese health officials told the world. these satellite photos show various wuhan hospitals from october. those red dots, cars packing the parking lots. this is hubei women and children hospital in october 2018. 393 cars. a year later? 714. satellite photos, mirror images. october 2018, october 2019 and you see the number of cars skyrocket. >> so, much greater and greater than any other sort of time period that we had looked at. >> reporter: at tongji medical center, 112 cars in 2018, compared to 214 a year later. a 90% increase. >> more cars to a hospital, the hospital's busier. likely because maybe something's
happening in the community, an infection is growing and people have to see a doctor. >> reporter: researchers say they can't prove this increased activity is due to covid-19, but they also found internet searches in wuhan for the terms "diarrhea" and "cough" spiking in october. two symptoms of the coronavirus. abc spoke with multiple infectious disease experts who told us there is almost always a delay in identifying and then reporting an outbreak. china has adamantly maintained they reported the outbreak in a timely fashion. and tonight, new, important guidance from the w.h.o. they're now saying it is rare for asymptomatic patients carrying covid-19 to spread the deadly disease. they say the focus should be on people showing symptoms, to quarantine them and isolate their contacts. david? >> tom llamas with us live in new york tonight. tom, thank you. and when we come back on a monday night, a hate crime investigation now under way involving the virginia kkk tonight and a pickup right into a crowd. and another vehicle right into a
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your work today to come here. >> yes, sir. >> why was that so important to you? >> it is important to me, because in my career, i'm all for life. and his death is a senseless death. >> she is here as a mother, too. >> for somebody to know when somebody is telling you, "i can't breathe," for you to give that person a chance to breathe. when i heard a grown man calling his mom, i have children, too. i cried. so bad. >> a student, jonathan vazquez. you felt it was important to come here. >> yes, sir. very important. >> he made a stop on the way. i see that you have brought flowers with you. >> yes, sir, nine. nine roses. to dedicate, i guess, the amount of minutes that he couldn't breathe. yeah, just -- really tough time that we're going through and i'm glad i'm able to pay my respects.
>> we saw so many mothers here. aisha and her two boys. >> i love my kids, i want the world to love my kids, i want them to have opportunities. and so, i just want things to change. i think that what's happened is really -- words can't fathom what has happened to george. as a mother, when he called out, my heart broke. and it has to stop. it can't go no further. no justice, no peace. >> and how do you protect your sons? >> i am -- i keep telling them about the great legacy that they come from, i encourage them to work hard, i encourage them to do all the right things and most importantly, i pray over my children. >> so many paying tribute, hoping for change. build a better bay area for a safe and secure future. this is "abc7 news."
>> people on the street in protest. this image is just one of many we're seeing in places around the bay area across the nation, and around the world. calling for change. good evening, and thank you for joining us. i'm ama daetz. >> and i'm larry beil. tomorrow, george floyd will be laid to rest, but his death has sparked a movement that's really taken on a life of its own. at his public viewing in houston today, the line of mourners stretched out the door, including the governor of texas who stopped by. bail for former police officer derek chauvin, the officer who had his knee on floyd's neck was set today at $1.25 million. he faces second degree murder and second degree aggravated assault charges. the majority of the minneapolis city council supports a plan to disband the police department. the mayor says he does not support that idea. in the bay area, the mayor of hour biggest city has rejected the idea of defunding san jose's police department.